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American To Cut Jobs, Reduce Flights, Add Fees

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http://www.nbc5i.com/trav...=mainclick

FORT WORTH, Texas -- American Airlines said Wednesday it will cut back on domestic flights, lay off workers and add assorted passenger fees as it grapples with record-high fuel prices.

American said it would begin charging a $15 fee for the first checked bag beginning June 15 and would raise other fees for services ranging from reservation services to oversized bags.

The nation's largest carrier said at its shareholders meeting that it would cut domestic flight capacity by 11 to 12 percent in the fourth quarter. American had previously expected fourth-quarter capacity to fall 4.6 percent from the same period in 2007.

Fort Worth-based parent AMR Corporation said reduced flying will lead to job cuts at both American and its American Eagle subsidiary.

AMR expects to retire 45 to 50 planes from its fleet, most of them gas-guzzling MD-80 aircraft. Those were the planes grounded for faulty wiring last month.

American said rising oil prices have increased its expected annual fuel costs by nearly $3 billion since the start of the year.

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Reply #1 posted 05/21/08 8:31am

Anxiety

great. yet another reason not to travel. mad
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Reply #2 posted 05/21/08 8:39am

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More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug
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Reply #3 posted 05/21/08 8:42am

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More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug


and it's taken them HOW many years to realize this? lol
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Reply #4 posted 05/21/08 8:46am

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Anxiety said:

Genesia said:

More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug


and it's taken them HOW many years to realize this? lol


Oh, they knew it before, certainly. It's just reached critical mass (no pun intended) with fuel prices what they are now.
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Reply #5 posted 05/21/08 8:48am

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Genesia said:

Anxiety said:



and it's taken them HOW many years to realize this? lol


Oh, they knew it before, certainly. It's just reached critical mass (no pun intended) with fuel prices what they are now.


ya know what? a flight from MPLS to chicago that used to cost me $100 and some change now costs me almost $500. they can figure out what to do with my bags. lol
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Reply #6 posted 05/21/08 8:57am

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Genesia said:

More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug

Yeah, but they're gonna start charging for the FIRST checked bag. They just started charging for the SECOND bag a few months ago. So even if you only have one bag, which they expect and factor into the weight on the flight, it's gonna cost you extra. That's a new twist. confused If I buy a plane ticket, I'd expect that bringing one piece of luggage to be included in the cost. Well, no more. . .
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Reply #7 posted 05/21/08 8:58am

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I was just checking flights from Amsterdam to Mpls. today so I can come back again in August, and right now they're all $1,700 and higher. neutral


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Reply #8 posted 05/21/08 8:59am

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SCNDLS said:

Genesia said:

More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug

Yeah, but they're gonna start charging for the FIRST checked bag. They just started charging for the SECOND bag a few months ago. So even if you only have one bag, which they expect and factor into the weight on the flight, it's gonna cost you extra. That's a new twist. confused If I buy a plane ticket, I'd expect that bringing one piece of luggage to be included in the cost. Well, no more. . .


You can still take one bag for nothing - as long as it's small enough to carry on.
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Reply #9 posted 05/21/08 9:04am

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Genesia said:

SCNDLS said:


Yeah, but they're gonna start charging for the FIRST checked bag. They just started charging for the SECOND bag a few months ago. So even if you only have one bag, which they expect and factor into the weight on the flight, it's gonna cost you extra. That's a new twist. confused If I buy a plane ticket, I'd expect that bringing one piece of luggage to be included in the cost. Well, no more. . .


You can still take one bag for nothing - as long as it's small enough to carry on.


They make some great carry-on bags now that can really fit a lot. I never check a bag if I can at all avoid it, and it's pretty easy to avoid.
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Reply #10 posted 05/21/08 9:04am

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Genesia said:

SCNDLS said:


Yeah, but they're gonna start charging for the FIRST checked bag. They just started charging for the SECOND bag a few months ago. So even if you only have one bag, which they expect and factor into the weight on the flight, it's gonna cost you extra. That's a new twist. confused If I buy a plane ticket, I'd expect that bringing one piece of luggage to be included in the cost. Well, no more. . .


You can still take one bag for nothing - as long as it's small enough to carry on.

I guess I don't count a carry on as luggage because if I'm going somewhere for a few days I need at least a small suitcase and a carry on. But for weight purposes the airlines view carry on and checked luggage differently. From what I was told by an AA employee when I flew to NYC last month, they include one checked bag per passenger when calculating weight on a plane.
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Reply #11 posted 05/21/08 9:07am

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Twiki said:

Genesia said:



You can still take one bag for nothing - as long as it's small enough to carry on.


They make some great carry-on bags now that can really fit a lot. I never check a bag if I can at all avoid it, and it's pretty easy to avoid.


Yeah, but you can't carry it on if it doesn't fit into the airlines guidelines and they've made the size thing smaller in recent years to reduce the size of a carry on.
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Reply #12 posted 05/21/08 9:11am

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Actually, you can take two bags aboard. I've flown before with a roll-aboard suitcase and a laptop/briefcase. I had a purse, too - but had to put it in the roll-aboard when I went through security. I just took it out again afterward.

It's do-able. You just have to pack light. shrug

The real problem is that more people are going to do it this way...and there won't be room in the overheads for all their bags. The airlines are going to have to have a plan for people who packed light enough not to check a bag...but who are suddenly forced to check it.

My advice is to choose a seat in the back part of the plane. Those seats board first, so there's a better chance of there being a spot for your bag.
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Reply #13 posted 05/21/08 9:14am

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SCNDLS said:

Yeah, but you can't carry it on if it doesn't fit into the airlines guidelines and they've made the size thing smaller in recent years to reduce the size of a carry on.


I was talking about bags that do fit. Also, there's a big difference between what men need to travel and what women need. The new rule is probably a lot more unfair to women than it is to men. I'm flying tomorrow and not coming back until Tuesday and I have no doubts that I'll be able to fit the T-shirts I need into a carry-on.
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Reply #14 posted 05/21/08 9:16am

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Genesia said:

More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug


OK... Marry me.
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Reply #15 posted 05/21/08 9:20am

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Giovanni777 said:

Genesia said:

More luggage means more weight means more fuel. shrug


OK... Marry me.


The fact that I know this does not mean I always pack light. lol

<--- once travelled to London with a suitcase filled with nothing but shoes redface
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Twiki said:

SCNDLS said:

Yeah, but you can't carry it on if it doesn't fit into the airlines guidelines and they've made the size thing smaller in recent years to reduce the size of a carry on.


I was talking about bags that do fit. Also, there's a big difference between what men need to travel and what women need. The new rule is probably a lot more unfair to women than it is to men. I'm flying tomorrow and not coming back until Tuesday and I have no doubts that I'll be able to fit the T-shirts I need into a carry-on.


Exactly! I can't fit all my toiletries into a 1 qt bag to bring on the plane and I recently spent only 3 days in New York, bringing my smallest suitcase and I ended up having to buy a bag there to bring my shopping purchases home in.
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Reply #17 posted 05/21/08 9:25am

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Twiki said:

SCNDLS said:

Yeah, but you can't carry it on if it doesn't fit into the airlines guidelines and they've made the size thing smaller in recent years to reduce the size of a carry on.


I was talking about bags that do fit. Also, there's a big difference between what men need to travel and what women need. The new rule is probably a lot more unfair to women than it is to men. I'm flying tomorrow and not coming back until Tuesday and I have no doubts that I'll be able to fit the T-shirts I need into a carry-on.

nod Yes, big difference between what men and women need for a trip. I could NEVER get what I need for a 3 day trip in one carry on. disbelief When I went to NYC I had a small suitcase no carry on. I've tried to carry that on and although it fits fine in the overhead compartment it doesn't fit in the airlines' size thingy so they make me check it. I don't think I overpack but I'd need 2 outfits for each day, at least 3 pairs of shoes, makeup, toiletries, etc. Oh plus there's the fact that most toiletries, hair products, colognes are more than 4 oz which you can't carry on. That's another reason I have to check luggage.
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Reply #18 posted 05/21/08 9:27am

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CarrieMpls said:

Twiki said:



I was talking about bags that do fit. Also, there's a big difference between what men need to travel and what women need. The new rule is probably a lot more unfair to women than it is to men. I'm flying tomorrow and not coming back until Tuesday and I have no doubts that I'll be able to fit the T-shirts I need into a carry-on.


Exactly! I can't fit all my toiletries into a 1 qt bag to bring on the plane and I recently spent only 3 days in New York, bringing my smallest suitcase and I ended up having to buy a bag there to bring my shopping purchases home in.


I always have stuff I buy shipped to me. That way, I don't pay sales tax. And the shipping's usually cheaper than the tax.
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Reply #19 posted 05/21/08 9:29am

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Genesia said:

Giovanni777 said:



OK... Marry me.


The fact that I know this does not mean I always pack light. lol

<--- once travelled to London with a suitcase filled with nothing but shoes redface

I did this too when I went to see Prince last year. I paid $50 each way because one of my suitcases was overweight. Also, although I was allowed to carry on my laptop in case, purse AND a piece of luggage going to London, coming back the airport had different rules and allowed only ONE item, period. So I had to check ONE bag unexpectedly and put my purse in my laptop case and hold my laptop. disbelief
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Reply #20 posted 05/21/08 10:59am

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Yeah this is my airline too!! Well it will be a scramble now to get on first after first class and members of their flying group. Iwill be pushing old women down to make sure my bag get on!! Just flew to San Antonio from Minneapolis on them just last week!!
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Reply #21 posted 05/21/08 4:12pm

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United Airlines sux mad

They either delay and delay, cancel flight, mechanical problem or cannot seem to find a crew to fly the damned plane which leads to delays or cancellations.

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Reply #22 posted 05/21/08 4:31pm

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SCNDLS said:

Twiki said:



I was talking about bags that do fit. Also, there's a big difference between what men need to travel and what women need. The new rule is probably a lot more unfair to women than it is to men. I'm flying tomorrow and not coming back until Tuesday and I have no doubts that I'll be able to fit the T-shirts I need into a carry-on.

nod Yes, big difference between what men and women need for a trip. I could NEVER get what I need for a 3 day trip in one carry on. disbelief When I went to NYC I had a small suitcase no carry on. I've tried to carry that on and although it fits fine in the overhead compartment it doesn't fit in the airlines' size thingy so they make me check it. I don't think I overpack but I'd need 2 outfits for each day, at least 3 pairs of shoes, makeup, toiletries, etc. Oh plus there's the fact that most toiletries, hair products, colognes are more than 4 oz which you can't carry on. That's another reason I have to check luggage.


i did 11 days in london with a carry-on and a large purse. shrug it's doable. you just have to learn to fold creatively, and not pack bulky lol not all of your makeup has to go in the quart-sized bags, just the liquids.
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Reply #23 posted 05/21/08 7:26pm

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evenstar3 said:

SCNDLS said:


nod Yes, big difference between what men and women need for a trip. I could NEVER get what I need for a 3 day trip in one carry on. disbelief When I went to NYC I had a small suitcase no carry on. I've tried to carry that on and although it fits fine in the overhead compartment it doesn't fit in the airlines' size thingy so they make me check it. I don't think I overpack but I'd need 2 outfits for each day, at least 3 pairs of shoes, makeup, toiletries, etc. Oh plus there's the fact that most toiletries, hair products, colognes are more than 4 oz which you can't carry on. That's another reason I have to check luggage.


i did 11 days in london with a carry-on and a large purse. shrug it's doable. you just have to learn to fold creatively, and not pack bulky lol not all of your makeup has to go in the quart-sized bags, just the liquids.

Girlllll, well, everybody ain't able. lol I need clothing and shoe options when I travel cuz I'm usually going to clubs or nice restaurants and I'm not wearing the same thing every day. So even though I don't pack EVERYTHING I still need two clothing changes a day.
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Reply #24 posted 05/22/08 3:49am

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Oil consumption per capita (darker colors go to Hell).
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Reply #25 posted 05/22/08 4:14am

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I know people that work for American Airlines, I feel sorry that they may lose their jobs.
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