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Thread started 05/21/08 1:34pm

RodeoSchro

Bill Parcells is an absolute putz and I am sick of him

I've never respected him AT ALL. Yes, he won a couple Super Bowls - yay for him. But he's never been anything more than a bully. I am not surprised he and Bob Knight are buddies.

What's got me ticked off is his treatment of Jason Taylor. He has basically cut ties with the Dolphin's only Pro Bowl player because Taylor missed VOLUNTARY mini-camps to be on "Dancing with the Stars".

Yeah, I know the term "voluntary" doesn't really mean voluntary, but we're talking about a Pro Bowl player with 11 years' experience who, by the way, was the NFL's Man of the Year last year. Taylor has not violated any part of his contract, nor has he missed anything he's contractually obligated to attend.

I don't particularly dislike the Fins, but Bill Parcells can go suck it as far as I'm concerned.
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Reply #1 posted 05/21/08 2:18pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Yeah, I know the term "voluntary" doesn't really mean voluntary.....


Well, that's it right there. The Tuna doesn't play when it comes to this - dude is strictly old skool. But don't most NFL coaches feel this way about 'voluntary' workouts?

As far as i know, the only player who Parcells cut any slack was LT, but he was a legendary HOFamer who changed the game.
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Reply #2 posted 05/21/08 2:32pm

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I've never respected him AT ALL. Yes, he won a couple Super Bowls - yay for him. But he's never been anything more than a bully. I am not surprised he and Bob Knight are buddies.

What's got me ticked off is his treatment of Jason Taylor. He has basically cut ties with the Dolphin's only Pro Bowl player because Taylor missed VOLUNTARY mini-camps to be on "Dancing with the Stars".

Yeah, I know the term "voluntary" doesn't really mean voluntary, but we're talking about a Pro Bowl player with 11 years' experience who, by the way, was the NFL's Man of the Year last year. Taylor has not violated any part of his contract, nor has he missed anything he's contractually obligated to attend.

I don't particularly dislike the Fins, but Bill Parcells can go suck it as far as I'm concerned.


But if you are a Dolphins fan, you won't be sick of him when he builds a winner there in Miami.
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Reply #3 posted 05/22/08 6:27am

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Can't STAND him. brick The fact that he wouldn't call Terrell Owens by his name when he hadn't done anything wrong shows how assinine, disrespectful, and juvenile his mind games are. He's a prick and I KNOW all of the Cowboys HATED playing for his triflin' ass. I'm glad he's not coaching. And I think his team-building reputation is completely overblown. Yeah, he built the Cowboys but before their damn good 13-3 season last year, they were 9-7 for the last TWO years under Parcells. He's a relic.

As for the Jason Taylor treatment, the ENTIRE Dolphins organization should be fired for not being smart enough to capitalize on the great FREE, and positive press this clean cut winner of last year's Walter Payton Man of the Year Award could have garnered the team. In the age of Pacman Jones and Michael Vick, the Dolphins had a chance to utilize all of the feel good news about Jason but chose to marginalize him instead. So now they have a bunch of no-name, mediocre or aiight players on their team. Bunch of dumb asses. rolleyes
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Reply #4 posted 05/22/08 6:32am

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Can't STAND him. brick The fact that he wouldn't call Terrell Owens by his name when he hadn't done anything wrong shows how assinine, disrespectful, and juvenile his mind games are. He's a prick and I KNOW all of the Cowboys HATED playing for his triflin' ass. I'm glad he's not coaching. And I think his team-building reputation is completely overblown. Yeah, he built the Cowboys but before their damn good 13-3 season last year, they were 9-7 for the last TWO years under Parcells. He's a relic.

As for the Jason Taylor treatment, the ENTIRE Dolphins organization should be fired for not being smart enough to capitalize on the great FREE, and positive press this clean cut winner of last year's Walter Payton Man of the Year Award could have garnered the team. In the age of Pacman Jones and Michael Vick, the Dolphins had a chance to utilize all of the feel good news about Jason but chose to marginalize him instead. So now they have a bunch of no-name, mediocre or aiight players on their team. Bunch of dumb asses. rolleyes



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Reply #5 posted 05/22/08 6:34am

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Mach said:

SCNDLS said:

Can't STAND him. brick The fact that he wouldn't call Terrell Owens by his name when he hadn't done anything wrong shows how assinine, disrespectful, and juvenile his mind games are. He's a prick and I KNOW all of the Cowboys HATED playing for his triflin' ass. I'm glad he's not coaching. And I think his team-building reputation is completely overblown. Yeah, he built the Cowboys but before their damn good 13-3 season last year, they were 9-7 for the last TWO years under Parcells. He's a relic.

As for the Jason Taylor treatment, the ENTIRE Dolphins organization should be fired for not being smart enough to capitalize on the great FREE, and positive press this clean cut winner of last year's Walter Payton Man of the Year Award could have garnered the team. In the age of Pacman Jones and Michael Vick, the Dolphins had a chance to utilize all of the feel good news about Jason but chose to marginalize him instead. So now they have a bunch of no-name, mediocre or aiight players on their team. Bunch of dumb asses. rolleyes



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Reply #6 posted 05/22/08 7:01am

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Sowhat said:

RodeoSchro said:

I've never respected him AT ALL. Yes, he won a couple Super Bowls - yay for him. But he's never been anything more than a bully. I am not surprised he and Bob Knight are buddies.

What's got me ticked off is his treatment of Jason Taylor. He has basically cut ties with the Dolphin's only Pro Bowl player because Taylor missed VOLUNTARY mini-camps to be on "Dancing with the Stars".

Yeah, I know the term "voluntary" doesn't really mean voluntary, but we're talking about a Pro Bowl player with 11 years' experience who, by the way, was the NFL's Man of the Year last year. Taylor has not violated any part of his contract, nor has he missed anything he's contractually obligated to attend.

I don't particularly dislike the Fins, but Bill Parcells can go suck it as far as I'm concerned.


But if you are a Dolphins fan, you won't be sick of him when he builds a winner there in Miami.


Not a chance of Parcells bringing a winner to Miami. Mark it down.
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Reply #7 posted 05/22/08 7:53am

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RodeoSchro said:

Sowhat said:



But if you are a Dolphins fan, you won't be sick of him when he builds a winner there in Miami.


Not a chance of Parcells bringing a winner to Miami. Mark it down.


Marked it down.....so I can throw it in your face later.... razz

Like the guy or not, he does produce winning teams. Not necessarily Super Bowl winning teams, but winners. He did it in NY (Giants), New England, NY again (Jets) and Dallas.

I'm not a fan of his, in fact his NY Giants team got in the way of my 49ers winning at least one more Super Bowl.

But his record speaks for itself. The guy knows how to win. And he will build a playoff team in Miami. Not this year or necessarily next, there is a lot of work to do there. But they will make the playoffs in the near future.
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Reply #8 posted 05/22/08 8:03am

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Sowhat said:

RodeoSchro said:



Not a chance of Parcells bringing a winner to Miami. Mark it down.


Marked it down.....so I can throw it in your face later.... razz

Like the guy or not, he does produce winning teams. Not necessarily Super Bowl winning teams, but winners. He did it in NY (Giants), New England, NY again (Jets) and Dallas.

I'm not a fan of his, in fact his NY Giants team got in the way of my 49ers winning at least one more Super Bowl.

But his record speaks for itself. The guy knows how to win. And he will build a playoff team in Miami. Not this year or necessarily next, there is a lot of work to do there. But they will make the playoffs in the near future.

Sorry but he didn't do shit in Dallas, he had a 34-32 record over four years. That's barely a winning record and not impressive to me in the least. Plus he was 8-8 his last season with the Giants. He's been making it on his former glory for awhile now.
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Reply #9 posted 05/22/08 8:22am

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SCNDLS said:

Sowhat said:



Marked it down.....so I can throw it in your face later.... razz

Like the guy or not, he does produce winning teams. Not necessarily Super Bowl winning teams, but winners. He did it in NY (Giants), New England, NY again (Jets) and Dallas.

I'm not a fan of his, in fact his NY Giants team got in the way of my 49ers winning at least one more Super Bowl.

But his record speaks for itself. The guy knows how to win. And he will build a playoff team in Miami. Not this year or necessarily next, there is a lot of work to do there. But they will make the playoffs in the near future.

Sorry but he didn't do shit in Dallas, he had a 34-32 record over four years. That's barely a winning record and not impressive to me in the least. Plus he was 8-8 his last season with the Giants. He's been making it on his former glory for awhile now.


He had an 8 - 8 record in his last season with the Giants but he built winners with New England and the Jets after that. He made the playoffs in Dallas but had his hands tied to some extent (IE: he did not want T.O but Jones overulled Parcells and got T.O anyway).

Look, I really don't like the guy either, but he has a great track record of turning teams around and I believe he will do the same in Miami.
"Always blessings, never losses......"

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Reply #10 posted 05/22/08 8:46am

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Sowhat said:

SCNDLS said:


Sorry but he didn't do shit in Dallas, he had a 34-32 record over four years. That's barely a winning record and not impressive to me in the least. Plus he was 8-8 his last season with the Giants. He's been making it on his former glory for awhile now.


He had an 8 - 8 record in his last season with the Giants but he built winners with New England and the Jets after that. He made the playoffs in Dallas but had his hands tied to some extent (IE: he did not want T.O but Jones overulled Parcells and got T.O anyway).

Look, I really don't like the guy either, but he has a great track record of turning teams around and I believe he will do the same in Miami.


I'm sorry I said Giants but I meant Jets giggle That 8-8 record was his last season with the Jets before he came to the Cowboys. So his LAST five seasons as a coach, his record is a mediocre .500. I'm not denying he was good in his day, I'm just saying that I'm not believing the hype because of his outdated approach and recent lackluster performance as a coach.
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Reply #11 posted 05/22/08 9:31am

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SCNDLS said:

Sowhat said:



He had an 8 - 8 record in his last season with the Giants but he built winners with New England and the Jets after that. He made the playoffs in Dallas but had his hands tied to some extent (IE: he did not want T.O but Jones overulled Parcells and got T.O anyway).

Look, I really don't like the guy either, but he has a great track record of turning teams around and I believe he will do the same in Miami.


I'm sorry I said Giants but I meant Jets giggle That 8-8 record was his last season with the Jets before he came to the Cowboys. So his LAST five seasons as a coach, his record is a mediocre .500. I'm not denying he was good in his day, I'm just saying that I'm not believing the hype because of his outdated approach and recent lackluster performance as a coach.


You may be right but my gut instinct tells me he will build a playoff team in Miami. I think his hands were tied in Dallas, which is why he didn't perform better.

We'll see. He won't be the coach, but he will be basically calling the shots. Only time will tell.

And again, I have never really liked the guy, but I can respect him for what he has done.
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Reply #12 posted 05/23/08 4:41pm

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Dumb asses. . . and I hadn't even read this article when I posted. giggle



http://sports.yahoo.com/n...&type=lgns

Dumb Dolphins

When Miami Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga hired Bill Parcells to run his football team, the expectation was that the team would become big, tough and disciplined.

Nobody was expecting stupid.

That’s what the Miami fan base got Wednesday when coach Tony Sparano, Parcells’ selection for the job, essentially called out Pro Bowl defensive end Jason Taylor. Sparano escalated the growing feud between the team and Taylor by essentially calling out Taylor for not being part of offseason workouts and saying that Taylor wouldn’t be with the team in training camp.

“This is my reaction with the Jason Taylor situation,” Sparano said. “I’m going to answer this question one time. I’m not going to answer another question about the Jason Taylor situation after I answer this. Here is what I know. I’m glad we know this and we’ve gotten the information. That’s important.

“I know that Jason is not going to be at any (offseason workouts), know that Jason is not going to be at any minicamps, and I know that, right now, Jason is not going to be at training camp. So that’s what we know. Jason is a player under contract with the Miami Dolphins. He knows that. Both parties are well aware of the information. That is all I am going to say about it. I am going to talk about our players now. I am not going to talk about another thing about Jason. I am not going to talk about another thing.

“What I just told you is what I know. It’s what we know, and that being said, we need to discuss the current players on our team right now that have been busting their butt for nine weeks here.”

While all of that may come off as strong and aggressive to some people, it’s really stupid.

Why? Whether the Dolphins want to have Taylor play for them this season (which they apparently don’t) or whether they want to trade Taylor, what Sparano said helps neither cause.

First, if they somehow want Taylor around (again, that seems impossible to believe at this point), what Sparano said only alienates the Dolphins from their best player. Second, if the Dolphins want to trade Taylor, they have only decreased his value by making it appear they don’t want him.

Sure, some people will argue Sparano’s statements make it clear who is in charge to the rest of the team. That sounds macho, but it’s really shortsighted.

The task for Parcells, Sparano and Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland (another Parcells protégé) was to get Taylor to play or to get as much as possible for him in a trade. As recently as two weeks ago, one source said that at least one team interested in trading for Taylor believed that Parcells simply would cut Taylor.

As absurd as that sounds (heck, Tennessee got a conditional fourth-round pick for Pacman Jones), Sparano’s comments only feed that perception. Instead of offering more, teams now are likely to offer less.

Furthermore, taking on Taylor really is pretty silly. Sure, Taylor has been thumbing his nose at the Dolphins the past couple of days. He finished second in “Dancing With The Stars” on Tuesday and then took a redeye to New York to appear on “Live with Regis and Kelly” on Wednesday morning instead of returning to offseason workouts with the Dolphins.

As much as some people may think that’s wrong, it is Taylor’s right to do that. With the exception of an offseason minicamp, offseason workouts are voluntary. In addition, Taylor has earned this right. This is a guy who never has been out of shape in his career. He has played hard and was the NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2006.

Off the field, Taylor has been everything that Huizenga has asked of players. His Jason Taylor Foundation runs a program that helps teach kids to read. Last season, Taylor was named the NFL Man of the Year for his charity work.

In short, Taylor has more than held up his end of the bargain as a member of the Dolphins.

Yes, he wants out right now. But at 33, after having missed the playoffs for the past six years and facing another rebuilding project (Parcells and Sparano are kidding themselves if they think any of the quarterbacks on the roster are going to lead them to the playoffs in the next two years), Taylor isn’t asking for something completely unfair. In fact, last month Huizenga said he thought Taylor deserved a chance to chase a title elsewhere if the Dolphins can’t make it happen.

Finally, to Taylor’s credit, he hasn’t even said such words himself. He never has acted like Chad Johnson or Terrell Owens, trashing a franchise as he tried to get out. Taylor has tried to exit quietly rather than acting like some spoiled idiot.

Instead, Sparano did the job for him.
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