MuthaFunka said:

Fine, if you want to think you're not justifying it. That's fine. I completely disagree.

But do you or do you not think it's okay for you to dismiss a woman as a whore, perpetuating the double standard, because 'it is what it is'?

CarrieMpls said:

JustErin said:

That depends on how you define hot. Like your thread and posts by the way.

MuthaFunka said:

You don't find that utterly offensive? If someone said that to you seriously, you would just smile and nod and walk away?

chuckecheese said:

Post your pic and we'll see what I think.

And thanks.

evenstar3 said:

When did I dismiss any woman as a whore? Men can be whores, too, so where are you getting this from? Read - again - what I said: Women will ALWAYS fall victim to the double standard when it comes to sex as to how they are perceived and how men are perceived, because women are viewed as "innocent & pure" by the world and have been throughout all of time and that view will never change.

So, seriously, are you really gonna try a rebuttal after I explained it right there?

CarrieMpls said:

Ok, now, is this debate about "What do I find offensive" or is it about "Is there a double standard for women and men when it comes to sex?". It's the latter.

MuthaFunka said:

You also said this.

Slave2daGroove said:

AMEN.

JustErin said:[quote]

MuthaFunka said:

Exactly. And if a dude tells you he had sex with over 70 women, I strongly doubt that YOU would be about that, would you? I made a choice of mainly HEALTH reasons for that matter. I gave you an example of a chick being a whore and that a dude with that many "kills" would be a whore as well. I COULDN'T give an example of men because I'm heterosexual and so I'm gonna ONLY be able to give my experiences with women.

MuthaFunka said:

Lemme guess, in your world ho doesn't mean whore, right?



Can you or can you not answer a simple question?

I think this thread's given me an idea what I'm going to incorporate into my next paper for my women's history class.

evenstar3 said:[quote]

MuthaFunka said:

As I explained in my previous post - PERSONALLY, I dismissed her as a "ho" because of the SITUATION to which she said it happened by. I would also consider a dude with that many partners in that short of a timespan a "ho". 70 partners by the time you reach college = WHORE, HO, SLUT, TRICK, TRAMP - regardless of sex! Sorry, if ANYONE is offended by that, but oh well!

MuthaFunka said:

I find it interesting that you're only just now mitigating your comments with the idea that men can be whores too. Very telling. I'm glad that you've admitted to dismissing a woman as a whore, though.
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MuthaFunka said:

We're not debating whether or not there IS a double standard or there will always be a double standard. Only time will tell. You've dismissed the double standard as "it is what it is" and I'm pointing out that double standards are wrong. And offensive to boot. Apparently you're having another conversation.

evenstar3 said:

Oh, don't worry, I also found it extremely interesting that you claim that a large amount of sex partners by your dude wouldn't cause a stir in you.

ahhhhh skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet skeet

ahhhhh skeet skett gaht DAMN!!!!

CarrieMpls said:

Exactly, that attitude is scary to me.

Thankfully some people are progressive in their thinking. Can you imagine what world this would be if we didn't have progressive thinkers?

MuthaFunka said:

How so? I'm in head over heels, ridiculously in love- I wouldn't trade that for anything.

CarrieMpls said:

Oh ok. Then it's pretty simple then - Most double standards are wrong. This is a case of a wrong double standard. When I use the term "It is what it is" that means that this particularly double standard won't ever go away. Period.

Now, hopefully everybody's clear on this. (But something tells me it's gonna keep going and going and going... )

evenstar3 said:

Hey, whatever you say. You don't have to convince me just as I never have to convince you of anything. If I choose not to believe you, then that's my right, right?

MuthaFunka said:

You need to disbelieve me to continue your line of reasoning, so I'm not surprised. I just pity women who get involved with men who reason like you do.

All of my partners have had more partners than me, so I don't care that much, but there would definitely be a point where it would matter.

Say she said "500." I wouldn't just let that go without a second thought.

evenstar3 said:

No, I disbelieve you simply because it's easy to say it wouldn't bother you when you DON'T know, but if ever confronted with that and it was a large number, I think someone like you would be crushed. I don't think you'd be able to handle that type of news. So, pity me all you want, but I'd be more concerned about pitying yourself because you have this "take advantage of me" vibe about you.

NDRU said:

Damn! - But hey, there are some people who think it's just "groovy" simply because they'd claim to be so deep in love that 500 pussies/dicks wouldn't change the way they feel about their mate.

MuthaFunka said:

The first guy I was with had way more experience than me, and I didn't break up with him because of it.

If you read my post more carefully, you'll notice that I said nothing about pitying you. "Take advantage of me vibe"? Does that have anything at all to do with the topic? Care to elaborate?

MuthaFunka said:

Ok let me try and make this real simple for yo' ass.

What is being discussed is the hypocrisy of what you said earlier.
IE how you hold that women are skanks if they have slept with X guys but you try and hold this "pimp" ideal of "i aint tellin' how much ass i have tapped"

That is hypocrisy UNLESS either you dont care which i dont buy for a minute or.....which i suspect more.....you aint tapped much in the way of ass.

The issue is NOT number it is saying its ok for YOU to be a HO but not for your lady to do the same.

Kinda like you are not equal yanno?

You remember equality right? You and me argue about it alot

evenstar3 said:

Its a good job we dont feel that way about racism huh?

evenstar3 said:

Hey, you don't have to convince me of anything, remember? You should be secure enough not to worry about comments from the Org, so don't sweat it.

mdiver said:

Your first mistake is not being able to comprehend on what the topic is truly about the stances taken in regards to the topic. Read back. Respect the thread before you try and make a comment on it mate. It's pretty simple or it should be.