MuthaFunka said:

I think she can take some cues from Dave playing the blind white supremacist. He was too believable!

noimageatall said:

"White parr-er!"

MuthaFunka said:

Did anyone ever see this one? I actually never heard of it. Was it ever finished?

http://movies.go.com/tipster?id=853170

Imago said:

Yeah - possibly the most racist characterisation I ever saw was Mickey Rooney playing the Japanese guy in 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'

blackguitaristz said:

The thing is that in that movie she made, Angelina Jolie really looked a bit like the woman she played, and keep in mind that that woman she played is very lightskinned. Halle Berry on the other hand is also lightskinned but doesn´t really look caucasian, in my opinion. At least that´s the way I see it, as a non-american...but of course there might be more behind it and maybe you are making a valid point but, as I said, it works one way but not the other way around. Angelina Jolie could also play a Latina or Middle Eastern woman, her look is pretty versatile, IMO, especially when she changes the color or texture of her hair.
I´m looking at this from a totally non-political perspective here, just judging by the looks of both actresses.

PopeLeo said:

Yeah, I still cringe every time I watch that film because of that. I love most of the other parts of that film, but I cannot in good conscience recommend it to people because of the Mr. Yunioshi character.

Alicia Keys will NOT be doing the soundtrack.

blackguitaristz said:

I know Halle down plays her white side but if it wasn't for her white side she wouldn't exist.

kpowers said:

Well according to Halle, her mother was the one who suggested she identify as black, because that is how ppl were going to view her

lmao @ mj

the mj and halle mix is kind of attractive to be honest. It shows that he would look decent if he was able to tan today, although nothing like before

It didn't really surprise me cause I already knew she's half white.

PurpleRighteous1 said:

I'm half white and I identify as Asian.

It's largely because that's how I AM viewed. I'm tan, black hair, and have relatively Asian features--moreso than white. So I don't get treated as white. Thus, I identify as Asian. I'm comfortable with this identification though I do understand that I'm mixed. It's not a confusing thing for me, and I see where Halle is coming from in her identification.

Imago said:

So do I. It's actually a really interesting thing that I hear from a lot of mixed ppl (or rather those mixed with white and something else). Deep down they don't actually choose to be one or the other because they can't, but they usually identify with the non-white race because that is how ppl view them. I'm not sure how someone who is mixed could not identify more with one race, especially when ppl treat you a certain way based on the way you look. I can see how it may be difficult to deal with, especially early in life, but it's definitely difficult to fully identify with both because of the outside forces.

Imago said:

You're a farang here though.

foxyflawedhands said:

YES!!!



It blew my mind they called me farang, considering a lot of the Thais there were more pale than I was. It was like they were trying to look as pasty and white (I don't mean Caucasians are pasty and white...but asians when they try to 'whiten' look pasty) as possible. So I found it odd they called me that.

But then again, my features are a little bit confusing to a pure Thai. And I'm tall, a bit hairy, etc. etc. The fact that below the waste I'm all black if you know what I mean, seems to confuse folks even more.

Imago said:

It's funny isn't it? I see Chinese Thais paler than me and I'm mostly of Scandinavian descent. You get dark reddish brown skinned Thais, dark brown, very pale Chinese, yellowish Chinese Thais, and even half Thai half Europeans who don't get the 'farang' label, yet you get labelled a farang straight away. It must be your fanny pack or something. It's not even about money or actual facial features either. I mean, you can see an obviously rich Chinese person pale as a sheet and they look absolutely nothing like a Thai from Issan or somewhere like Hat Yai, and have a completely different lifestyle that's alien to the average Thai, yet you being more Thai (and looking more so) are called farang.

As a non-Asian it depends how dark you are though. Most western Europeans are farang, but if say you're from Turkey and darker skinned the farang term no longer applies. If you're middle eastern or Indian a worse word is used and all black people are called either 'khon dum' (black person) or negro regardless of where they're from. As for me, I went to get my hair cut one time when I had a tan and my beard was long and they thought I was Moroccan.

Were you even referred to as 'luuk khrung' (half child)?

I should also add that I once knew a guy here called Nathan who was half Korean and half Thai but simply raised in the US and he was considered farang too.

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Ottensen said:

They used make-up to make her look white

kpowers said:

Her white momma raised her to identity as black

PurpleRighteous1 said:

The intimate portrait I saw on Halle over a decade ago she she clearly said that she identifies as a black woman because that's what she sees when she looks in the mirror. Those are the words she wpoke from her own mouth. Sounds reasonable enough to me.

JasmineFire said:

What's there to be disappointed in with the poo poo face ? Maianne Van Neyenhoff Pearl, the journalist who the story "A Mighty Heart" is based on, is a French lady of half Dutch (caucasian), half Afro-Cuban ancestry. The two are very close friends with a shared interest and activities in humanitarian work. She personally gave the blessing for Jolie to portray her in the film, so seems kosher to me

LiquidGold said:

Obviously, and..?

....all I'm saying, is how they light her in the film to blow her complexion out is a huge part of how she'll be able look convincing as a caucasian woman. I never suggested that they didn't pancake and powder her to high hell. That's a given, as far as I'm concerned.

Ottensen said:

That's exactly the reference I was talking about

the text you quoted says she is at the mercy of a caucasian racist?

Im confused is she playin the racist or is she in a film about a racist?


Int she mixed race anyhow?

kpowers said:

Ummm..yeah. Just like if it wasn't for her "black" side, she wouldn't exist either. All that shit is obvious. Has nothing to do with what I was stating about how Halle "views" herself.

PurpleRighteous1 said:

Exactly.

KoolEaze said:

I agree. I thought Jolie resembled the woman she was playing. It was her right to play the part anyways because she was the one who got the film made. It was her idea to make a movie about this lady in the first place. But yeah, Jolie does have features that can transfer well playing other races.

Ottensen said:

i'm ashamed of myself for not being more familiar with the story to know what race mainne van neyenhoff pearl was to begin with or anything about her really. how presumptuous of you to assume i was upset at jolie herself for portraying a woman of another race.

Wow, that will be kind of hard for her to play since she is one herself a caucasion wannabe!! Interesting!!!???

blackguitaristz said:

Um ok, calm down there