uPtoWnNY said:

Dude should be in the HOF. Bill Walton's in and his career wasn't that much better than Dennis'. In fact, Walton got in on his college credentials for the most part.

MuthaFunka said:

I've never encountered someone so up himself on the internet before. Congratulations! What's childish is insisting that you are "schooling" people and constantly degrading other posters by inferring that they have no knowledge of basketball, just because they don't agree with you.

You have great comedic value here, though, that's for sure. Implying that the Lakers have the best bench in the league was good for grade A laughs.

MuthaFunka said:

True, the basketball HOF takes the entire career into account. Walton was(IMO), the second greatest college player ever(behind Kareem), but only had one and a half years of greatness in the pros. DJ had a much better pro career. He and Gus "The Wizard" Williams were one of the best backcourts I've ever seen.

Larry Legend made the classic steal on Detroit, but it was DJ who had the prescence of mind to be in the right place at the right time and he converted a tough layup. It's a travesty he's not in the HOF.

uPtoWnNY said:

Now that AD is in, Dennis Johnson is my choice for the most deserving player not in the Hall.

Moonbeam said:

You finished now? Good. Sorry, but anyone who thinks Kwame Freakin' Brown's game and Brian Grant's game was hindered by Kobe doesn't know hoops. That's truly evident and I hate to break that to you but you should actually at least know that. Good lord. Now, hopefully you're able to move on. We're on another topic. Join us, if you can.

uPtoWnNY said:

Hmm? Bill the 2ndGOAT in college? I'll have to think about that for a bit and see. He was in fact a beast though.

And I wonder if DJ will get some consideration due to his passing. You know how they do cats after they pass: Good enough when they're no longer here but not good enough while they're here. Sad.

MuthaFunka said:

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. You can stick to your opinion that I don't know hoops- I don't really care! I could make the same argument about you given some of your statements, such as the aforementioned Laker bench comment, but especially the comment that Kobe is a better scorer than MJ. But I'm not so short-sighted as to imply that someone doesn't know basketball on the basis of one or two opinions with which I disagree. However, I am confident in saying that you seem unable to engage in a debate with someone without resorting to insults and self-exaltation. It doesn't make you come off as a very likable and detracts from any valid points you may have.

MuthaFunka said:

To me, the top three college ballers are Kareem, Big Red & Bill Russell.

Read DJ's numbers at wikipedia - if this isn't HOF material, I don't know what the f--k is. AD was great, but how does he get in over DJ? DJ was a Finals MVP!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...is_Johnson

Muthafunka, nobody thinks your opinions are a prick. Just sayin'

uPtoWnNY said:

While DJ was great and has a better argument in terms of team success, AD had a better skill set and put up better numbers, which is why he gets the nod. The truth is, both players are highly underrated, and both should have made the top 50 of all-time on the 50th Anniversary team.

DJ was pure class. Total NBA player.


Sad he died before his time. In Memory.

july said:

I was 8 years old when the Sonics won the NBA Championship.




Summer of 1979. Seattle SuperSonics. World Champions! NBA!

ButterscotchPimp said:

It's harsh, harsh. The sonic soul is being ripped out of the city. Pain. Anxiety.
You name it. Losing a team is harsh business. We got um in court. But one can only hope.

uPtoWnNY said:

Yeah, you may be right about that top 3. I can't recall anyone else as of yet.

And yeah, DJ's 5 all stars and multi All Defense teams - He should get the nod.

foxyflawedhands said:

You have way too much knowledge about pricks, homey.

Moonbeam said:

Wait a minute now. Ok, so who do you take off the 50 list to include them?

MuthaFunka said:

I hope you didn't spend too long on that gem.

MuthaFunka said:

At the time, it was bogus to include Shaq, as he had only played 4 seasons. I also would have taken out Bill Walton, who although great, did not last long enough in the league or produce enough to warrant his inclusion.

foxyflawedhands said:

I'm thinking about as much time as you spent "creating" yours.

Moonbeam said:

Ok, but you can't take any big men off. If your including DJ and AD, you have to take off at least 1 guard (maybe 2 since AD played guard as well as forward) and 1 forward.

MuthaFunka said:

Dude, I didn't expect you to respond right away! You could've thought for a bit. Here, I'll give you as long as you like if it's easier.

p.s. A good troll can make people laugh. Work on that and you could stay here awhile.

MuthaFunka said:

Did they choose the players based on position? I didn't think they did.

july said:

Save our Sonics.

I hope the league is able to put another Sonics team in Seattle if they are indeed pilfered to Oklahoma City. You can't just turn your back on 41 years of tradition.

MuthaFunka said:

Others would be Elvin Hayes, Austin Carr, Bill Bradley, Patrick Ewing, Christian Laettner....all had tremendous college careers. Jordan wouldn't be on the list. His time at UNC pales in comparision to his pro career.

foxyflawedhands said:

Why, YOU didn't!

But on the real, you seriously need a new joke writer "Internet Jokes for Dummies" just ain't cuttin' it for you in 2008!

Moonbeam said:

Yep. That's how they came up with 50 = 10 from each position.

uPtoWnNY said:

I was gonna say Laettner but he didn't have as many titles. Then I thought Ewing and Hakeem as well.

Ok, back to watching my Lakers whore the McNuggets .

MuthaFunka said:

Can u say Lenny Bias?
Mark Aguirre?
Larry Bird?
Danny Manning?
Dr. Funk Darryl Dawkins?
Hakeem?
Patrick Ewing?
Pistol Pete?