foxyflawedhands said:

aww im sry

emilia1 said:

It's ok. I know we're getting swept.

uPtoWnNY said:

Iverson .. well he owned up n said he deserved to be thrown out .. but .. i was sitting there 'be quiet! stop talking back! be quiet!'

Flowerz said:

If Denver wins ONE game, I'll be shocked. Nuggets can score, and they can't stop the other team from scoring. That's not playoff basketball.

uPtoWnNY said:

Lakers will take this round. it's the Mavericks/Hornets i need to focus on ..

Another road win for the Jazz! Road futility was the biggest knock on the Jazz before this postseason began, and they've now beaten a 55-win Houston squad twice in a row in Houston.

The Wizards are looking to be swept, by the looks of things. Terrible effort against a Cleveland team that was slumping.

They had the 2nd longest winning streak ever and drop their 2 playoff home games. This proves what a lot of people had been saying earlier about their streak - It was "momentum" based more than anything else.

MuthaFunka said:

That's profound.

Let me make myself perfectly clear:

The Utah Jazz are pussies.
Jerry Sloan is a pussy. A major, major PUSSY.
Andrei Kirilenko is a pussy.
John Stockton was a pussy.
Karl Malone was the biggest pussy of all.

ALL FLOPPERS ARE PUSSIES. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

There, I feel better!

RodeoSchro said:

Lol.....Sloan would kick your a@s 4 saying that 2 his face.

MuthaFunka said:

There you go again. A "momentum based" winning streak. LOL.

Yao Ming and Rafer Alston could not play in the first two Jazz games.

There is no such thing as a "momentum based winning streak". If 22-game winning streaks were so easy, you'd see them every year.


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[Edited 4/22/08 8:21am]

Graycap23 said:

He'd damn sure try, but you know the first time I threw a punch, he'd flop to the floor, screaming and crying like the little girl he is!

Moonbeam said:

Gee, Kirilienko is lucky to still be alive after that shot Scola gave him as Jackson was hitting the game-tying 3.

I seriously don't know how Jazz fans can sleep at night...

RodeoSchro said:

Yeah. I'm now convinced that you NEVER played organized sports of any kind. None. If you don't think "momentum" is a reason for teams going on runs/streaks, then you need to seriously sit this conversation out. Let me school - again - real quick, kid:

The mere fact that Yao WASN'T there proves it was a momentum-spurned streak more than anything else. They were in a great groove and they also got a few breaks - with some weak teams and teams without their star players - and once that groove got broken, what happened to them? They ran up against the Celts and got beatdown by 20, then they went 7-9 the rest of the way. Now, explain THAT shit? They didn't get Yao back, right? Same team, right? THEN explain why they're about to get swept if the 22-game win streak was about how good they are?

RodeoSchro said:

Please. Sour grapes and excuses. Tell TMac to show up in the 4th and you won't need to have excuses. 1 point in BOTH 4th quarters? Sad. That dude is doomed to leave his legacy as the baller that couldn't get out of the 1st round.

MuthaFunka said:

Dude, why do you keep exposing yourself this way?

Everyone else played the same teams the Rockets did, but I didn't see anyone else running off 22 in a row - half of those wins accomplished without their leading scorer.

A "momentum streak". LMAO. Seriously, have you ever worn a uniform with a number on it?

Now, as to the Jazz series. See, there's a position called "point guard". It's the guy that handles the ball most of the time. He sets up the offense and generally makes the entry pass. The point guard is a pretty important part of the team. I know this is all new to you, so if I'm confusing you, let me know.

The Rockets' point guard - his name is Rafer Alston - hasn't played in the Jazz series (strained hamstring). I'm not sure how good you are at math, but without Alston and Yao, the Rockets are missing 40% of their starting lineup. They're still pushing the Jazz to the final minute.

TMac might indeed have a "can't get out of the first round" legacy, but there's a little more to that story this year than last year.

RodeoSchro said:

Wait, so you're saying EVERY TEAM played the same teams IN THE SAME EXACT SEQUENCE that the Rockets did when they went on their 22-game streak? PROVE IT. Shut me up and PROVE IT! Yeah, I didn't think so.

And again, why did they finish 9-7 right after the streaked stopped if it wasn't about momentum? You never responded to that. Why? Because you have absolutely nothing to back up your argument.

LOL! And if you're blaming the PG play for the reason the Rockets are down 0-2, then you really have no idea of what this game is about. So you're saying that Skip To My Lou was gonna be able to hang/outplay D-Will? FAT CHANCE, playa.

But wait, where was this "We don't have Yao and Rafer" excuse while they went on a 22-game win streak that you said had nothing to do with momentum? - If it wasn't about momentum, why are you NOW using their absence as an EXCUSE for why they haven't won a game yet? See, you can't have it both ways, kid, it doesn't work that way. But nice try though.

Oh, and I guess that's a moral victory for your team when they're "still pushing the Jazz in the final minute". Moral victories don't mean jack shit in the playoffs, homie!
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MuthaFunka said:

LMAO, I've told you before - when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you need to do is QUIT DIGGING.

Seriously, you have no idea what a point guard does? You REALLY don't think the point guard is important? You HONESTLY think the second-team point guard is better than the starter? You ACTUALLY believe Rafer had to outplay Deron Williams for the Rockets to win (rather than outplay his replacement, Bobby Jackson)?

It's really going to be hard to discuss basketball with you when you don't even know what a point guard is or why he's important.

I'm still laughing, thinking that there's actually someone out there who thinks a 22-game winning streak that encompassed 50 days and included the loss of its leading scorer halfway through, was accomplished because of "momentum".

LMAO, too funny.

RodeoSchro said:

He didn't answer ONE SINGLE QUESTION that I posed to him because he KNEW he couldn't back NONE of his ridiculous shit up! LMAO! Thought so!

RodeoSchro said:

What was this post supposd to do - Take the attention off the fact that YOU DIDN'T ANSWER A SINGLE QUESTION I DROPPED ON YOU? Nice try, kid!

MuthaFunka said:

Dude, your questions are nonsensical. They are rooted in a lack of knowledge about the game.

When you figure out what a point guard is, come back and we'll talk.

MuthaFunka said:

I hoped that by posting it, I'd stop laughing at you but no luck.

A 22-game "momentum" win streak. Classic!

RodeoSchro said:

And he STILL didn't answer ONE SINGLE QUESTION that I posed to him because he KNEW he couldn't back NONE of that ridiculous-ass shit up! LMAO! Thanks for playing, kid!

RodeoSchro said:

Nope! It only reinforced the fact that YOU CAN'T ANSWER MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT WILL PROVE YOU WRONG!

MuthaFunka said:

LMAO, you think the streak happened in a vacuum. You think the Rockets won 22 games in a row not because of talent, game-planning or skills, but because they got "hot".

You think because they didn't win out, that proves it was nothing more than "momentum". You fail to understand that ultimately, a coach with better talent figured out a way to beat the Rockets. Why you think the Rockets' inability to win every game is proof they were lucky is, indeed, laughable and curious.

You can't figure out if the Rockets went 7 - 9 or 9 - 7 after the streak ended (it was 9 - 7). You have no explanation for why the team could win 12 games in a row AFTER its leading scorer was lost for the year. If it was truly "momentum" that created the streak, then the loss of the team's leading scorer should have immediately ended the momentum.

It didn't.

You do not know what a point guard is or does, much less why it's better to have the starting point guard rather than the second-teamer.

You think the Rockets' point guard has to outplay the Jazz's point guard for the Rockets to win. You don't understand the idiocy of that thinking, because you don't understand that the Rockets' starting point guard only has to play better than his replacement for the Rockets to perform better as a team.

For some reason, you think an analyis of the Rockets' performance without their starting point guard is a claim of a moral victory - I guess because that's the only kind of victory you've ever had.

You ask asinine questions, then claim that because no one answered them, you "won". I have to admit, you've given me a GREAT laugh.

RodeoSchro said:

Good! FINALLY he manned-up and gave a response. Now, let me ONCE AGAIN set you straight on your lack of logic in all of this:

So, if they won 12 in a row WITHOUT THEIR LEADING SCORER then why can't they win NOW WITHOUT THEIR LEADING SCORER? Better yet, WHY DIDN'T THEY START UP ANOTHER STREAK after they lost to Beantown? - Thought so!

Why the 9-7 finish to the season? What changed? It was the SAME TEAM THAT WON 22-STRAIGHT, right? How many more excuses are you gonna try and use? Seriously?

BUT - You still avoided the OTHER question: Prove every team played those same teams in the sequence the Rockets played them. A bunch of sub .500 like the Bucks, Pacers (twice), Nets, Bobcats, Wolves, Hawks (twice), Kings, Bulls, Wizards and Heat teams You don't wanna mention Dirk being out or Gasol being out or David West being out when they faced the Mavs, Lakers, and Hornets, huh, kid?

Was the streak impressive? Yes. Did any REAL basketball aficianodos think it meant they were a top team? No. It's simple, kid: They easily benefitted from the schedule they had at that exact moment, because had they faced the Celts after their 6th ot 7th win in a row, they wouldn't hathe 2nd longest streak. Simple as that.

But the funniest shit is - How much you're HYPING-UP Rafer Freakin' Alston! LMAO! Yeah, HE'S the reason you guys are goose-eggin' against the Jazz. Rafer is the best player on the team, not Yao or Tmac! Got it! It's RAFER'S fault that TMac has only score 1 fucking point in the 2 4th quarters! Dammn that Rafer!

So, we have it like this:

Rodeo: "We won 12-straight games without our leading scorer"
Rodeo: "We can't win without our leading scorer"

And the one I love the BEST!:

Rodeo: "We can't win without the great Rafer Alston who just happens to be our 4th best player"

Got it! Thanks for clearing everything up!

MuthaFunka said:

LMAO. First of all, I'm 49, so any time someone calls me "kid", it feels good. Thanks!

They did start another streak after the 22-game streak ended. They pulled off five in a row. But somehow, you can't understand that the Rockets are not the best team in the league, and therefore weren't going to win every game. Weird.

No one's claiming the Rockets are the end-all be-all. They almost certainly aren't going to win the title. With Yao, I think they'd be as likely as anyone to win, but he isn't coming back.

I have no idea why you're hung up on the sequence of teams played during the streak. That's just stupid.

But what's even more stupid is that you make the case that: (a) the Rockets won a lot of games when the other team was missing a key player, so the streak is tainted, but (2) when the Rockets won 12 in a row without THEIR leading scorer, that doesn't add anything to the streak. Odd.

For some reason, you can't explain why, if the Rockets' streak was pure luck, no other NBA teams are running off 22 in a row.

Somehow you've assigned God-like status to Rafer Alston. This is really stupid. Why you can't understand that the starter - Rafer Alston - is better than the back-up - Bobby Jackson, I have no idea. Of course, since I am abslutely sure you've never played competitive sports, maybe I shouldn't be surprised you don't know the difference between first-team and second-team.

RodeoSchro said:

Old mofo.....just kidding.

Graycap23 said:

LMAO, you know it!