RodeoSchro said:

While that was a flop, Scola and Battier also flop like nobody's business, so Houston doesn't really have a legitimate gripe.

I don't want the Sonics to go.

MuthaFunka back to his old antics again. Hysterical!

Teams don't go through over a quarter of the regular season without a loss unless they're pretty darn good, no matter WHO they play. It doesn't mean they are excellent (Portland won 13 games in a row, but they are hardly an elite team), but a 22-game win streak is impressive, no matter the competition. The Rockets just don't match up very well against the Jazz, which is why I was hoping to face Houston in the first round. Nevertheless, Houston is a bona fide playoff team, and they would be much better if they had Yao and Rafer. That doesn't mean that they'd beat the Jazz, but it would definitely make them a more formidable opponent for anyone.

Moonbeam said:

Uh, YOU need to read the arguments over in their entirety before you try and "chime in" with your (very) limited knowledge of the game .

No one said they weren't a playoff team, so where'd you get that nonsense from? You didn't read. No one said the streak WASN'T impressive, so where'd you get that from? Again, you didn't read. Read the responses all the way through before you post on what's being discussed.

MuthaFunka said:

Um, you may want to read what I wrote. I never implied that you (or anyone) said they weren't a playoff team. However, you are trying to justify the streak as a simple product of momentum, which is bogus. How many teams in the league today would have had the same streak against the same competition in succession? That's a tough call, but I'd venture to say that very few would.

Moonbeam said:

Ok, so why would you ridiculousy say that they're a "bonafide playoff team" when that shit is obvious BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE PLAYOFFS? DUH!

And I can tell you just went back and finally read the debate and you're now up to speed, so kudos to you . Now, having said that, there are a bunch of teams that could have made the run vs those exact teams at that exact stretch of schedule.

Again, they did most of that wothout Yao, so that right there tells you they faced a lot of sub .500 teams (You saw the list I dropped on the 2nd funkiest white kid, so don't front ) and then they faced 3 playoff teams without their key players (Gasol, West, & Dirk) which leveled out the talent for them, and when they faced the beast that is the Celts - They got stomped by 20 and then went on to finish the season at 9-7.

So again = It was a momentum-based streak, aided with a soft schedule and key injuries to a few teams they faced.

MuthaFunka said:

I highly doubt a lot of teams could make that 22-game run. Tell me why such a long winning streak is so rare, then? It's not as if the Rockets had some historically easy stretch or anything. During the streak, they beat the following playoff teams:

Cleveland (twice), Atlanta (twice), Cleveland, New Orleans (twice), Washington, Denver, Dallas and the Lakers. They also beat Golden State, who were in the playoff hunt. 7 of those wins against playoff teams came without Yao in the lineup. I find it very funny that you are quick to dismiss some of the wins in that streak because of the injuries that their opponents faced, but you are unwilling to concede that Houston (a) also faced injuries during many of those wins, and (b) is struggling now because two of their starters are injured.

I do agree with you that perhaps some people put too much stock into the streak which led them to believe that Houston was a title favorite, but I don't think Rodeo is one of those people.

MuthaFunka said:

LMAO.

Stick to fantasy sports, bro. It's all you've got.

CP3.....is acting a fool on Dallas.

Graycap23 said:

He REALLY is.


EVERY year, I say, "Fuck the Mavericks! I'm not watching a SINGLE game." And the post-season comes and I get caught up in the hype. . . and then. . . they break my heart. . . AGAIN. . . and AGAIN. Sorry, bastids! But, we're gonna win the next two at home though.

Moonbeam said:

David Stern SUCKS for letting this happen.

That shit just ain't right.

Moonbeam said:

I just told you why it's so rare: They got a break in the schedule (sub .500 teams) and 3 teams that probably would have beaten them were missing their one of their key players. Again, when they played the Celts, they got destroyed. Why? Because the Celts were an above .500 teams. Read up. Seriously. The info is there, just take some initiative and go seek it out.

And you're biggest mistake is trying to use the teams that made the 'playoffs' as a measuring stick when the records are what you need to go by, ESPECIALLY in the weak ass East, where teams get into the playoffs UNDER .500. But you failed to mention the Bucks, Wizards, Wolves, Kings, Pacers (twice), Heat, Grizz, Nets, Bobcats. ALL sub. 500 teams (to go along with the sub. 500 Hawks -twice) and ALL of them they faced during that run. The Caves were only 4-6 games above .500 when they faced them both times. The Blazers were only 5 games above .500.

16 OF THOSE 22 WINS were against either sub .500 teams or teams 4-6 games above .500. So - Again - THEY GOT A BREAK IN THE SCHEDULE THAT ENABLED THEM TO MAKE THAT HISTORIC RUN. They got to play the weak East (12 GAMES) during that run. And what number did I say again? - SIXTEEN WINS!

Now, obviously you simply choose not to read or you're just lazy when it comes to reading posts in its entirety. I mentioned the fact that the Rockets were missing Yao when I mentioned that those other 3 teams were missing their key players and that leveled the playing field. Read up. It's all there.

RodeoSchro said:

And you make sure you stick to the rodeo, Hoss!

SCNDLS said:

Back away from the edge!

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MuthaFunka said:

Shut it, MuthaFukka.

MuthaFunka said:

1. It's "your", not "you're".



2. Again, their schedule during that 22-game run wasn't historically easy or anything. Whether you want to admit it or not, 10 of those 22 games were against teams that finished .500 or better. And it's not like college hoops or anything where little schools can amass big streaks against weak competition all of the time. This is the NBA, where the talent level is much more evenly distributed. Think not? Your precious Lakers lost back to back games against the Bobcats and Grizzlies (2 of the worst road teams in the league) at home.

SCNDLS said:

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Moonbeam said:

LMAO! This is a note to all: When ALL you have left is "typo smack" = YOUR ass is done! That rodeo kid tried that same weak shit after I schooled him!

When you learn the game, THEN I will allow you to speak hoops with me. Until then, read up. Seriously. Oh, and YOU'RE now done.

MuthaFunka said:

The only thing that you have "schooled" anyone on is that you are an Internet troll with an obnoxiously persistent arrogance. I have to be "allowed" to speak hoops with some random person over the Internet? My goodness.

Moonbeam said:

Some random person on the Internet? Don't you know he played high school football AND trolled Yahoo sports boards....errrrr, covered the Lakers for a sports website?

I bet that somewhere in Los Angeles, we're the talk of the 11th grade....LOL.

Moonbeam said:

You best believe it. You wanna waste time pointing out people's typos and weak shit like that, then that just tells me you're not equipped to take me on in a discussion about hoops. It's more important to you to act rather childish and point out grammatical errors by some "random person on the internet" rather than talk the game. That's bush league, always remember that.

RodeoSchro said:

Perfect example right here, Moonbeam: Note that this rodeo kid NEVER recovered from me schooling him about his woeful Rockets and the great RAFER FREAKIN' ALSTON ! Look what he's reduced to!

MuthaFunka said:

LMAO. "Reduced to"? Nah, I've been laughing AT you since your first post.

When you figure out that first-team is better than second-team, we'll talk. When you find out what a point guard does, we'll talk. When I need another laugh, we'll talk.

Until then, YOU'RE done. See ya, kid!

RodeoSchro said:

See, Moonbeam: Now I have this rodeo kid completely omitting weak-ass Rafer Alston from his argument because I showed him how ridiculous that was to even TRY and introduce that scrub as a factor as to why the Rockets aren't shit in the playoffs - as usual.

Graycap23 said:[quote]

july said:

Ain't it? Damn shame he went that young. Dude had guts like hell as a baller.

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Graycap23 said:

Three-time NBA champion, money player, terrfic defender(Magic will tell you that).