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Reply #30 posted 04/15/08 2:18am

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Lammastide said:

dag said:


ok, so which one of these do you feel is the best one:
credible
average
unremarkable
mediocre

It depends.

Denotatively -- and by way of etymology -- incredible actually means "unbelievable." In that sense, credible gets my vote as the most appropriate antonym in this list.

But people use the word incredible to mean all sorts of things these days -- "extraordinary,""amazing," "wonderful," etc. If you're considering this more colloquial angle, any of these would work as a dynamic opposite.

Thanks, guys!!! I appreciate it!
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Reply #31 posted 04/15/08 3:10am

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I would have said unincredible, but it appears that is not a word lol

You don't actually want native English peaople, you need people who have studied English, which as a native I have clearly never done.
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Reply #32 posted 04/15/08 4:57am

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dag said:

Lammastide said:


It depends.

Denotatively -- and by way of etymology -- incredible actually means "unbelievable." In that sense, credible gets my vote as the most appropriate antonym in this list.

But people use the word incredible to mean all sorts of things these days -- "extraordinary,""amazing," "wonderful," etc. If you're considering this more colloquial angle, any of these would work as a dynamic opposite.

Thanks, guys!!! I appreciate it!
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You should know better than ask a serious question in here they are all SO MEAN!!!

yes credible is the opposite of incredible as described above. I dont agree with wonderful at all, something that is wonderful is not incredible - two very different sentiments.

Incredible is almost beyond belief, something wonderful is worthy of your wonder i.e. awe

'A waterfall can be both incredible and wonderful'

It can be wonderful, in that it is awesome and perhaps breathtaking in its beauty and magnitude. However it can also be incredible in that you cannot perceive how it came into being and over what period of time etc.

so to say wonderful is the same as incredible, i think is incorrect.

incredible is the next stage to the sensation unbelievable.

Incredible is ALMOST beyond reason, unbelievable is BEYOND reason.


example: The org is incredible but at times the people in it are also unbelievable!

hope that helps! lol


ps as a good example would you think 'MR Incredible' would have had the same impact if had been called 'Mr Wonderful'? Uh UH!
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Reply #33 posted 04/15/08 7:20am

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syble said:

dag said:


Thanks, guys!!! I appreciate it!
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You should know better than ask a serious question in here they are all SO MEAN!!!

yes credible is the opposite of incredible as described above. I dont agree with wonderful at all, something that is wonderful is not incredible - two very different sentiments.

Incredible is almost beyond belief, something wonderful is worthy of your wonder i.e. awe

'A waterfall can be both incredible and wonderful'

It can be wonderful, in that it is awesome and perhaps breathtaking in its beauty and magnitude. However it can also be incredible in that you cannot perceive how it came into being and over what period of time etc.

so to say wonderful is the same as incredible, i think is incorrect.

incredible is the next stage to the sensation unbelievable.

Incredible is ALMOST beyond reason, unbelievable is BEYOND reason.


example: The org is incredible but at times the people in it are also unbelievable!

hope that helps! lol


ps as a good example would you think 'MR Incredible' would have had the same impact if had been called 'Mr Wonderful'? Uh UH!

Thanks, guys.
Here´s one more thing.
In these lyrics, who does Jamiroquai refer to?

Cosmic Girl

I must've died and gone
to heaven
Cos it was a quarter past eleven
On a saturday in 1999
Right across from where
I'm standing
On the dance floor she
was landing
It was clear that she
was from another time
Like some baby Barbella
With the stars as her umbrella
She asked me if I'd
like to magnetise
Do I have to go star-trekking
Cos it's you I should
be checking
So the lazer beamed me
with her cosmic eyes

Chorus:
She's just a cosmic girl
From another galaxy
My heart's at zero gravity
She's from a cosmic world
Putting me in ecstasy
Transmitting on my frequency
She's cosmic

I'm scanning all my radars
Well she said she's
from a quastar
Forty thousand million
light years away
It's a distant solar system
I tried to phone but
They don't list 'em
So I asked her for a
number all the same
She said, step in
my transporter
So I can teleport ya
All around my heavenly body
This could be a
close encounter
I should take care
not to flounder

Sends me into hyperspace,
when I see her pretty face

Chorus:

She's just a cosmic girl
From another galaxy
Transmitting on my frequency
Can't you be my cosmic woman?
I need you, I want you to
be my cosmic girl
For the rest of time


Who is Barbarela? I´ve searched the net and came only across a woman who has been first sentenced to death at Sing Sing prison and I doubt it´s her he´s refering to. lol
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Reply #34 posted 04/15/08 7:30am

jonylawson

cclassic jane fonda film BARBARELLA

prince loves it too
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Reply #35 posted 04/15/08 7:37am

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dag said:



Cosmic Girl

I must've died and gone
to heaven
Cos it was a quarter past eleven
On a saturday in 1999
Right across from where
I'm standing
On the dance floor she
was landing
It was clear that she
was from another time
Like some baby Barbella
With the stars as her umbrella
She asked me if I'd
like to magnetise
Do I have to go star-trekking
Cos it's you I should
be checking
So the lazer beamed me
with her cosmic eyes




Who is Barbarela? I´ve searched the net and came only across a woman who has been first sentenced to death at Sing Sing prison and I doubt it´s her he´s refering to. lol




Obviously a reference to Prince's keyboardist from the prince & D&P days: Tommy Barbarella! lol

Okay, seriously, I think it refers to a movie that Jane Fonda was in called Barbarella (from the 60s?): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/
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Reply #36 posted 04/15/08 7:48am

syble

yep definately Babarella!

Jane Fonda wierdy 60s fantasy film with loads of dodgy 'get the girl naked' bits and silver, glitter etc quite a cult film, and fits with the theme of space in this song.

Worth a view but quite long and VERY STRANGE!!
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Reply #37 posted 04/15/08 10:33am

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DevotedPuppy said:

dag said:



Cosmic Girl

I must've died and gone
to heaven
Cos it was a quarter past eleven
On a saturday in 1999
Right across from where
I'm standing
On the dance floor she
was landing
It was clear that she
was from another time
Like some baby Barbella
With the stars as her umbrella
She asked me if I'd
like to magnetise
Do I have to go star-trekking
Cos it's you I should
be checking
So the lazer beamed me
with her cosmic eyes




Who is Barbarela? I´ve searched the net and came only across a woman who has been first sentenced to death at Sing Sing prison and I doubt it´s her he´s refering to. lol




Obviously a reference to Prince's keyboardist from the prince & D&P days: Tommy Barbarella! lol

Okay, seriously, I think it refers to a movie that Jane Fonda was in called Barbarella (from the 60s?): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/

Wow! Tommy actually looks kinda good there. But I've always thought bruh needed a haircut.
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #38 posted 04/15/08 11:00am

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Lammastide said:


Wow! Tommy actually looks kinda good there. But I've always thought bruh needed a haircut.


I wanted a cheesier pic with more flowing hair, but thanks to Websheriff and the internet crack-down the Org gallery has been decimated, so this was the best I could find. confused
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Reply #39 posted 04/15/08 11:43pm

dag

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DevotedPuppy said:

dag said:



Cosmic Girl

I must've died and gone
to heaven
Cos it was a quarter past eleven
On a saturday in 1999
Right across from where
I'm standing
On the dance floor she
was landing
It was clear that she
was from another time
Like some baby Barbella
With the stars as her umbrella
She asked me if I'd
like to magnetise
Do I have to go star-trekking
Cos it's you I should
be checking
So the lazer beamed me
with her cosmic eyes




Who is Barbarela? I´ve searched the net and came only across a woman who has been first sentenced to death at Sing Sing prison and I doubt it´s her he´s refering to. lol




Obviously a reference to Prince's keyboardist from the prince & D&P days: Tommy Barbarella! lol

Okay, seriously, I think it refers to a movie that Jane Fonda was in called Barbarella (from the 60s?): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062711/

Thank you, guys! You´re the best!
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Reply #40 posted 04/16/08 2:21am

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I empathise with you and the words advised to use I would have gone along with too. I am having to ITC classes on the odd occasion and it's incredibly difficult sometimes to explain definitions of words, particularly to kids. I had to explain to them what a fantasy story was! It's more difficult than you think.
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Reply #41 posted 04/16/08 3:32am

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JDInteractive said:

I empathise with you and the words advised to use I would have gone along with too. I am having to ITC classes on the odd occasion and it's incredibly difficult sometimes to explain definitions of words, particularly to kids. I had to explain to them what a fantasy story was! It's more difficult than you think.

Yeah, tell me about it. Especially when English ain´t your mother tongue, it is very hard to decide the most appropriate term for some things.
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Reply #42 posted 04/16/08 3:36am

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dag said:

I am teaching English at an elementary school putting together an exercise for my students and I was wondering what is the oppossite of incredible.


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Reply #43 posted 04/21/08 1:49pm

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One more thing:
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Under The Bridge

Sometimes I feel
Like I dont have a partner
Sometimes I feel
Like my only friend
Is the city I live in
The city of angel
Lonely as I am
Together we cry

I drive on her streets
cause shes my companion
I walk through her hills
cause she knows who I am
She sees my good deeds
And she kisses me windy
I never worry
Now that is a lie

I dont ever want to feel
Like I did that day
Take me to the place I love
Take me all the way

Its hard to believe
That theres nobody out there
Its hard to believe
That Im all alone
At least I have her love
The city she loves me
Lonely as I am
Together we cry

I dont ever want to feel
Like I did that day
Take me to the place I love
Take me all the way

Under the bridge downtown
Is where I drew some blood
Under the bridge downtown
I could not get enough
Under the bridge downtown
Forgot about my love
Under the bridge downtown
I gave my life away


What means "drew some blood"?
What is it that he can´t get enough?
By "I gave my life away", does he mean that he wasted his life?

Thanks
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Reply #44 posted 04/21/08 1:53pm

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JustErin said:

dag said:


ok, so which one of these do you feel is the best one:
credible
average
unremarkable
mediocre


I think unremarkable works best.


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Reply #45 posted 04/21/08 2:01pm

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dag said:

One more thing:
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Under The Bridge

Sometimes I feel
Like I dont have a partner
Sometimes I feel
Like my only friend
Is the city I live in
The city of angel
Lonely as I am
Together we cry

I drive on her streets
cause shes my companion
I walk through her hills
cause she knows who I am
She sees my good deeds
And she kisses me windy
I never worry
Now that is a lie

I dont ever want to feel
Like I did that day
Take me to the place I love
Take me all the way

Its hard to believe
That theres nobody out there
Its hard to believe
That Im all alone
At least I have her love
The city she loves me
Lonely as I am
Together we cry

I dont ever want to feel
Like I did that day
Take me to the place I love
Take me all the way

Under the bridge downtown
Is where I drew some blood
Under the bridge downtown
I could not get enough
Under the bridge downtown
Forgot about my love
Under the bridge downtown
I gave my life away


What means "drew some blood"?
What is it that he can´t get enough?
By "I gave my life away", does he mean that he wasted his life?

Thanks


Heroin.
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Reply #46 posted 04/21/08 2:05pm

dag

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FunkMistress said:

dag said:

One more thing:
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Under The Bridge

Sometimes I feel
Like I dont have a partner
Sometimes I feel
Like my only friend
Is the city I live in
The city of angel
Lonely as I am
Together we cry

I drive on her streets
cause shes my companion
I walk through her hills
cause she knows who I am
She sees my good deeds
And she kisses me windy
I never worry
Now that is a lie

I dont ever want to feel
Like I did that day
Take me to the place I love
Take me all the way

Its hard to believe
That theres nobody out there
Its hard to believe
That Im all alone
At least I have her love
The city she loves me
Lonely as I am
Together we cry

I dont ever want to feel
Like I did that day
Take me to the place I love
Take me all the way

Under the bridge downtown
Is where I drew some blood
Under the bridge downtown
I could not get enough
Under the bridge downtown
Forgot about my love
Under the bridge downtown
I gave my life away


What means "drew some blood"?
What is it that he can´t get enough?
By "I gave my life away", does he mean that he wasted his life?

Thanks


Heroin.

Wait a minute. That totally mixed me up. Throughout the whole song, he sings about his love for the town, doesn´t he? And the last verse is about him regreting taking heroin? Someone please explain.
[Edited 4/21/08 14:06pm]
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Reply #47 posted 04/21/08 3:19pm

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dag said:

FunkMistress said:



Heroin.

Wait a minute. That totally mixed me up. Throughout the whole song, he sings about his love for the town, doesn´t he? And the last verse is about him regreting taking heroin? Someone please explain.
[Edited 4/21/08 14:06pm]


He used to be a junkie.

"Drew some blood" is the process of drawing blood into the needle to mix it with the H and then re-injecting it into one's arm.

As a former junkie of course he regrets being addicted to H especially considering how it can destroy you.

Despite all of this, he still loves L.A.

The whole song is a metaphor about his mixed feelings for L.A. what it's done for him and to him. One of their greatest lyrically and musically.

(p.s. This is all just my opinion and I've been wrong before.)
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Reply #48 posted 04/21/08 11:55pm

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RenHoek said:

dag said:


Wait a minute. That totally mixed me up. Throughout the whole song, he sings about his love for the town, doesn´t he? And the last verse is about him regreting taking heroin? Someone please explain.
[Edited 4/21/08 14:06pm]


He used to be a junkie.

"Drew some blood" is the process of drawing blood into the needle to mix it with the H and then re-injecting it into one's arm.

As a former junkie of course he regrets being addicted to H especially considering how it can destroy you.

Despite all of this, he still loves L.A.

The whole song is a metaphor about his mixed feelings for L.A. what it's done for him and to him. One of their greatest lyrically and musically.

(p.s. This is all just my opinion and I've been wrong before.)

Thanks a lot. It makes sense!


And hopefully the last one:
Ozzy Osbourne - Mama I´m Coming Home
Times have changed and times are strange
Here I come, but I aint the same
Mama, Im coming home
Times gone by seem to be
You could have been a better friend to me
Mama, Im coming home

You took me in and you drove me out
Yeah, you had me hypnotized
Lost and found and turned aroound
By the fire in your eyes


You made me cry, you told me lies
But I cant stand to say goodbye
Mama, Im coming home
I could be right, I could be wrong
Hurts so bad, its been so long

Mama, Im coming home

Selfish love yeah were both alone
The ride before the fall
But Im gonna take this heart of stone
I just got to have it all


Chorus
Ive seen your face a hundred times
Everyday weve been apart
I dont care about the sunshine, yeah
cause mama, mama, Im coming home
Im coming home

You took me in and you drove me out
Yeah, you had me hypnotized
Lost and found and turned around
By the fire in your eyes

Is this about his ex-girlfriend who has cheated on him which has changed him and that now he´s coming home? or are there drugs again somewhere hidden in the text?
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Reply #49 posted 04/22/08 1:54am

syble

more likely about drugs too! seeing as its Ozzy

theres no mention of a girlfriend in this song.

you coulda been a better friend... seems to refer to 'times' in the previous line


you had me hypnotised, lost and found


sounds like the ups and downs of drugs to me.


which is why its a plea to his momma that hes coming home changed.


selfish love yeah we're both alone


ride before the fall...



all about drugs.




Im now interested in how you interpret Princes lyrics?
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Reply #50 posted 04/22/08 2:09am

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syble said:

more likely about drugs too! seeing as its Ozzy

theres no mention of a girlfriend in this song.

you coulda been a better friend... seems to refer to 'times' in the previous line


you had me hypnotised, lost and found


sounds like the ups and downs of drugs to me.


which is why its a plea to his momma that hes coming home changed.


selfish love yeah we're both alone


ride before the fall...



all about drugs.




Im now interested in how you interpret Princes lyrics?

I don´t. lol I just listen to his music.
lol Most of the time.

I am not good at understanding poetry and stuff like that.

But I gotta do this, cause it´s for my diploma thesis, so i gotta make sure I understand it right.
So you think that times and friend refer to the same thing? That he means that the times of him using drugs could have been better?
And who is the person or thing taking him in and driving him out. And if there is no person, why he means by "eyes".
Lost and found and turned aroound
By the fire in your eyes

And whose face has he seen a thousand times?
Damn, I am lost completely.

Thanks for the info though.
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Reply #51 posted 04/22/08 2:36am

syble

dag said:




And hopefully the last one:
Ozzy Osbourne - Mama I´m Coming Home

Times have changed and times are strange
his life has changed over time and his current state is strange

Here I come, but I aint the same
Hes preparing his mama that he aint the same as when he left
Mama, Im coming home
Times gone by seem to be
You could have been a better friend to me
Time itself could have been kinda to him or so it seems to him
Mama, Im coming home

You took me in and you drove me out
the drug persuaded him and drove his true self out thus replacing 'him'
Yeah, you had me hypnotized
Lost and found and turned aroound
By the fire in your eyes
the drug had him in its grasp, he felt lost without it, and then comforted and then dazzled by its lure (the fire in your eyes)

You made me cry, you told me lies
But I cant stand to say goodbye
The drug made him feel shit, it pretended to make him fel well again but that ws a lie and he finds it impossible to withdraw from it and leave the drug alone despite its effect upon his life

Mama, Im coming home
I could be right, I could be wrong
Hurts so bad, its been so long
The uncertainty of the relevation that the drugs are ruining his life, he feels unsure about his decision nevertheless he is returning to the safety of his mama
Mama, Im coming home

Selfish love yeah were both alone
Drug taking is a selfish act and he is alone with that torment and the drugs
The ride before the fall
the high from drugs before the wasteland of coming down and feeling shit
But Im gonna take this heart of stone
I just got to have it all

This i find more ambiguous - could mean hes taking his hardened heart home to his mama for comfort and the 'got to have it all' bit could mean that he wants a complete life instead of the half-life his drug years have created.

Chorus
Ive seen your face a hundred times
Everyday weve been apart

Again ambiguous but I think intentionally so, I think this means literally hes seen his mamas face through all of this as his rock and now that is why hes going back to her for help, I think it also represents the drug as in while now not taking it and trying to rehab and get turned around, he still sees the spechtre of the drug personified with the word 'face'. Not a literal face but that gives a substance to the 'thing' drugs.
I dont care about the sunshine, yeah
cause mama, mama, Im coming home
Im coming home

You took me in and you drove me out
Yeah, you had me hypnotized
Lost and found and turned around
By the fire in your eyes



Of course it could be that the use of 'mama' is in fact a description also of the drug, if you decide that he is not refering to his mama in a literal sense but that the entire song is about his relationship with the drug it also makes sense.

In that case, times gone by you coula been a better friend to me... could literally be a direct accusational cry to the drug 'mama'.

He is dependent upon it like a mama, it nutures him at time and feels he has to go back to it. that could be what the choraus, Im coming home' is about. It could be totally about his return to drugs.

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There you now have two possible interpretations of this song. Now I know its for a thesis it makes sense your rather odd mix of music.


Of course all of this is my interpretation of the lyrics, others may disagree, but I think these two possibilities make the most sense.
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Reply #52 posted 04/22/08 3:11am

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syble said:

dag said:




And hopefully the last one:
Ozzy Osbourne - Mama I´m Coming Home

Times have changed and times are strange
his life has changed over time and his current state is strange

Here I come, but I aint the same
Hes preparing his mama that he aint the same as when he left
Mama, Im coming home
Times gone by seem to be
You could have been a better friend to me
Time itself could have been kinda to him or so it seems to him
Mama, Im coming home

You took me in and you drove me out
the drug persuaded him and drove his true self out thus replacing 'him'
Yeah, you had me hypnotized
Lost and found and turned aroound
By the fire in your eyes
the drug had him in its grasp, he felt lost without it, and then comforted and then dazzled by its lure (the fire in your eyes)

You made me cry, you told me lies
But I cant stand to say goodbye
The drug made him feel shit, it pretended to make him fel well again but that ws a lie and he finds it impossible to withdraw from it and leave the drug alone despite its effect upon his life

Mama, Im coming home
I could be right, I could be wrong
Hurts so bad, its been so long
The uncertainty of the relevation that the drugs are ruining his life, he feels unsure about his decision nevertheless he is returning to the safety of his mama
Mama, Im coming home

Selfish love yeah were both alone
Drug taking is a selfish act and he is alone with that torment and the drugs
The ride before the fall
the high from drugs before the wasteland of coming down and feeling shit
But Im gonna take this heart of stone
I just got to have it all

This i find more ambiguous - could mean hes taking his hardened heart home to his mama for comfort and the 'got to have it all' bit could mean that he wants a complete life instead of the half-life his drug years have created.

Chorus
Ive seen your face a hundred times
Everyday weve been apart

Again ambiguous but I think intentionally so, I think this means literally hes seen his mamas face through all of this as his rock and now that is why hes going back to her for help, I think it also represents the drug as in while now not taking it and trying to rehab and get turned around, he still sees the spechtre of the drug personified with the word 'face'. Not a literal face but that gives a substance to the 'thing' drugs.
I dont care about the sunshine, yeah
cause mama, mama, Im coming home
Im coming home

You took me in and you drove me out
Yeah, you had me hypnotized
Lost and found and turned around
By the fire in your eyes



Of course it could be that the use of 'mama' is in fact a description also of the drug, if you decide that he is not refering to his mama in a literal sense but that the entire song is about his relationship with the drug it also makes sense.

In that case, times gone by you coula been a better friend to me... could literally be a direct accusational cry to the drug 'mama'.

He is dependent upon it like a mama, it nutures him at time and feels he has to go back to it. that could be what the choraus, Im coming home' is about. It could be totally about his return to drugs.

[b]




There you now have two possible interpretations of this song. Now I know its for a thesis it makes sense your rather odd mix of music.


Of course all of this is my interpretation of the lyrics, others may disagree, but I think these two possibilities make the most sense.

Well, my goal for the diploma thesis is to teach English vocabulary through music and see if it would help the students to learn the words better. And the selection is based on the student´s taste. Some of the students listen Korn, Lordi, Iron maiden and Black Sabbath and this song along with Red Hot Chili Peppers´ seemed to be the easiest as far as grammar and vocabulary is concerned, but I do realize that their meaning is deeper than what it may seem, but I have troubles figuring it out sometimes.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the analysis. It makes sense to me.
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Reply #53 posted 04/22/08 3:23am

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anytime dag! biggrin
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syble said:

anytime dag! biggrin

ah, thank you sooooo much!
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Reply #55 posted 05/14/08 11:48pm

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I´ve got another question.

I´ma give you the world.
What does "I´ma" mean? Is it "I am gonna"?

And what does the phrase "papa was a rolling stone" mean? Does it mean "dad was famous"?
[Edited 5/14/08 23:50pm]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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dag said:

I´ve got another question.

I´ma give you the world.
What does "I´ma" mean? Is it "I am gonna"?

And what does the phrase "papa was a rolling stone" mean? Does it mean "dad was famous"?
[Edited 5/14/08 23:50pm]


"I am gonna"

Should be "I am going to"

I don't know about the second one.
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PREDOMINANT said:

dag said:

I´ve got another question.

I´ma give you the world.
What does "I´ma" mean? Is it "I am gonna"?

And what does the phrase "papa was a rolling stone" mean? Does it mean "dad was famous"?
[Edited 5/14/08 23:50pm]


"I am gonna"

Should be "I am going to"

I don't know about the second one.


It´s from this song:
EMINEM
Mockingbird

I. Fill in the missing words:

Yeah...
I know_____, things may not always make sense to you right now
But hey, what daddy always tell you?
Straighten up little soldier - stiffen up that upper lip
What you cryin about? You got me

(First verse)
Hailie I know _____miss your mom, and I know you miss your dad
when I'm gone but I'm tryin to give you the life that I never had
I can see you're sad, even when you _____, even when you laugh
I can see it in your eyes, deep inside you wanna cry
Cause you're scared, I ain't there, daddy's with you in your prayers
No more cryin, wipe them tears, daddy's here no more nightmares
We gon' pull together through it, we gon' do it
Laney, Uncle's crazy ain't he yeah but he loves you girl and you better know it
We're all we got it this world, when it spins, when it swirls
When it whirls, when it twirls, two little beautiful girls
Lookin puzzled, in a daze, I know it's confusin you
Daddy's always on the move, mama's always on the news
I try to keep up sheltered from it, but somehow it seems
the harder that I try to do that the more it backfires on me
All the things growin up as Daddy that he had to see
Daddy don't want you to see but you see just as much as he did
We did not plan it to be this way, your mother and me
But things have got so bad between us, I don't see us ever bein
together ever again, like we used to _____ when we was teenagers
But then of course everything always happens for a reason
I guess it was never meant to be
But it's just somethin that we have no control over and that's what destiny ____
But no more worries, rest your head and go to sleep
Maybe one day we'll wake up and this'll all just be a dream

[Chorus]
Now hush little baby, don't you cry
Everything's gonna be alright
Stiffen that upper lip up little lady, I told ya
Daddy's here to hold ya through the night
I know mommy's not here right now and we don't know _____
We feel how we feel inside
It may seem a little_____, pretty baby
But I promise, momma's gon' be alright


(Second verse)
it's funny
I remember back one year when daddy had no money
Mommy wrapped the Christmas presents up and stuck 'em under the tree
and said some of 'em weren't from me, cause daddy couldn't buy 'em
I'll never forget that Christmas I sat up the whole night cryin
Cause daddy felt like a bum, see daddy had a job
But his job was to keep the food on the table for you and mom
And at the time, every house that we lived in
Either kept gettin broken into and robbed or shot up on the block
And your mom, was savin money for you in a jar
Tryin to start a piggy bank for you so you could go to college
Almost had a thousand _____, 'til someone broke in and stole it
And I know it hurt so bad it broke your momma's heart
And it seemed like everything was just startin to fall apart
Mom and dad was arguin a lot so momma moved back
on the Chalmers in the flat, one bedroom apartment
And dad moved back to the other side of 8 Mile on Novara

And that's when daddy went to California with his _____
and met Dr. Dre, and flew you and momma out to see me
But daddy had to work, you and momma had to leave me
Then you started seein daddy on the ____
And momma didn't like it, and you and Laney were too young to understand it
Papa was a rollin stone, momma developed a habit
And it all happened too fast for either one of us to grab it
I'm just sorry you were there and had to witness it first hand
Cause all I ever wanted to do was just make you proud
Now I'm sittin in this empty house, just reminiscin
Lookin at your baby pictures, it just trips me out
To see how much you both have grown, it's almost like you're sisters now
Wow, guess you pretty much are, and daddy's still here
Laney I'm talkin to you too, daddy's still here
I like the sound of that, yeah, it's got a ring to it don't it?
Shh, momma's only gone for the moment

[Chorus]

(Third verse)
And if you ask me to daddy's gonna buy you a mockingbird
I'ma give you the world
I'ma buy a diamond ring for you, I'ma sing for you
I'll do anything for you to see you smile
And if that mockingbird don't _____and that ring don't shine
I'ma break that birdie's neck
I'd go back to the jeweler who sold it to ya
And make him eat every carat, don't fuck with dad
Ha ha!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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dag said:

PREDOMINANT said:



"I am gonna"

Should be "I am going to"

I don't know about the second one.


It´s from this song:
EMINEM
Mockingbird

I. Fill in the missing words:

Yeah...
I know_____, things may not always make sense to you right now
But hey, what daddy always tell you?
Straighten up little soldier - stiffen up that upper lip
What you cryin about? You got me

(First verse)
Hailie I know _____miss your mom, and I know you miss your dad
when I'm gone but I'm tryin to give you the life that I never had
I can see you're sad, even when you _____, even when you laugh
I can see it in your eyes, deep inside you wanna cry
Cause you're scared, I ain't there, daddy's with you in your prayers
No more cryin, wipe them tears, daddy's here no more nightmares
We gon' pull together through it, we gon' do it
Laney, Uncle's crazy ain't he yeah but he loves you girl and you better know it
We're all we got it this world, when it spins, when it swirls
When it whirls, when it twirls, two little beautiful girls
Lookin puzzled, in a daze, I know it's confusin you
Daddy's always on the move, mama's always on the news
I try to keep up sheltered from it, but somehow it seems
the harder that I try to do that the more it backfires on me
All the things growin up as Daddy that he had to see
Daddy don't want you to see but you see just as much as he did
We did not plan it to be this way, your mother and me
But things have got so bad between us, I don't see us ever bein
together ever again, like we used to _____ when we was teenagers
But then of course everything always happens for a reason
I guess it was never meant to be
But it's just somethin that we have no control over and that's what destiny ____
But no more worries, rest your head and go to sleep
Maybe one day we'll wake up and this'll all just be a dream

[Chorus]
Now hush little baby, don't you cry
Everything's gonna be alright
Stiffen that upper lip up little lady, I told ya
Daddy's here to hold ya through the night
I know mommy's not here right now and we don't know _____
We feel how we feel inside
It may seem a little_____, pretty baby
But I promise, momma's gon' be alright


(Second verse)
it's funny
I remember back one year when daddy had no money
Mommy wrapped the Christmas presents up and stuck 'em under the tree
and said some of 'em weren't from me, cause daddy couldn't buy 'em
I'll never forget that Christmas I sat up the whole night cryin
Cause daddy felt like a bum, see daddy had a job
But his job was to keep the food on the table for you and mom
And at the time, every house that we lived in
Either kept gettin broken into and robbed or shot up on the block
And your mom, was savin money for you in a jar
Tryin to start a piggy bank for you so you could go to college
Almost had a thousand _____, 'til someone broke in and stole it
And I know it hurt so bad it broke your momma's heart
And it seemed like everything was just startin to fall apart
Mom and dad was arguin a lot so momma moved back
on the Chalmers in the flat, one bedroom apartment
And dad moved back to the other side of 8 Mile on Novara

And that's when daddy went to California with his _____
and met Dr. Dre, and flew you and momma out to see me
But daddy had to work, you and momma had to leave me
Then you started seein daddy on the ____
And momma didn't like it, and you and Laney were too young to understand it
Papa was a rollin stone, momma developed a habit
And it all happened too fast for either one of us to grab it
I'm just sorry you were there and had to witness it first hand
Cause all I ever wanted to do was just make you proud
Now I'm sittin in this empty house, just reminiscin
Lookin at your baby pictures, it just trips me out
To see how much you both have grown, it's almost like you're sisters now
Wow, guess you pretty much are, and daddy's still here
Laney I'm talkin to you too, daddy's still here
I like the sound of that, yeah, it's got a ring to it don't it?
Shh, momma's only gone for the moment

[Chorus]

(Third verse)
And if you ask me to daddy's gonna buy you a mockingbird
I'ma give you the world
I'ma buy a diamond ring for you, I'ma sing for you
I'll do anything for you to see you smile
And if that mockingbird don't _____and that ring don't shine
I'ma break that birdie's neck
I'd go back to the jeweler who sold it to ya
And make him eat every carat, don't fuck with dad
Ha ha!



A "rolling stone" is a phrase used to describe a person who tends to wander and never sets solid roots down in one place.

Say for instance if you might have a friend that constantly travels or moves. They never live in one place for very long because they are the restless type that is easily bored, and always in search of a new place to excite them. As a rule it's usually quite difficult for them to maintain personal relationships because they get more satisfaction in movement than attaching themselves to people.

When one says "papa was a rolling stone", they are referring to an absentee father (that had little or no interest in building a family life).

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PREDOMINANT said:

I would have said unincredible, but it appears that is not a word lol

You don't actually want native English peaople, you need people who have studied English, which as a native I have clearly never done.



Indeed. There are pockets on non-ethnic, white English people who can barely speak at all, let alone full sentences and proper grammar like what you and I talks.
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