NDRU said:

See, here I am again thinking about the border cities. I've never lived in SF itself, always Oakland or some other surrounding city. SF is expensive, up there w/ NY. But when we talk LA, what part are we really talking? That's my problem, I think of LA as that whole glob of cities/border cities which I guess I shouldn't

CalhounSq said:

It could have changed.....my info is old. I think currently N.Y. and Frisco are both more expensive than L.A. but not by much.

CalhounSq said:

Exactly, if you thought of SF in the same terms as "LA," then you could be talking about living in San Jose or Hayward.

Why are people saying NYC has crappy winters? We got NO snow this year. NONE. The temperature never goes below zero degrees F. In fact, I can count on one hand when it hit single digits this past winter. Minneapolis has crappy winters. Buffalo has crappy winters. Any eastern Canadian city has crappy winters. NYC doesn't.

sextonseven said:

They must be thinking of upstate NY. NYC doesn't get snow like upstate NY gets

sextonseven said:

No we didn't. I don't think we've had any snow or much snow the last 2 winters. It hasn't even been as cold as it has been in the past.

JessieJ said:

Buffalo is the worst! It seems like that city is under two feet of snow non-stop from December to February.

sextonseven said:

I was wondering the same thing, you get winter, but it isn't that bad. New Jersey wasn't terrible either. Boston? Shit, that's a shitty winter.

sextonseven said:

Buffalo is no joke. I would never be able to live there. Lake effect snow sucks!

sextonseven said:

right, it's the crappy summers!

sextonseven said:

I'm a spoiled Cali girl, anything more than a few rainy days is crappy to me

superspaceboy said:

We have museums.

sextonseven said:

Rub it in, will ya?

JustErin said:

But you have more opportunities to invite guys over to keep you warm.

NDRU said:

NYC summers are humid and smelly.

sextonseven said:

It was June when I was in NYC I think and it rained nearly all the time for the 2 weeks I was there .
Apart from that it was okay, but not nearly as impressive as I imagined it to be. The things I disliked the most was the noise and the long distances. I have never been to LA, but I don't think I would like it there. If I had to choose I'd visit NY again, because I would meet you .

sextonseven said:

subways in the summer must be a treat!

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Serious said:

The day you visit NY again would be a great day.

What do you mean by long distances?

sextonseven said:

That it takes you forever to go from one place to another. I know LA must be even worse . But I hated all these hours I spent in the subway .

NDRU said:

You have no idea. The subway cars are air-conditioned, but there will always be that one mysteriously empty car that only after you walk in, you realize is a furnace. And you don't really smell the homeless people that live in the subway in the winter, but in the summer you want to be as far away from them as possible.

Serious said:

Hours spent in the subway? Where were you staying when you were in NY?

sextonseven said:

At a friend's apartment in Brooklyn. I remember it took me at least an hour in one direction to go to the Bronx zoo .

Serious said:

Next time you need to stay with someone that lives in Manhattan (that isn't me, sorry). Everything worth seeing is no more than a 20-minute subway ride away.

sextonseven said:

I don't know anyone who lives in Manhattan . And I liked Brooklyn, apart from the noise. It reminded me a lot of London and I love London ! The friend I stayed with just sent me a message yesterday after I haven't heard from him in a long time that he is looking for work in NY (he has been in Florida the last years I think), but I am very sure he won't move to Manhattan .

I've lived in So Cal damn near all of my life. Apart for living in New York for about 7 months. I've been to New York several times. I'm not going to bash New York because I've lived in California. I LOVE New York. U have people who bash California and they have never even been here before. It's been "hip" to hate on California for years. That shit's been played out. It's the "I'll just say what everybody else says about California" type thing when really they have no clue cuz like I stated, they've never ever stepped foot here. NY and L.A. has similarities like many big cities have. Great nightlife, great places to eat, etc. All major cities have that. But to answer the question; If u dig warm weather and great beaches, definately L.A. If u dig culture, tall buildings and serious hustle and bustle, New York.

Serious said:

You need to earn a lot of money or have five roomates and live in a closet to live in Manhattan. Where I am is quiet. Except on Saturday nights in the summer.

sextonseven said:

Where are you?

sextonseven said:

You can still find some steals in Harlem.

Serious said:

I am in Queens--specifically Richmond Hill/Kew Gardens. Want to visit? I just cleaned my apartment yesterday.

It might take you the same amount of time to get to the Bronx Zoo by subway, though.

Twiki said:

What's going on in the west side? With all the land that Columbia took over?