VoicesCarry said:

i tried for a long time to make a nogogomus realtionship work. what hindered it aside from the two of us growing a in different dirctions was his unwillingness to be more open about trying new things sexually.

ehuffnsd said:

It's cool. It just means that the shift was acceptable within your limits. The limits of others will be different, naturally.

ehuffnsd said:

How so

VoicesCarry said:

i'm cut.

VoicesCarry said:

i guess. 5 and half years of an on again off again relationship takes it's toll. i'm taking the next two years or so not dating.

ehuffnsd said:

uhh...grilling tofu pups?

no, i see what you're saying, and if i were living in the same population as you, i would probably see a different attitude than i've encountered over the past six or seven years. you have to remember, i live in the midwest.

ehuffnsd said:

Oh, I thought you meant you couldn't participate in docking. You can still dock, technically, if you had an uncut boy up for some fun.

Wow! I just learned a new term! I had no idea what you guys meant by docking

Anxiety said:

you live in Chicago. SF, LA, Chicago, NY are the largest Leather Cities in the country. what are you talking about.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Did you look it up?

ehuffnsd said:

He moved to Minnie to be with a midwestern kitten!

VoicesCarry said:

No. When you mentioned foreskin it *clicked*

ehuffnsd said:

i haven't lived in chicago for nearly a year. catch up, boy!

and even in chicago, there was a huge distinction between the leather community and what was considered the "respectable" gay community. i'm sure you're aware of that kind of attitude. it was a lot easier to openly be part of a subculture in a place like NYC, where identity roles weren't so rigidly scrutinized.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ehuffnsd said:

I think it's a lot more realistic than marriage. But it all comes down to agreements. I don't think it should be so open where there is no committment to anyone or anything. I also think people put way too much gravity on sex in relationships.

Anxiety said:

ANd there is that too. Out here in San Fran is very different.

ehuffnsd said:

What's interesting is that Chicago has a leather community and IML is there etc. But I think they have very few leather bars.

Are leather bars going by the wayside? I think they are.

superspaceboy said:

Uh, no! for us sexual freaks it's very important

superspaceboy said:

there aren't many in SF either. the internet killed most of the Leather bar scene. however it's starting to make a comeback.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I know. Just because you're monogamous doesn't mean you're not having wild sex whenever and wherever you want.

matthewgrant said:

Amen to THAT!

purplecam said:

WTF IS DOCKING?

ehuffnsd said:

No uptown sux, Rainbow ragedy, Famous daves overprice, Cheapo's look like a salvation army store, and but they do have Popeyes and this Chinese joint I go to on Lake st a lot though!!!
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Stymie said:

http://www.urbandictionar...rm=docking

Stymie said:

Imagine there's no heaven.
It's easy if you try.

VoicesCarry said:

Okay. Next question is why?

Stymie said:

Mimics the feeling of foreskin for a cut guy. You can use the foreskin to stimulate both guys to orgasm.

VoicesCarry said:

Oh!!!! damn I wish I had a penis.

VoicesCarry said:

Now i have read it all!!!