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Life's A Drag... What's the Straight View? The term drag queen originates in Polari, a subset of English slang that was popular in some gay communities in the early part of the 20th century. Drag meant "clothes", and was also theatre slang for a woman's costume worn by a male actor. Queen refers to the trait of affected royalty found in many drag characters.
Another term for a drag queen, female impersonator, is still used—though it is often regarded as inaccurate, as many contemporary drag performers are not all attempting to pass as women. Female impersonation, under that name, used to be illegal in many places, which inspired the drag queen José Sarria to hand out labels to his friends reading "I am a boy," so they could not be accused of female impersonation.[1] American drag queen RuPaul once said "I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses?" He also said, "I don't dress like a woman; I dress like a drag queen!". And celebrity drag couple The Darling Bears go so far as to sport full beards for their performances. There are also performers who prefer to be called "gender illusionists" who do blur the line between transgender and drag queen. Generally transgender performers do not consider themselves to be drag queens and drag queens don't consider themselves to be illusionists but there are exceptions so if in doubt it's advisable to inquire what the performer prefers. Often these distinctions are more generational as laws and acceptance of individuality change and grow. Many drag queens prefer to be referred to as "she" while in drag and desire to stay completely in character. Some performers may be offended if they are referred to as "he" or by their legal name while in character. Drag performer RuPaul is one of the few exceptions to this rule, as he seems to be completely ambivalent to which pronoun is used to refer to him. In his words, "You can call me he. You can call me she. You can call me Regis and Kathie Lee; I don't care!"[2] Biological females performing as drag queens are referred to as faux queens or bio queens. What are you views on drag? You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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'drag queens' are artists, and I love them
They are performers and do not even necessarily have to be gay, just creative If you will, so will I | |
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drag queens and drag kings are awesome. i'm in favor of genderfuck artists in general, whether they're going for high camp as drag performers or if they're simply some crazy pop star dressed like the opposite sex and being dodgy about their sexuality. bring 'em all on, i think they're great. | |
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bump You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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I don't like them
They're like vulgar messed up clowns to me. I just don't. Sorry folks. | |
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Imago said: I don't like them
They're like vulgar messed up clowns to me. I just don't. Sorry folks. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Prince has pulled it off well for years... | |
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ehuffnsd said: Imago said: I don't like them
They're like vulgar messed up clowns to me. I just don't. Sorry folks. I'm not talking about the sisters of perpetual finess, Eric I just mean those vulgar mouthed drag queens in the gay bars. I just don't care for them. It's like watching Pennywise in pantyhose. SCARY! | |
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Imago said: ehuffnsd said: I'm not talking about the sisters of perpetual finess, Eric I just mean those vulgar mouthed drag queens in the gay bars. I just don't care for them. It's like watching Pennywise in pantyhose. SCARY! is that an invite to be my co-star? You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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I love them!!
R.I.P. Vina Las Vegas - She was a local drag queen that all the other drag queens couldn't say shit about. She was the only non-bitchy, non-jealous drag queen of them all and she treated everyone with respect. She passed many years ago. I was lucky to know her. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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ehuffnsd said: Imago said: I'm not talking about the sisters of perpetual finess, Eric I just mean those vulgar mouthed drag queens in the gay bars. I just don't care for them. It's like watching Pennywise in pantyhose. SCARY! is that an invite to be my co-star? How much does it pay again? | |
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Imago said: ehuffnsd said: I'm not talking about the sisters of perpetual finess, Eric I just mean those vulgar mouthed drag queens in the gay bars. I just don't care for them. It's like watching Pennywise in pantyhose. SCARY! I agree | |
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Mach said: Imago said: I'm not talking about the sisters of perpetual finess, Eric I just mean those vulgar mouthed drag queens in the gay bars. I just don't care for them. It's like watching Pennywise in pantyhose. SCARY! I agree I'm not saying they shouldn't do their THANG. you know? Anymore than I wouldn't want this or that entertainer to be denied of what they do. I'm just saying, it' ain't my bag. I just don't care for it | |
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Imago said: Mach said: I agree I'm not saying they shouldn't do their THANG. you know? Anymore than I wouldn't want this or that entertainer to be denied of what they do. I'm just saying, it' ain't my bag. I just don't care for it I agree | |
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I like the ones that really try and make a good show out of it. I would tend to agree with Imago on the average drag queen. I can do without them.
At least around here, alot of the drag queens, nice as they are have real confusion in their life. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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ehuffnsd said: The term drag queen originates in Polari, a subset of English slang that was popular in some gay communities in the early part of the 20th century. Drag meant "clothes", and was also theatre slang for a woman's costume worn by a male actor. Queen refers to the trait of affected royalty found in many drag characters.
Another term for a drag queen, female impersonator, is still used—though it is often regarded as inaccurate, as many contemporary drag performers are not all attempting to pass as women. Female impersonation, under that name, used to be illegal in many places, which inspired the drag queen José Sarria to hand out labels to his friends reading "I am a boy," so they could not be accused of female impersonation.[1] American drag queen RuPaul once said "I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses?" He also said, "I don't dress like a woman; I dress like a drag queen!". And celebrity drag couple The Darling Bears go so far as to sport full beards for their performances. There are also performers who prefer to be called "gender illusionists" who do blur the line between transgender and drag queen. Generally transgender performers do not consider themselves to be drag queens and drag queens don't consider themselves to be illusionists but there are exceptions so if in doubt it's advisable to inquire what the performer prefers. Often these distinctions are more generational as laws and acceptance of individuality change and grow. Many drag queens prefer to be referred to as "she" while in drag and desire to stay completely in character. Some performers may be offended if they are referred to as "he" or by their legal name while in character. Drag performer RuPaul is one of the few exceptions to this rule, as he seems to be completely ambivalent to which pronoun is used to refer to him. In his words, "You can call me he. You can call me she. You can call me Regis and Kathie Lee; I don't care!"[2] Biological females performing as drag queens are referred to as faux queens or bio queens. What are you views on drag? Wow, this was some interesting stuff to know. Personally, I don't have many views on drag, except that it exist and it's a world unto itself. It takes a lot, I've seen the docs on festivals and competitions, it was interesting, but I don't have any personal experience with it, not by rejection just it never came my way I guess, and I never purposely seeked it out. | |
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ehuffnsd said: I made it through 1:45. Now I hate drag queens. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Mars23 said: ehuffnsd said: I made it through 1:45. Now I hate drag queens. Varla is fierce!!! You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: Mars23 said: I made it through 1:45. Now I hate drag queens. Varla is fierce!!! Oh my God, how genius is she in GIRLS WILL BE GIRLS? I love her. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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ehuffnsd said: The term drag queen originates in Polari, a subset of English slang that was popular in some gay communities in the early part of the 20th century. Drag meant "clothes", and was also theatre slang for a woman's costume worn by a male actor. Queen refers to the trait of affected royalty found in many drag characters.
Another term for a drag queen, female impersonator, is still used—though it is often regarded as inaccurate, as many contemporary drag performers are not all attempting to pass as women. Female impersonation, under that name, used to be illegal in many places, which inspired the drag queen José Sarria to hand out labels to his friends reading "I am a boy," so they could not be accused of female impersonation.[1] American drag queen RuPaul once said "I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses?" He also said, "I don't dress like a woman; I dress like a drag queen!". And celebrity drag couple The Darling Bears go so far as to sport full beards for their performances. There are also performers who prefer to be called "gender illusionists" who do blur the line between transgender and drag queen. Generally transgender performers do not consider themselves to be drag queens and drag queens don't consider themselves to be illusionists but there are exceptions so if in doubt it's advisable to inquire what the performer prefers. Often these distinctions are more generational as laws and acceptance of individuality change and grow. Many drag queens prefer to be referred to as "she" while in drag and desire to stay completely in character. Some performers may be offended if they are referred to as "he" or by their legal name while in character. Drag performer RuPaul is one of the few exceptions to this rule, as he seems to be completely ambivalent to which pronoun is used to refer to him. In his words, "You can call me he. You can call me she. You can call me Regis and Kathie Lee; I don't care!"[2] Biological females performing as drag queens are referred to as faux queens or bio queens. What are you views on drag? Call me crazy but I didnt' realize that Drag Queens were just characters. I thought they were female impersonators. I learned something today. I don't have a problem with them. I won't lie, when I saw one in person for the first time, my first thought was, but they are cool. I'm gay so I better not have a problem with them right? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: ehuffnsd said: What are you views on drag? Call me crazy but I didnt' realize that Drag Queens were just characters. I thought they were female impersonators. I learned something today. I don't have a problem with them. I won't lie, when I saw one in person for the first time, my first thought was, but they are cool. I'm gay so I better not have a problem with them right? In the 60's drag queens dressed mostly like Las Vegas showgirls. Later on, in the 70's they started trying to dress like actresses. That moved on to trying to look like a specific supermodel. I think now, it's all different things, it depends on what city or country you're in. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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If they can pull it off, I say for them.....
...I knew a guy who worked with me at Macy's who looked so good in drag that he almost got me on a date....he showed me pics of him at a Mardi Gras ball....and bet me that I couldn't spot him....so after 20 minutes and three views, I was about to give in when he showed me where he was....absolutely gorgeous in a black gown, hair in a bob-style (this was in '91) with the jewels and what have you.....I almost passed out because I was about to ask him to hook me up with the hottie in the black dress.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: purplecam said: Call me crazy but I didnt' realize that Drag Queens were just characters. I thought they were female impersonators. I learned something today. I don't have a problem with them. I won't lie, when I saw one in person for the first time, my first thought was, but they are cool. I'm gay so I better not have a problem with them right? In the 60's drag queens dressed mostly like Las Vegas showgirls. Later on, in the 70's they started trying to dress like actresses. That moved on to trying to look like a specific supermodel. I think now, it's all different things, it depends on what city or country you're in. Hi Miguel Hmm that's very interesting there. Another fact I didn't know. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: In the 60's drag queens dressed mostly like Las Vegas showgirls. Later on, in the 70's they started trying to dress like actresses. That moved on to trying to look like a specific supermodel. I think now, it's all different things, it depends on what city or country you're in. Hi Miguel Hmm that's very interesting there. Another fact I didn't know. also each coast has it's own drag culture. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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it's fine with me. far as i'm concerned they may wear anything they wish. | |
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my favorite drag queen ever was one i saw at a little bar in the west village in NYC. she came out wearing a dirty t-shirt and shorts with a big dirty ratty wig with a bird's nest in it. she stumbled on stage with a bag full of white powder, tried to lip synch to irene cara's "fame" for a few seconds, then fell over and passed out on the middle of the stage. it was the most beautiful drag performance i'd ever seen, other than when flloyd did his courtney love impersonation at coney island high...which actually wasn't a whole lot different than what i just described. | |
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Anxiety said: my favorite drag queen ever was one i saw at a little bar in the west village in NYC. she came out wearing a dirty t-shirt and shorts with a big dirty ratty wig with a bird's nest in it. she stumbled on stage with a bag full of white powder, tried to lip synch to irene cara's "fame" for a few seconds, then fell over and passed out on the middle of the stage. it was the most beautiful drag performance i'd ever seen, other than when flloyd did his courtney love impersonation at coney island high...which actually wasn't a whole lot different than what i just described.
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ehuffnsd said: Anxiety said: my favorite drag queen ever was one i saw at a little bar in the west village in NYC. she came out wearing a dirty t-shirt and shorts with a big dirty ratty wig with a bird's nest in it. she stumbled on stage with a bag full of white powder, tried to lip synch to irene cara's "fame" for a few seconds, then fell over and passed out on the middle of the stage. it was the most beautiful drag performance i'd ever seen, other than when flloyd did his courtney love impersonation at coney island high...which actually wasn't a whole lot different than what i just described.
that's great!! Hahahaha! I once saw a crazy freaky drag queen come out and perform some punk song. During the song she brought out a chain saw and scared the hell out of everyone. It was genius. MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits" | |
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