Stymie said: I guess I am not understanding what you guys mean by work? For me "work" in a relationship means to invest energy into making it better and to fule it for growth. I believe one must "work" on ones self as much as the relationship for it to grow "Love" to me feel effortless - it exsists ( or not ) | |
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Stymie said: shanti0608 said: Every relationship, even a love relationship takes constant work.
This is a great thread.
I had one of those long term relationships out of convenience and we had a lot in common personality wise. We were together for 10 years, split once because there was no passion. Then eventually realised that we were nothing more than room mates. I cannot speak for a long term passionate relationship unless you consider almost 2 years long... which in most ways I do not think it qualifies as long. I think that love can last if both ppl realise that there will be some (constant) work required. I do not think most of us consider what it takes to keep a relationship going before we step into one. I know for a fact that it takes two ppl that are willing to work and stay committed to the relationship for it to stay alive and healthy. It is like most things in life.. nothing survives without being fed and cared for. Relationships are no different. I read your entire post Adisa btw. Great question & subject. I guess I am not understanding what you guys mean by work? It can be complicated because I think that both ppl need to have common goals. If we are talking about a love relationship then I think it takes work to understand one another, make compromises, put the other person first. That is why I think if both ppl don't work at it then it becomes one sided and one person is left carrying all of the responsibility. I also think it takes ppl with different strengths and weaknesses to compliment one another and create balance. I could be totally wrong and talking out of my ass too. | |
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Mach said: Stymie said: I guess I am not understanding what you guys mean by work? For me "work" in a relationship means to invest energy into making it better and to fule it for growth. I believe one must "work" on ones self as much as the relationship for it to grow "Love" to me feel effortless - it exsists ( or not ) | |
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Stymie said: Mach said: For me "work" in a relationship means to invest energy into making it better and to fule it for growth. I believe one must "work" on ones self as much as the relationship for it to grow "Love" to me feel effortless - it exsists ( or not ) Lord knows that is true....effortless and we sure don't chose who we love. | |
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shanti0608 said: Stymie said: This is a great thread.
I guess I am not understanding what you guys mean by work? It can be complicated because I think that both ppl need to have common goals. If we are talking about a love relationship then I think it takes work to understand one another, make compromises, put the other person first. That is why I think if both ppl don't work at it then it becomes one sided and one person is left carrying all of the responsibility. I also think it takes ppl with different strengths and weaknesses to compliment one another and create balance. I could be totally wrong and talking out of my ass too. I don't think you're wrong at all. I just hear people talk about putting in work and I wonder where the lines of communication break down. It is my intent to go into a relationship knowing what is expected of each partner, what the goals are, if there is marriage on the mind of either, etc., to head off drama. I want that person to be my best friend so it's fresh everyday and we never run out of things to talk about and always want to spend time around each other. Then again, I never want to get married or live with someone so I can be talking out of my ass. | |
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Stymie said: shanti0608 said: It can be complicated because I think that both ppl need to have common goals. If we are talking about a love relationship then I think it takes work to understand one another, make compromises, put the other person first. That is why I think if both ppl don't work at it then it becomes one sided and one person is left carrying all of the responsibility. I also think it takes ppl with different strengths and weaknesses to compliment one another and create balance. I could be totally wrong and talking out of my ass too. I don't think you're wrong at all. I just hear people talk about putting in work and I wonder where the lines of communication break down. It is my intent to go into a relationship knowing what is expected of each partner, what the goals are, if there is marriage on the mind of either, etc., to head off drama. I want that person to be my best friend so it's fresh everyday and we never run out of things to talk about and always want to spend time around each other. Then again, I never want to get married or live with someone so I can be talking out of my ass. It is important to know what you want before entering. I cannot understand ppl that get married then have big troubles because one wants to have kids and the other one doesn't... HELLOOOOO! Shouldn't that have come up before you made the commitment to get married? Wow! | |
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shanti0608 said: Stymie said: Nah.
I don't think you're wrong at all. I just hear people talk about putting in work and I wonder where the lines of communication break down. It is my intent to go into a relationship knowing what is expected of each partner, what the goals are, if there is marriage on the mind of either, etc., to head off drama. I want that person to be my best friend so it's fresh everyday and we never run out of things to talk about and always want to spend time around each other. Then again, I never want to get married or live with someone so I can be talking out of my ass. It is important to know what you want before entering. I cannot understand ppl that get married then have big troubles because one wants to have kids and the other one doesn't... HELLOOOOO! Shouldn't that have come up before you made the commitment to get married? Wow! | |
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Stymie said: Mach said: For me "work" in a relationship means to invest energy into making it better and to fule it for growth. I believe one must "work" on ones self as much as the relationship for it to grow "Love" to me feel effortless - it exsists ( or not ) To me when ( if ) it becomes effortless and feels like I have to "do something" - I have to step back and see if that is really love or not and most times it's not. I think perhaps some confuse that with Love being "work" If that makes sense to anyone but me | |
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Too lazy to read the entire thread, but yes, love does last, infatuation does not.
If you love someone, then you enjoy them, and the relationship does not feel like work. Love should never feel like work, love is a need we all share, and we can never have too much of it. | |
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Mach said: Stymie said: Thank you Mach. I feel love should be effortless, too.
To me when ( if ) it becomes effortless and feels like I have to "do something" - I have to step back and see if that is really love or not and most times it's not. I think perhaps some confuse that with Love being "work" If that makes sense to anyone but me Makes perfect sense to me. | |
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Mach said: Stymie said: Thank you Mach. I feel love should be effortless, too.
To me when ( if ) it becomes effortless and feels like I have to "do something" - I have to step back and see if that is really love or not and most times it's not. I think perhaps some confuse that with Love being "work" If that makes sense to anyone but me | |
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both partners must share the same love story
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Adisa said: The prevailing wisdom was that passionate love would last for a few years and then companionate love would grow, but it also declines, God I WISH! "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Love can often last longer after a few drinks | |
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mdiver said: Love can often last longer after a few drinks
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Love is timeless....the depth and degree of love is what is finite....I have love for damned near every girlfriend I've ever had, but its nowhere near the love I have for my wife.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: Love is timeless....the depth and degree of love is what is finite....I have love for damned near every girlfriend I've ever had, but its nowhere near the love I have for my wife....or mdiver
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Mach said: Stymie said: I guess I am not understanding what you guys mean by work? For me "work" in a relationship means to invest energy into making it better and to fule it for growth. I believe one must "work" on ones self as much as the relationship for it to grow "Love" to me feel effortless - it exsists ( or not ) Wise as always... I am the living embodiment of that statement.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: Love is timeless....the depth and degree of love is what is finite....I have love for damned near every girlfriend I've ever had, but its nowhere near the love I have for my wife....
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reneGade20 said: Mach said: For me "work" in a relationship means to invest energy into making it better and to fule it for growth. I believe one must "work" on ones self as much as the relationship for it to grow "Love" to me feel effortless - it exsists ( or not ) Wise as always... I am the living embodiment of that statement.... Me too perhaps to a fault | |
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mdiver said: reneGade20 said: Love is timeless....the depth and degree of love is what is finite....I have love for damned near every girlfriend I've ever had, but its nowhere near the love I have for my wife....or mdiver
(not so) secret org man-crush... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: mdiver said: (not so) secret org man-crush... | |
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Mach said: reneGade20 said: Wise as always... I am the living embodiment of that statement.... Me too perhaps to a fault you know what they say about "trial and error", "try, try again" and all that jazz... [Edited 2/15/08 9:22am] He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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shanti0608 said: reneGade20 said: Love is timeless....the depth and degree of love is what is finite....I have love for damned near every girlfriend I've ever had, but its nowhere near the love I have for my wife....
AWWWWW you're making me blush again..... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: shanti0608 said: AWWWWW you're making me blush again..... Well you are a very sweet heartfelt man that I respect A LOT!! | |
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shanti0608 said: reneGade20 said: you're making me blush again..... Well you are a very sweet heartfelt man that I respect A LOT!! Thank you....but it was a long hard road for me (by my own doing no less...) to get to that point.... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: shanti0608 said: Well you are a very sweet heartfelt man that I respect A LOT!! Thank you....but it was a long hard road for me (by my own doing no less...) to get to that point.... Well no one is perfect. The most important thing is that you learned from your errors and you corrected them. It is about growing, learning, changing, loving...ourselves and our loved one. | |
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shanti0608 said: reneGade20 said: Thank you....but it was a long hard road for me (by my own doing no less...) to get to that point.... Well no one is perfect. The most important thing is that you learned from your errors and you corrected them. It is about growing, learning, changing, loving...ourselves and our loved one. Well said!... He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
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reneGade20 said: shanti0608 said: Well no one is perfect. The most important thing is that you learned from your errors and you corrected them. It is about growing, learning, changing, loving...ourselves and our loved one. Well said!... Written by someone who has made her share of errors and I have hopefully learned from them. | |
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I think love never remains static but evolves, goes through various stages which includes dying too unfortunately.
I think it only works between two people if they're both invested in the relationship equally. If one person is doing all the nurturing, growing etc then resentment sets in. Also, I think in an ideal world love motivates all of the above but wanting a relationship to work can be motivated by many things. . [Edited 2/15/08 9:40am] | |
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