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Reply #60 posted 02/14/08 3:05pm

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Ummmm... not! The Warriors did nothing to address their woes inside, as that's where Utah creamed them. Chris Webber? Please- he won't get the job done. The Warriors can beat a lot of teams out West with their style (as is evident with their win over Phoenix), but Utah has their number!

As for Utah making the playoffs, they're in much better shape than the W's, as they lead their division and have a better record. Did I mention that they're 17-3 over their last 20 games?



Warriors will get Utah this time around. You don't have Fisher, Webber can at least put a big body on Boozer, and Baron Davis is healthy this year. His knee was really hurting in the playoffs, especially in the second round.


Who's gonna get the boards for the W's? That's what killed them last year, and that's what will kill them again if they meet Utah in the playoffs.
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Reply #61 posted 02/14/08 3:23pm

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Warriors will get Utah this time around. You don't have Fisher, Webber can at least put a big body on Boozer, and Baron Davis is healthy this year. His knee was really hurting in the playoffs, especially in the second round.


Who's gonna get the boards for the W's? That's what killed them last year, and that's what will kill them again if they meet Utah in the playoffs.


Webber leaning on Boozer. Last year they had to put Harrington on Boozer and he got worn out. But Webber can lean all over Boozer, and actually get some rebounds, leaving harrington and other fresh.
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Reply #62 posted 02/14/08 3:42pm

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Who's gonna get the boards for the W's? That's what killed them last year, and that's what will kill them again if they meet Utah in the playoffs.


Webber leaning on Boozer. Last year they had to put Harrington on Boozer and he got worn out. But Webber can lean all over Boozer, and actually get some rebounds, leaving harrington and other fresh.


Webber will be 35 come playoff time. I don't see him being much of a force anymore.
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Reply #63 posted 02/14/08 4:09pm

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Webber leaning on Boozer. Last year they had to put Harrington on Boozer and he got worn out. But Webber can lean all over Boozer, and actually get some rebounds, leaving harrington and other fresh.


Webber will be 35 come playoff time. I don't see him being much of a force anymore.



As long as he can put a body on Boozer, that's all we need.
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Reply #64 posted 02/14/08 5:39pm

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My Hawks are sliding! sad
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Reply #65 posted 02/14/08 7:11pm

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My Hawks are sliding! sad


No. They SLID. eek lol
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Reply #66 posted 02/14/08 8:27pm

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My Hawks are sliding! sad


No. They SLID. eek lol


lol

They went like 3 games over .500 and then they haven't really won since then. sad
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Reply #67 posted 02/14/08 11:37pm

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My Hawks are sliding! sad


So are my Blazers. And let's not talk about my Sonics. sad
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Reply #68 posted 02/15/08 7:24am

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Now, not only has Devon George put the kibosh on this deal, but Jerry Stackhouse may have torpedoed it with his comments. Basketball executives are PO'ed that side deals may have been done.

This is one BIZARRE chain of events.

League to look at Stackhouse's comments
By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
February 15, 2008

NEW ORLEANS – As the New Jersey Nets and Dallas Mavericks feverishly worked to convince Devean George to join in the trade for Jason Kidd on Thursday, there suddenly loomed another issue that could obliterate the proposed deal: the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.

The NBA will investigate the possibility the Mavericks and Stackhouse violated league rules with a prearranged agreement for the forward to return to Dallas after reaching a contract buyout in New Jersey and sitting out the 30-day waiting period, sources said. Several league sources said the NBA will consider forbidding Stackhouse to re-sign with the Mavericks this season as punishment for public comments the forward made on Wednesday that suggested tampering could have occurred.

If it comes to that, the deal is dead. Dallas owner Mark Cuban wouldn't complete the trade for Kidd without a belief that he could bring back Stackhouse this season. Ultimately, sources say, Mavericks management decided that losing Stackhouse would be too hard of a hit to the Mavericks' depth, too steep a price to pay for Kidd.

For the Mavericks, the trouble started when Stackhouse, 33, gave an interview to the Associated Press on Wednesday that suggested there was a plan for how his trade, buyout and eventual re-signing with Dallas would unfold.

Stackhouse said that he was only part of the deal "to make the numbers work."

What's more, he said, "I feel great. I get 30 days to rest then I'll be right back. I ain't going nowhere."

Even if George changes his mind on Friday about agreeing to waive his "Early Larry Bird Rights" and accept the trade to New Jersey, sources said the league office will not immediately approve the trade. With angry rival executives across the league expressing outrage over Stackhouse's comments, as well as the NBA's own issues and suspicions with the comments, senior VP of basketball operations Stu Jackson is obligated to look deeper into the matter.

The NBA doesn't allow such prearranged agreements. The rest of the league is required to have a fair chance to sign Stackhouse in the 30 days before he is eligible to re-sign with the Mavericks. It doesn't help appearances that Stackhouse and Kidd share the same agent, Jeff Schwartz.

When several league executives read Stackhouse's comments on Wednesday, they were irate and privately promised to protest if Stackhouse ends up passing on leaguewide offers and returns to the Mavericks.

"It sounds like a side deal, doesn't it?" one Eastern Conference executive said. "The league will have a lot of explaining to do if Stackhouse goes back to Dallas."

Another general manager said, "I thought it was the most blatant statement someone could make about a trade. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the league disallowed Stackhouse to go back to Dallas. Stackhouse is too impulsive and is prone to say stuff like that which could really end up hurting Dallas."

Finally, a third GM said, "It's caused a lot of people to wonder how they could get away with that, how those kind of pre-existing arrangements can be allowed."

For now, it is clear the trade that would send Kidd and Malik Allen to Dallas for George, Stackhouse, Devin Harris, DeSagana Diop and Maurice Ager, two first-round picks and $3 million is stuck. Before the Mavericks' 109-97 loss to the Suns in Phoenix on Thursday night, agent Mark Bartelstein insisted that his client hadn't changed his mind about vetoing his trade to the Nets.

"There's nothing new," Bartelstein said. "Right now, he's just focusing on playing for the Mavericks."

Between now and next Thursday's trade deadline, the Nets and Mavericks are exploring scenarios that still include George and a sign-and-trade with Keith Van Horn, but the Stackhouse case could make everything else irrelevant. Across the league, there's a belief that Stackhouse revealed too much with his words and the NBA plans to take a hard look and ask the obvious question: Is there strong enough evidence of a pre-existing agreement between the Mavericks and Stackhouse that deserves punishment? If they league decides there is, and refuses to let him re-sign with the Mavericks, the results could be devastating for Dallas.

No trade.

No Kidd.

It would be a steep price to pay for the loose lips of Jerry Stackhouse.


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Reply #69 posted 02/15/08 10:30am

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and then the Warriors got smoked by my other team the JAZZ in the second round lol


And the hornets did what last year????

Utah won't beat the Warriors this time around (assuming Utah even makes the playoffs lol ). They no longer have Fisher plus Webber can at least put a body on Boozer.


Do you even watch BASKETBALL! UTAH is the 4th seed right now and GoldenSt please don't make me laugh and call you out!!
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Reply #70 posted 02/15/08 10:33am

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lol warriors probably won't even make it and yes the Hornets would cream them!! Davis no match for Chris Paul skill wise and looks!!!



I'm not worried about looks lol . Plus it looked like Pam Oliver really wanted Baron in the playoffs last year.

And Davis is no match for Chris Paul????? You smokin' some stoned



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Reply #71 posted 02/15/08 12:14pm

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And the hornets did what last year????

Utah won't beat the Warriors this time around (assuming Utah even makes the playoffs lol ). They no longer have Fisher plus Webber can at least put a body on Boozer.


Do you even watch BASKETBALL! UTAH is the 4th seed right now and GoldenSt please don't make me laugh and call you out!!


Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.
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Reply #72 posted 02/15/08 12:32pm

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Do you even watch BASKETBALL! UTAH is the 4th seed right now and GoldenSt please don't make me laugh and call you out!!


Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.



Same with Golden st. Did the yeven ever made it to the western conf finals in their pathetic history. UHMMMMM NO, I guess when pigs fly!!!
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Reply #73 posted 02/15/08 1:14pm

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Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.



Same with Golden st. Did the yeven ever made it to the western conf finals in their pathetic history. UHMMMMM NO, I guess when pigs fly!!!


You need to become more familiar with NBA history my friend.
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Reply #74 posted 02/15/08 1:21pm

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Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.



Same with Golden st. Did the yeven ever made it to the western conf finals in their pathetic history. UHMMMMM NO, I guess when pigs fly!!!


LOL, Google the name "Al Attles".
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Reply #75 posted 02/15/08 1:25pm

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Same with Golden st. Did the yeven ever made it to the western conf finals in their pathetic history. UHMMMMM NO, I guess when pigs fly!!!


LOL, Google the name "Al Attles".


Or Rick Barry!
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Reply #76 posted 02/15/08 2:38pm

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Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.



Same with Golden st. Did the yeven ever made it to the western conf finals in their pathetic history. UHMMMMM NO, I guess when pigs fly!!!


NBA Champs 1974-1975. Beat the Washington Bullets(Wizards) 4-0. Lost to Phoenix the following year in the conference finals.
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Reply #77 posted 02/15/08 2:40pm

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Hot rumor - Knicks & Nuggets discussing a mulit-player deal involving Zach Randolph(from realgm.com)
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Reply #78 posted 02/15/08 2:42pm

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Hot rumor - Knicks & Nuggets discussing a mulit-player deal involving Zach Randolph(from realgm.com)


That means Nene and/or Kmart would be dealt to NY.
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Reply #79 posted 02/15/08 7:22pm

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Do you even watch BASKETBALL! UTAH is the 4th seed right now and GoldenSt please don't make me laugh and call you out!!


Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.


rolleyes That championship in 75 does not mean they are a more successful franchise than Utah. Just look at the past 20 years. In any case, I still think Utah would crush Golden State in a playoff series, as I don't think Chris Webber will be effective at all against Utah's big men.
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Reply #80 posted 02/16/08 8:57pm

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The real question, who does J-Kidd suit up for the big All-Star game this weekend?

Also, it seems a big name player gets traded every week.

-Gasol
-Diesel
-Kidd

next week, look for Jermaine O'Neal, VC, Artest, Wallace or Bibby to be moved.

Guess I was right, Mike Bibby just got moved over to Atlanta for some bums.
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Reply #81 posted 02/16/08 9:08pm

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The real question, who does J-Kidd suit up for the big All-Star game this weekend?

Also, it seems a big name player gets traded every week.

-Gasol
-Diesel
-Kidd

next week, look for Jermaine O'Neal, VC, Artest, Wallace or Bibby to be moved.

Guess I was right, Mike Bibby just got moved over to Atlanta for some bums.


Damn straight! I like that trade, as a Hawks fan. Some bums is right, and I'm pretty sure we didn't need 4 or 5 poor to mediocre point guards on the roster so offloading a couple is good. We've slipped to 9th place in the East so we need to step it up.
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Reply #82 posted 02/19/08 10:09am

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Let's just compare World Championship Rings. I've never heard the phrase World Champion Utah Jazz used in a sentence. That's like President Kerry.



Same with Golden st. Did the yeven ever made it to the western conf finals in their pathetic history. UHMMMMM NO, I guess when pigs fly!!!


I guess you need a history lession...the Warriors have won the Championship.
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Reply #83 posted 02/19/08 10:13am

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Everyone is making moves BUT my sorry ass Bulls.
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Reply #84 posted 02/19/08 10:15am

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And the hornets did what last year????

Utah won't beat the Warriors this time around (assuming Utah even makes the playoffs lol ). They no longer have Fisher plus Webber can at least put a body on Boozer.


Do you even watch BASKETBALL! UTAH is the 4th seed right now and GoldenSt please don't make me laugh and call you out!!


Call me out....I do watch Basketball and the Warriors are doing fine. They have a very potent offensive and can step up their defense when needed.
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Reply #85 posted 02/19/08 12:01pm

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Do you even watch BASKETBALL! UTAH is the 4th seed right now and GoldenSt please don't make me laugh and call you out!!


Call me out....I do watch Basketball and the Warriors are doing fine. They have a very potent offensive and can step up their defense when needed.



WELL, I just hope my Hornets can get that #1 seed and play Golden ST cause I know they will automatically get to 2nd round and I would be more than happy to call you OUT!!!!! Utah my other team, yeah before New Orleans had one, would destroy Golden ST like last year. I don't see why it would be any different this year!!
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Reply #86 posted 02/19/08 12:26pm

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Call me out....I do watch Basketball and the Warriors are doing fine. They have a very potent offensive and can step up their defense when needed.



WELL, I just hope my Hornets can get that #1 seed and play Golden ST cause I know they will automatically get to 2nd round and I would be more than happy to call you OUT!!!!! Utah my other team, yeah before New Orleans had one, would destroy Golden ST like last year. I don't see why it would be any different this year!!


Yeah and the Warriors have never won a championship rolleyes


Hell my Warriors have won more championships than your Hornets AND Jazz combined lol


And be very carefull what you wish for...one of your teams just might have to play the Warriors wink
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Reply #87 posted 02/19/08 1:53pm

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Everyone is making moves BUT my sorry ass Bulls.


Not true. Didn't they just trade 2 concession stand workers to the Knicks for one of their janitors and a ball boy to be named later? evillol
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Reply #88 posted 02/19/08 2:13pm

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Graycap23 said:

Everyone is making moves BUT my sorry ass Bulls.


Not true. Didn't they just trade 2 concession stand workers to the Knicks for one of their janitors and a ball boy to be named later? evillol



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Reply #89 posted 02/19/08 2:22pm

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Everyone is making moves BUT my sorry ass Bulls.


Not true. Didn't they just trade 2 concession stand workers to the Knicks for one of their janitors and a ball boy to be named later? evillol

If they did, they would trade 10 of their workers for a Mofo that died last year.
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