ehuffnsd said: gabeez said: ok, ok, i like some of that - i agree, we don't have to run parallel paths - but she was someone i was pretty tight with, and if that changes cause of some dude...its questionable at the very least - we've gone through periods where we didn't talk cause of work, school, etc. But never cause of another person. But i like what you said..maybe its a good time for me to shift gears . if she's happy, let her be. i want nothing more than to see my friends happy. the hurt will pass, and as a friend you'll be there should anything change | |
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Stymie said: ehuffnsd said: if she's happy, let her be. i want nothing more than to see my friends happy. the hurt will pass, and as a friend you'll be there should anything change | |
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Stymie said: ehuffnsd said: if she's happy, let her be. i want nothing more than to see my friends happy. the hurt will pass, and as a friend you'll be there should anything change LOL thanks. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Stymie said: ehuffnsd said: if she's happy, let her be. i want nothing more than to see my friends happy. the hurt will pass, and as a friend you'll be there should anything change | |
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Ex-Moderator | Stymie said: ehuffnsd said: if she's happy, let her be. i want nothing more than to see my friends happy. the hurt will pass, and as a friend you'll be there should anything change I agree, Ivy, but I think there's a happy medium between both perspectives. We have to allow our friends room to grow and change, and if that means they have less time with us than before, that's ok, whether it's because of a new partner, a new job, a new direction in life, whatever. But it is NOT ok to cut someone off completely, no apologies and then come running back only when it's convenient. A little communication goes a long way, even if it's only to say I'm sorry I don't have time for you right now but I hope to someday soon, or whatever. |
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CarrieMpls said: Stymie said: You are such a sweetie even though I disagree with every word you just types.
I agree, Ivy, but I think there's a happy medium between both perspectives. We have to allow our friends room to grow and change, and if that means they have less time with us than before, that's ok, whether it's because of a new partner, a new job, a new direction in life, whatever. But it is NOT ok to cut someone off completely, no apologies and then come running back only when it's convenient. A little communication goes a long way, even if it's only to say I'm sorry I don't have time for you right now but I hope to someday soon, or whatever. Yup ... | |
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CarrieMpls said: Stymie said: You are such a sweetie even though I disagree with every word you just types.
I agree, Ivy, but I think there's a happy medium between both perspectives. We have to allow our friends room to grow and change, and if that means they have less time with us than before, that's ok, whether it's because of a new partner, a new job, a new direction in life, whatever. But it is NOT ok to cut someone off completely, no apologies and then come running back only when it's convenient. A little communication goes a long way, even if it's only to say I'm sorry I don't have time for you right now but I hope to someday soon, or whatever. | |
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CarrieMpls said: Stymie said: You are such a sweetie even though I disagree with every word you just types.
I agree, Ivy, but I think there's a happy medium between both perspectives. We have to allow our friends room to grow and change, and if that means they have less time with us than before, that's ok, whether it's because of a new partner, a new job, a new direction in life, whatever. But it is NOT ok to cut someone off completely, no apologies and then come running back only when it's convenient. A little communication goes a long way, even if it's only to say I'm sorry I don't have time for you right now but I hope to someday soon, or whatever. but they aren't cut off they still commiunicate. same with myself and my friend. we talk just not like the old days. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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gabeez said: Has anyone ever experienced this, your friend meets someone, says he's "the one" and then proceeds to neglect you?? My friend and i are close, er-were close, i guess she's into this guy-but its kinda overboard. I don't want to be angry, we've talked, she says she wants to spend all of her free time with him. I don't know if to continue to talk to her, when she calls and im's. How can you just abandon your friends like that?
Or maybe i should just back off? All kinds of people do that. Apparently, friends are for when you're single and alone, but a thing to be ditched once you've partnered up. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Ex-Moderator | ehuffnsd said: CarrieMpls said: I agree, Ivy, but I think there's a happy medium between both perspectives. We have to allow our friends room to grow and change, and if that means they have less time with us than before, that's ok, whether it's because of a new partner, a new job, a new direction in life, whatever. But it is NOT ok to cut someone off completely, no apologies and then come running back only when it's convenient. A little communication goes a long way, even if it's only to say I'm sorry I don't have time for you right now but I hope to someday soon, or whatever. but they aren't cut off they still commiunicate. same with myself and my friend. we talk just not like the old days. And I see what you're saying too, but maybe it's that I feel like you're saying it's no big deal. But it is. It's a loss to mourn. Close friendships to me are as important as romantic relationships. When things change, it's HUGE for me. |
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meow85 said: gabeez said: Has anyone ever experienced this, your friend meets someone, says he's "the one" and then proceeds to neglect you?? My friend and i are close, er-were close, i guess she's into this guy-but its kinda overboard. I don't want to be angry, we've talked, she says she wants to spend all of her free time with him. I don't know if to continue to talk to her, when she calls and im's. How can you just abandon your friends like that?
Or maybe i should just back off? All kinds of people do that. Apparently, friends are for when you're single and alone, but a thing to be ditched once you've partnered up. that's absurd. i guess i look at it from a gay pov where our friends are our family because so many of us have no connection tour birth family. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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CarrieMpls said: ehuffnsd said: but they aren't cut off they still commiunicate. same with myself and my friend. we talk just not like the old days. And I see what you're saying too, but maybe it's that I feel like you're saying it's no big deal. But it is. It's a loss to mourn. Close friendships to me are as important as romantic relationships. When things change, it's HUGE for me. trust me i'm the same way. my friends are my family. if you can't hang with my friends you can't be part of my family. i've gone through a hell of year because of some strain in my chosen family. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Stymie said: I think a lot of you guys are missing the point: It's not that I have the need to talk to friends everyday: even Ivy enjoys her alone time, but what irks the hell out of me is when my friends get involved and they stop calling or coming by or hanging out. Yes, I understand not calling me everyday, but weeks or months at a time? I do not understand the dynamic of making that other person your whole life.
I hear you, & it used to bother me but I've come to accept it One of my best friends used to just lose her mind w/ every new guy - no calls, no nothing until they broke up then she'd be "normal" again. When she got married I figured she'd be somewhere between totally cut off & normal, but she ended up more on the "cut off" side so that was a big adjustment b/c marriage is a permanent situation (with any luck). I understand the time/attention factor very well though, it's just weird to know you're not gonna talk to a good friend hardly ever. We talk 1-3 times a year (usually once), maybe get together once a year... we live one city from each other I've never been like that w/ my friends (i.e. totally drop them b/c my relationship). I may have less time than usual but I don't forget they exist until I wanna cry on their shoulder & bitch about dude - it's pretty selfish... Then again maybe she doesn't talk to me as much now b/c I don't have kids I can't relate as well as she'd like me to (that's pretty much all she'll talk about) But it doesn't explain why she was like that before marriage & kids, I think it's just part of her personality. If a man could consume her life before, then a husband & kids most definitely will. . [Edited 1/14/08 13:55pm] | |
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CarrieMpls said: ehuffnsd said: but they aren't cut off they still commiunicate. same with myself and my friend. we talk just not like the old days. And I see what you're saying too, but maybe it's that I feel like you're saying it's no big deal. But it is. It's a loss to mourn. Close friendships to me are as important as romantic relationships. When things change, it's HUGE for me. how is it a loss if you still talk to that person. maybe not as much but still. I don't know. any friends of mine are close to me anyway they are like sisters and brothers to me. but I don't feel 'abandoned' when they have something going on separate from me and can't spend as much time with me. What ever. cool do ya thang. Change is change. thats just the way it is imo. | |
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CarrieMpls said: ehuffnsd said: but they aren't cut off they still commiunicate. same with myself and my friend. we talk just not like the old days. And I see what you're saying too, but maybe it's that I feel like you're saying it's no big deal. But it is. It's a loss to mourn. Close friendships to me are as important as romantic relationships. When things change, it's HUGE for me. | |
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meow85 said: gabeez said: Has anyone ever experienced this, your friend meets someone, says he's "the one" and then proceeds to neglect you?? My friend and i are close, er-were close, i guess she's into this guy-but its kinda overboard. I don't want to be angry, we've talked, she says she wants to spend all of her free time with him. I don't know if to continue to talk to her, when she calls and im's. How can you just abandon your friends like that?
Or maybe i should just back off? All kinds of people do that. Apparently, friends are for when you're single and alone, but a thing to be ditched once you've partnered up. | |
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Byron said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: If she's still calling and IMing you, she hasn't abandoned you! Good point ... Her calls and im's are mostly about him . | |
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CalhounSq said: Stymie said: I think a lot of you guys are missing the point: It's not that I have the need to talk to friends everyday: even Ivy enjoys her alone time, but what irks the hell out of me is when my friends get involved and they stop calling or coming by or hanging out. Yes, I understand not calling me everyday, but weeks or months at a time? I do not understand the dynamic of making that other person your whole life.
I hear you, & it used to bother me but I've come to accept it One of my best friends used to just lose her mind w/ every new guy - no calls, no nothing until they broke up then she'd be "normal" again. When she got married I figured she'd be somewhere between totally cut off & normal, but she ended up more on the "cut off" side so that was a big adjustment b/c marriage is a permanent situation (with any luck). I understand the time/attention factor very well though, it's just weird to know you're not gonna talk to a good friend hardly ever. We talk 1-3 times a year (usually once), maybe get together once a year... we live one city from each other I've never been like that w/ my friends (i.e. totally drop them b/c my relationship). I may have less time than usual but I don't forget they exist until I wanna cry on their shoulder & bitch about dude - it's pretty selfish... Then again maybe she doesn't talk to me as much now b/c I don't have kids I can't relate as well as she'd like me to (that's pretty much all she'll talk about) But it doesn't explain why she was like that before marriage & kids, I think it's just part of her personality. If a man could consume her life before, then a husband & kids most definitely will. . [Edited 1/14/08 13:55pm] I dunno...maybe it's just me that doesn't understand that one is more important than the other. | |
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It's better then just ditching people for no reason. Give your friend sometime. They'll level out once the honeymoon phase is over. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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Ex-Moderator | Stymie said: CalhounSq said: I hear you, & it used to bother me but I've come to accept it One of my best friends used to just lose her mind w/ every new guy - no calls, no nothing until they broke up then she'd be "normal" again. When she got married I figured she'd be somewhere between totally cut off & normal, but she ended up more on the "cut off" side so that was a big adjustment b/c marriage is a permanent situation (with any luck). I understand the time/attention factor very well though, it's just weird to know you're not gonna talk to a good friend hardly ever. We talk 1-3 times a year (usually once), maybe get together once a year... we live one city from each other I've never been like that w/ my friends (i.e. totally drop them b/c my relationship). I may have less time than usual but I don't forget they exist until I wanna cry on their shoulder & bitch about dude - it's pretty selfish... Then again maybe she doesn't talk to me as much now b/c I don't have kids I can't relate as well as she'd like me to (that's pretty much all she'll talk about) But it doesn't explain why she was like that before marriage & kids, I think it's just part of her personality. If a man could consume her life before, then a husband & kids most definitely will. . [Edited 1/14/08 13:55pm] I dunno...maybe it's just me that doesn't understand that one is more important than the other. It's not just you. But it's obvious some people don't find friendships as important as others do. I'm not saying that makes them bad people, just that we see them differently. |
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Sweeny79 said: Love is a pretty normal reason.
It's like excusing people for bad behavior.
It's better then just ditching people for no reason. Give your friend sometime. They'll level out once the honeymoon phase is over. And it's no better than ditching people for no reason, in my honest opinion. [Edited 1/14/08 14:16pm] | |
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Ex-Moderator | heybaby said: CarrieMpls said: And I see what you're saying too, but maybe it's that I feel like you're saying it's no big deal. But it is. It's a loss to mourn. Close friendships to me are as important as romantic relationships. When things change, it's HUGE for me. how is it a loss if you still talk to that person. maybe not as much but still. I don't know. any friends of mine are close to me anyway they are like sisters and brothers to me. but I don't feel 'abandoned' when they have something going on separate from me and can't spend as much time with me. What ever. cool do ya thang. Change is change. thats just the way it is imo. Cause it's different. It changes things. While I may be happy for the friend and totally understand why things change, it still can be a dramatic change that needs to be adjusted to. That's all. |
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Moderator | Stymie said: Sweeny79 said: Love is a pretty normal reason.
It's like excusing people for bad behavior. It's better then just ditching people for no reason. Give your friend sometime. They'll level out once the honeymoon phase is over. I don't see it that way, I see it as giving someone you care about the space and time they need to be happy. There are only so many free time hours each day. If you are in love you want to be with the one you love. I think that's ok. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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CarrieMpls said: Stymie said: I really don't understand it. Friendships and partnerships are still both types of relationships. They both need to be nurtured.
I dunno...maybe it's just me that doesn't understand that one is more important than the other. It's not just you. But it's obvious some people don't find friendships as important as others do. I'm not saying that makes them bad people, just that we see them differently. I just want to understand it. It's not something I do when I'm seeing someone. | |
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Sweeny79 said: Stymie said: It's like excusing people for bad behavior.
I don't see it that way, I see it as giving someone you care about the space and time they need to be happy. There are only so many free time hours each day. If you are love you want to be with the one you love. I think that's ok. Give me a heads up that you are dropping from sight for however how long. | |
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Moderator | Stymie said: Sweeny79 said: I don't see it that way, I see it as giving someone you care about the space and time they need to be happy. There are only so many free time hours each day. If you are love you want to be with the one you love. I think that's ok. Give me a heads up that you are dropping from sight for however how long. Oh I agree with that! You should tell your friends what's up before you disappear! In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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gabeez said: Byron said: Good point ... Her calls and im's are mostly about him . If you're really her friend, you'll talk to her about her issues like you expect her to talk about yours 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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CarrieMpls said: heybaby said: how is it a loss if you still talk to that person. maybe not as much but still. I don't know. any friends of mine are close to me anyway they are like sisters and brothers to me. but I don't feel 'abandoned' when they have something going on separate from me and can't spend as much time with me. What ever. cool do ya thang. Change is change. thats just the way it is imo. Cause it's different. It changes things. While I may be happy for the friend and totally understand why things change, it still can be a dramatic change that needs to be adjusted to. That's all. You're not jealous of Anx are you! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Stymie said: Sweeny79 said: Love is a pretty normal reason.
It's like excusing people for bad behavior.
It's better then just ditching people for no reason. Give your friend sometime. They'll level out once the honeymoon phase is over. And it's no better than ditching people for no reason, in my honest opinion. [Edited 1/14/08 14:16pm] not eveyrone sees friends the same way though. As far as i know my dad doesn't have any outside of the ones he sees on bowling night. my mom has maybe two. i have lots, work friends, friends in the Sisters, the Family which stretches all cross the country. my ex hated the Family and was always complaining, about them. however they are important to me so i'd tune him out when he starting talking about. my mom doesn't understand my need for all the friends, but than again i don't talk to anyone with my family but her, and she spends most of her time with my birth family You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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Sweeny79 said: Stymie said: Give me a heads up that you are dropping from sight for however how long. Oh I agree with that! You should tell your friends what's up before you disappear! not everyone is aware. when my friend and i stopped talking as much as we used to it was the big pink elephant in the room for me for a couple months before i addressed. he appologized because he wasn't aware that things had changed as much as i had and i had to come to terms with he had different pirorites now. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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