Since we humans have total disregard for this planet, raping it for its resources and clearly turning our backs on the whole global warming issue. I truly think we will simply exhaust all possibilities for nature to sustain our existence and eventually the planet will simply smother itself in natural disasters.....then....

Repopulate itself with life...and go on again....until Humans fuck it up again!!

And so on and so on and so on.....

DexMSR said:

I agree with ya, but I don't think humans will get another chance. Another species will take over.

I don't think the planet will do it first. I think we'll do it to each other.


Albeit, any day we could be hit by a supervolcanic explosion, comet, meteor, or gamma ray burst. I'm totally not joking on this. It really could happen.

Also, the earth has been known to freeze over (not just a common ice age, but the entire planets ocean freezing and killing off 95 percent of life) from time to time.


One thing I really do believe is that sense of safety (if anybody really has it) that some folks feel is an illusion.

If you think of what Earth has gone through since it's creation (or at least what we think it has gone through) Then I think it is only natural that even without us messing it up things are going to happen and change. It is a fact of life. As to if we evolve in the form we are currently known as and get the chance to mess it up again and again am not sure.

yes.

I think it's totally possible...

I just hope it waits 'til after christmans to do it...

Humans will always survive, always, we are a race of egocentric survivors...
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JoeTyler said:

Nope...

lazycrockett said:

i agree. next time around it will be super-smart, evolved kitties or doggies or something. they'll keep little monkeymen around the house as pets or eat us or something.

Anxiety said:

anything is possible

Greenland Is Melting

I think we'll begin populating space before we completely fuck up the planet... so our job in fucking up the entire universe begins...

Byron said:

Then what do you believe brotha?

DexMSR said:

You shouldn't believe ANYTHING you read from Ann Coulter.

I believe that eventually, our planet will become so extreme in temperature either way, that we will be just like all of the other planets in our system. I also believe that there may have been life on the other planets just as there is on our own.

DexMSR said:

That the Earth isn't fragile but instead is insanely resilient and self-sufficient...that we as humans were meant to be on and of this planet just like every other inhabitant, so it (Earth) is already prepared for whatever we start doing.

And that if we as a race were to collectively turn off our self-defense mechanisms and march blindly towards eliminating ourselves thru the wanton destruction of nature, that the Earth would self-correct and stop us in our tracks long before your scenario would have a change of taking place...unless what we're doing is actually for the Earth's benefit even if it's not for our own. In which case good ol' Mother Nature will let us keep on keeping on. The "perfect" state for the Earth may not be the "perfect" state for humans, I dunno.

RodeoSchro said:

I hate that chick!!

DexMSR said:

She's fond of you...

Byron said:

She couldn't even fondle me either.....

DexMSR said:

I think that is bollocks.....not the first time today

roodboi said:

veronikka said:

mother nature will take care of herself if we don't make no mistakes about it,

It's just one great big cycle. Isn't it?

Byron said:

I agree with Byron and Miguel. And, then, there's this:


Scientists doubt climate change

By S.A. Miller
Washington Times
December 21, 2007

- More than 400 scientists challenge claims by former Vice President Al Gore and the United Nations about the threat of man-made global warming, a new Senate minority report says.

The scientists — many of whom are current or former members of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that shares the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize with Mr. Gore for publicizing a climate crisis — cast doubt on the "scientific consensus" that man-made global warming imperils the planet.

"I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting — a six-meter sea level rise, 15 times the IPCC number — entirely without merit," said Dutch atmospheric scientist Hendrik Tennekes, one of the researchers quoted in the report by Republican staff of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee.

"I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached," Mr. Tennekes said in the report.

Sen. James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma, ranking Republican on the Environment and Public Works Committee, said the report debunks Mr. Gore's claim that the "debate is over."

"The endless claims of a 'consensus' about man-made global warming grow less-and-less credible every day," he said.

After a quick review of the report, Gore spokeswoman Kalee Kreider said 25 or 30 of the scientists may have received funding from Exxon Mobil Corp.

Exxon Mobil spokesman Gantt H. Walton dismissed the accusation, saying the company is concerned about climate-change issues and does not pay scientists to bash global-warming theories.

"Recycling of that kind of discredited conspiracy theory is nothing more than a distraction from the real challenge facing society and the energy industry," he said. "And that challenge is how are we going to provide the energy needed to support economic and social development while reducing greenhouse-gas emissions."

The Republican report comes on the heels of Saturday's United Nations climate conference in Bali, Indonesia, where conferees adopted a plan to negotiate a new pact to create verifiable measurements to fight global warming in two years.

In the Senate report, environmental scientist David W. Schnare of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said he was skeptical because "conclusions about the cause of the apparent warming stand on the shoulders of incredibly uncertain data and models. ... As a policy matter, one has to be less willing to take extreme actions when data are highly uncertain."

The hundreds of others in the report — climatologists, oceanographers, geologists, glaciologists, physicists and paleoclimatologists — voice varying degrees of criticism of the popular global-warming theory. Their testimony challenges the idea that the climate-change debate is "settled" and runs counter to the claim that the number of skeptical scientists is dwindling.

The report's authors expect some of the scientists will recant their remarks under intense pressure from the public and from within professional circles to conform to the global-warming theory, a committee staffer said.

Several scientists in the report said many colleagues share their skepticism about man-made climate change but don't speak out publicly for fear of retribution, according to the report.

"Many of my colleagues with whom I spoke share these views and report on their inability to publish their skepticism in the scientific or public media," atmospheric scientist Nathan Paldor, professor of Dynamical Meteorology and Physical Oceanography at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, said in the report.

The IPCC has about 2,500 members.

HEATED DEBATE

The following are comments from some of the more than 400 scientists in a Republican report on global warming:

•"Even if the concentration of 'greenhouse gases' double, man would not perceive the temperature impact." -- Oleg Sorochtin of the Institute of Oceanology at the Russian Academy of Sciences

•"I find the Doomsday picture Al Gore is painting — a six-meter sea level rise, 15 times the [U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] number — entirely without merit. ... I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached." -- Atmospheric scientist Hendrik Tennekes, former research director at the Netherlands' Royal National Meteorological Institute

•"The hypothesis that solar variability and not human activity is warming the oceans goes a long way to explain the puzzling idea that the Earth's surface may be warming while the atmosphere is not. The [greenhouse-gas] hypothesis does not do this. ... The public is not well served by this constant drumbeat of false alarms fed by computer models manipulated by advocates." -- David Wojick, expert reviewer for U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

•"The media is promoting an unprecedented hyping related to global warming. The media and many scientists are ignoring very important facts that point to a natural variation in the climate system as the cause of the recent global warming." -- Chief Meteorologist Eugenio Hackbart of the MetSul Meteorologia Weather Center in Sao Leopoldo-Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil

•"There's no need to be worried. It's very interesting to study [climate change], but there's no need to be worried." -- Anton Uriarte, a professor of physical geography at the University of the Basque Country in Spain

Source: Sen. James M. Inhofe of Oklahoma, ranking Republican on the Environment and Public Works Committee


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In Holland we have broken another warmth record; hottest year around, since humanity started keeping track of that stuff.

When looking at evidence, it seems humanity's immense growth puts a stamp on earth's environment. People say that was meant to happen are slightly off. We will kill this planet and everything on it. It's already happening. We are a too stoopid race to make changes.