I am SO online shopping this year.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I wouldn't ask for an apology. I understand your point of view and share it many level. But, what gun control laws would prevent this? The Virginia Tech shooter purchased his guns calmly and went through all the necessary red tape. I think the best anyone could hope for would be to put heavier restictions on semi-automatic weaponry, which would perhaps trim down the damage that these people can do (but the shooting itself would still happen).

Heck, this was done with a rifle.

Its mind boggling to think that something like this can happen.

Take care!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You'll never see legislation as long as the GOP's in bed with the powerful NRA.

Funny - when Adolph Giuliani was mayor, he was in favor of gun control. Now that he's running for dictator, the prick has softened his stance in order to win NRA support.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Richard, you live in southern California. What you're saying isn't exactly fair.

liberation said:

It's also every American's God-given right to not notice irony.

th13182 said:

Thank you. I grew up in Iowa (2 hours north of Omaha--still fly into good ole Epply Airfield when I visit) and not everyone in Nebraska, Iowa, South Dakota, etc. is a red-neck, gun toting hick. Sure, some people are, () but to generalize like that when Omaha is actually a pretty hip city is not fair.

Omaha is a major city for drug distribution to other midwest cities (St. Louis, Des Moines, Chicago, etc) and there is a fair amount of gang activity, right? So maybe the shooter was a "thug" and it was gang/drug related instead of a red-neck. BTW, I am totally being sarcastic with that last comment to prove a point about generalizing. (I doubt gangs use rifles much...) Just b/c someone is from a certain city, or region does not mean they are a certain way. I obviously have no clue who the shooter was, but to assume it's a card-carrying member of the NRA hick is just as offensive as assuming it's gang related because of what I can generalize about Omaha.


I wonder if this is the same mall that we used to go to when I was younger---we would make a special day trip to Omaha to do holiday shopping because the mall was so much better than the one in Sioux City.

Hope you and those you know are safe and go Huskers!

ps. Omaha must be somewhat decent if an Iowan will defend it. (There's a big rivalry b/t western Iowa & eastern Nebraska.)
[Edited 12/5/07 21:27pm]

I saw this on this news. He wanted to "go out in style".

GangstaFam said:

What was the response to the Virginia tech massacre. GUNS GUNS AND GUNS. Do we have crime and gun deaths here where I live? Yes. But many here don't want guns to be completely unregulated. If the criminals are going to get them anyway we shouldn't be allowing them to get these crazy outrageously dangerous weapons legally. I'm not for banning guns and this person wasn't a criminal and that's the point.

Someone like this can just go out and get a gun legally if they want one and there are no barriers to the criminality of their mind because there is virtually no regulation as far as thorough background checks or waiting periods or the unavailability of weapons that are more powerful than even the police have. The love of guns in this country is crazy and I wish I could have a moderated stance but just so long as the gun lobby has unfettered control of guns and how they are manufactured and obtained, I will speak my opinion on this.

Sorry if it feels harsh to some people but it feels awfully harsh for those of us who want responsibility to be a part of gun culture in this country and it's maddening to see year after year these kinds of incidents happening and the response is even more loosening of gun laws or gun control and a call for even more guns. It's lunacy.

There's so many school related shootings/suicides in the world, what's up?

March 13, 1996
Dunblane, Scotland
16 children and one teacher killed at Dunblane Primary School by Thomas Hamilton, who then killed himself. 10 others wounded in attack.

March 1997
Sanaa, Yemen
Eight people (six students and two others) at two schools killed by Mohammad Ahman al-Naziri.

Dec. 7, 1999
Veghel, Netherlands One teacher and three students wounded by a 17-year-old student.

March 2000
Branneburg, Germany One teacher killed by a 15-year-old student, who then shot himself. The shooter has been in a coma ever since.

Jan. 18, 2001
Jan, Sweden One student killed by two boys, ages 17 and 19.

Feb. 19, 2002
Freising, Germany
Two killed in Eching by a man at the factory from which he had been fired; he then traveled to Freising and killed the headmaster of the technical school from which he had been expelled. He also wounded another teacher before killing himself.

April 26, 2002
Erfurt, Germany
13 teachers, two students, and one policeman killed, ten wounded by Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, at the Johann Gutenberg secondary school. Steinhaeuser then killed himself.

April 29, 2002
Vlasenica, Bosnia-Herzegovina
One teacher killed, one wounded by Dragoslav Petkovic, 17, who then killed himself.

Sept. 28, 2004
Carmen de Patagones, Argentina
Three students killed and 6 wounded by a 15-year-old Argentininan student in a town 620 miles south of Buenos Aires.

Sept. 13, 2006
Montreal, Canada
Kimveer Gill, 25, opened fire with a semiautomatic weapon at Dawson College. Anastasia De Sousa, 18, died and more than a dozen students and faculty were wounded before Gill killed himself.

Nov. 7, 2007
Tuusula, Finland
An 18-year-old student in southern Finland shot and killed five boys, two girls, and the female principal at Jokela High School. At least 10 others were injured. The gunman shot himself and is in the hospital in critical condition.

Now put a list of mass shootings based in America.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Bigot.

CalhounSq said:

Uh, it's called psychotic for a reason.

They've lost all sense of reason, consequence and logic.

The boy was teased endlessly at school, had neglectful parents, lost his job and his girlfriend in one week and had depression.

When you're that low, you're not thinking straight obviously.

I'm not in ANY way justifying what he did, but it's VERY easy to see how it ended up happening and that with a little love and attention it may have been prevented.

Parents and caretakers need to stop belittling teens problems, calling them attention seekers etc.

That's why shit like this happens, in some sick way they're doing it for the attention they never received and NEEDED.

Raze said:

crybaby

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Hi there!

gemini13 said:

seems that the way of the future too .. cant even enjoy a wonderful afternoon out of shopping