I have friends, alot.
Family, alot.
Acquaintences, alot.
Colleagues, alot.

But in this world, who are we really? We are a tiny, tiny speck.
We work, we get paid, we love, we eat, we produce, we laugh and cry.

Maybe this is too much thought for your grey matter but what stops us from being nobody? Or just somebody?

Love is the greatest thing, that is my excuse.

You were made by God.

God does not make mistakes.

You are somebody.

When we die, we will be judged.

The fact that our lives will be judged means they have meaning.

This is my belief.

that's where spirituality can fill some of those philosophical gaps

and the other thing is

you can choose to believe

RodeoSchro said:

So, by that logic if you're an atheist your life has no meaning?

I think we make our meaning
but for me it's harder without feeling a deeper connection to the cosmos or something larger than myself.

CarrieMpls said:

No, just that they don't realize it does lol...

RodeoSchro said:

Mistakes are made by us?

Well, apparently you're nobody unless somebody loves you.

We are all somebody

This is a very interesting thread.

CarrieMpls said:

If you love yourself, you're always a somebody.

MissMe said:

So size determines value and importance?




There's extreme and real value in each of those things...




Everything you just mentioned...the fact that we work, we earn, we love, we eat, we produce, we create, we laugh, we cry, we feel, we experience, we learn, we grow, we improve, we progress...those things keep us from being "nobody", our lives from being "nothing"...


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MissMe said:

Yes, that's called free will.

Byron said:

Well said.

Byron said:

but the Buddhists would say this is all samsara, the wheel of birth and death, ultimately illusory, a transmigrating relativity which has no substance

And that there's a difference between the ego self (which is insubstantial and fades) and the Self -- the all pervasive, eternal consciousness which lies at the bottom of everything and to which we all belong

Byron said:

I agree with you, and our small world together amounts to a greater strength. I just want clarification and queations, and answers is all.

heartbeatocean said:

Very interesting.

RodeoSchro said:

I was thinking of a more sinister sense.

MoniGram said:

I hope so.

i am nobody/somebody/toomuchbody, depending on my surroundings. i usually find that how significant i feel in a certain setting has more to do with my own feelings of self-worth than it has to do with any actual social standing i may or may not have. i think obscurity is actually a good thing. if something i create becomes popular or successful, great. i'd rather put good thoughts into the world than just have everyone bug me all the time because i happen to be me. whoop de freakin do.

Byron said:

No. But also by example, one can be very popular and still be unimportant in the world we speak of.

I wanted to know, who is a nobody, what is a nobody and are YOU, ME a nobody?
I guess we are.

RodeoSchro said:

I see what you mean, but being an atheist, I couldn't disagree more.

MissMe said:

I think we all recognize the fleetingness of existence on some level. Change is the only constant in this world and clinging to anything leads to pain and loss. One needs to seek something deeper to feel satisfied and at peace. Whatever that is and whatever you call it. Where is that thing that does not change, fluctuate, and die?

CarrieMpls said:

There's nothing I can do about that.

Anxiety said:

But in comparison, does that make Einstein, Dali, Churchill a somebody to your nobody? Therefore your life is hmm, mundane?

Did God request more of us? Or just want us to be happy in our own little lives?

heartbeatocean said:

Wouldn't the mere fact that they believe this render their philosophies meaningless and of no value?...lol

Byron said:

the mind (and its philosophies) is an aspect of the ego, a game with no substance

the truth can't be reached through mentation alone

a person does not become enlightened through thinking

MissMe said:

You may have to define what a "nobody" is first...

Byron said:

There you go.