Graycap23 said:

Why did Pippen suck so bad when he was a Rocket?!?

RodeoSchro said:

Scottie has said several times that Barkley was not prepared 2 do what it takes 2 win. Scottie was a one man wrecking crew in Portland. Had they not choked in the last 7 minutes, they beat the Lakers and go 2 the finals a few years ago.

Graycap23 said:

I know Pippen didn't like Barkley. No one liked Barkley, except for our bountifil strippers.

Pippen used to say his biggest problem in Houston was that Rudy T never told him what his job was. That sounded lame to me.

MuthaFunka said:

Now that I think about all of those Bulls scrubs.....neither can I. Just shows how good Mike and Scottie were.

Graycap23 said:

AND - How weak the 90s east was.

MuthaFunka said:

Dream and the Glide v. MJ and Pippen would have been classic.

In all honesty, I thought the best team the Rockets ever had was the '97 squad that featured Dream, Drexler and Barkley. They were on a collision course with the Bulls in the Finals until Barkley tore his bicep in the Jazz series.

Dream, Drexler, Barkley, Mario Elie, Eddie Johnson, Kevin Willis - wow, they were loaded. They were weak at the point, though. Matt Maloney and Brent Price were not title-quality, and that might've bit 'em in the butt.

I was at the final two games of the Utah/Rockets series. In Game 5, with the Rockets facing elimination, Eddie Johnson won the game on a last second shot. Pandemonium.

Then, Stockton hit the buzzer-beater/series winner in Game 6, and you could have heard a pin drop.

Mark Cuban said he would not trade Nowitski for Kobe. Also the Phoenix Suns coach said he wasn't interested in trading for Kobe.

I think Kobe will end up in Chicago. It's rumored that Kobe wants to play with Ben Wallace, so he probably won't be shipped to LA in the deal.


I could see him maybe going to Detroit. I remember hearing last year that Rasheed Wallace wants out of detroit.

Kobe would be an excellent fit with Yao & McGrady. Maybe he will end up in
houston.

What about Kobe in Denver with Iverson and Carmelo? That would be a tough team to beat if they could learn to share the ball.

MuthaFunka said:

Last I checked.....the Bulls titles were against the Best teams from the West.

RodeoSchro said:

Glide said he wish he had taken it personal like MJ did back when they met in the Finals in 92. He regretted that. So had they met again it would have been a battle like hell between those 2.

That 97 team was nice. I remember being in H-Town at the Sky Bar watching that series.

Graycap23 said:

Right, but the EASE of how they got there was what I was saying. MJ never had to face another east team that had 2 HOFers on it. Not his fault, but just stating how weak the East was when MJ ruled it.

MuthaFunka said:

? Isiah and Dumars?

Graycap23 said:

I forgot they just recently allowed Dumars in but he should have never made the HOF - But yes, the Pistons early 90s team did have 2 HOFers.

MuthaFunka said:

U think Rodman should get in? I do.

Right, but the EASE of how they got there was what I was saying. MJ never had to face another east team that had 2 HOFers on it. Not his fault, but just stating how weak the East was when MJ ruled it.

MuthaFunka said:

It wasn't easy against the Knicks in '92 or '93. They gave the Bulls all they could handle. The Pacers would do the same in the late 90's.

uPtoWnNY said:

But MJ still came out of the east damn near every year in the 90s. Then you look at how the east couldn't win a damn thang unless MJ was in the finals, which proves how weak the east was overall.

MuthaFunka said:

Hummmm.....would u say the same thing when the Sixers represented the East damn near every year in the 1980's?

MuthaFunka said:

Hummmm.....would u say the same thing when the Sixers represented the East damn near every year in the 1980's?

Graycap23 said:

No, because the east was better than the west overall in the 80s, even though there were stacked teams back in the 80s because free agnency hadn't been established until 1988. Teams like the Lakers, Celts, and 6ers had multiple HOFers and the 2 greatest teams of that era had 3 HOFers (Lakers & Celts) which is why they dominated that era.

Graycap23 said:

No, because the east was better than the west overall in the 80s, even though there were stacked teams back in the 80s because free agnency hadn't been established until 1988. Teams like the Lakers, Celts, and 6ers had multiple HOFers and the 2 greatest teams of that era had 3 HOFers (Lakers & Celts) which is why they dominated that era.

MuthaFunka said:

Interesting. It seems that the Lakers were in the final almost every year but about 3 in the 80's. U could make the same argument about them as u have about the Bulls and Mj.

Interesting. It seems that the Lakers were in the final almost every year but about 3 in the 80's.

MuthaFunka said:

Also, you had teams on the next level - not as great as the Sixers/Celtics, but still good teams(Nellie's Bucks w/Marques Johnson & Sid Moncrief, Atlanta with a young 'Nique, and an up & coming Detroit team. Even the Knicks took Bird & Co. to seven games in '84).

TonyVanDam said:

Dude, you're talking to a Laker fan since 1979. Shaq has a HUGE ego. And yeah, Shaq believed in the 1-2 punch - as long as HE was the "1". Shaq didn't like it when Penny started blowing up, especially off his "Lil Penny" commercials. Shaq loves the spotlight and he hates to share it. Shaq is a big kid which is why he's so lovable and playful, which also explains his need to have ALL of the attention. It's all about egos with these guys and neither Kobe nor Shaq could set theirs aside to keep the run going.

MuthaFunka said:

1. I'm was a Chicago Bills fan during the Jordan-era (72-10 for life!). I'm very happy that Michael & Scottie never had problems sharing the spotlight.

2. If Shaq hates sharing the spotlight so much, then why he isn't feuding with Dwayne Wade?!? It seem to me that Dwayne loves to have Shaq as a teammate better than Kobe ever did.

MuthaFunka said:

People forget Shaq was no angel during that whole fiasco. Now Magic & Kareem/Bird & McHale didn't see eye-to-eye either. But they understood the big picture.

uPtoWnNY said:

And those teams were never truly going to challenge those Celts teams to rep the Finals for the east. Free Agency changed a lot of things in basketball.