NDRU said: The toilet seat thing bring up a point. There's this bar I go to where there's a single unisex bathroom. I notice if I go in after a woman the seat's still down. But I think I'm doing women a great service by leaving it up!
You are! If they only knew what that poor seat has to endure if it's left down... | |
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INSATIABLE said: retina said: Yeah, but you still are a woman too, right?
Last time I checked. Before I say this, I want to stress that I have undying respect for women like Carrie who are passionate about women's rights and roles. That being said, I hate being contrary--but I've just never looked at myself as a gender minority. Despite having masochistic supervisors at work, gender's not really a hot topic with me. When it comes to race and orientation, things can get heated, because they're a soft spot. But chromosomes? I was raised by a single, truck-driving dad. I grew up playing baseball, carrying snakes, and kissing frogs. I'm female in every sense of the word, and I know it's unattractive to say this, but it doesn't define me in any sense whatsoever. I just happened to grow ovaries instead of testicles. And boobs. Don't forget about boobs. | |
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Moderator | I think if women were in charge of everything...
Women would get a couple of days off a month for family emergencies or their monthly visitor. Health Care would be better. There would be affordable childcare. Fat would be sexy, and chocolate would be a food group. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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INSATIABLE said: I'm female in every sense of the word, and I know it's unattractive to say this, but it doesn't define me in any sense whatsoever. I just happened to grow ovaries instead of testicles.
i get you. i feel the same way a lot of the time. | |
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retina said: INSATIABLE said: Last time I checked. Before I say this, I want to stress that I have undying respect for women like Carrie who are passionate about women's rights and roles. That being said, I hate being contrary--but I've just never looked at myself as a gender minority. Despite having masochistic supervisors at work, gender's not really a hot topic with me. When it comes to race and orientation, things can get heated, because they're a soft spot. But chromosomes? I was raised by a single, truck-driving dad. I grew up playing baseball, carrying snakes, and kissing frogs. I'm female in every sense of the word, and I know it's unattractive to say this, but it doesn't define me in any sense whatsoever. I just happened to grow ovaries instead of testicles. And boobs. Don't forget about boobs. That part of me is much more "feminine" than I'd prefer. Let's not get started on my penis envy, either... Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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evenstar said: INSATIABLE said: I'm female in every sense of the word, and I know it's unattractive to say this, but it doesn't define me in any sense whatsoever. I just happened to grow ovaries instead of testicles.
i get you. i feel the same way a lot of the time. It's a blind assumption, but it seems that a large amount of women are ultra-feminine in the way they dress, groom, and behave simply because it's generally more 'attractive' to men (in most societies). Lots of makeup, hair and skin alterations, wardrobe, speaking voice, physical movements, even. We're obviously just animals looking for the best mates, but sometimes I wonder if I'm a freak for forgetting I'm a chick sometimes. It's like there's no association there. I don't feel like a guy, but I sure as hell don't think through the "mind" of a female 99% of the time. I'm just a fucking person. It's no different than machismo. How much of it is authentic, and how much if it is gender roles and behaving for acceptance's sake? Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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Sweeny79 said: I think if women were in charge of everything...
Women would get a couple of days off a month for family emergencies or their monthly visitor. Health Care would be better. There would be affordable childcare. Do you think Hillary might make some of that happen? (shit, Carrie's prophecy is coming true here...) Fat would be sexy, and chocolate would be a food group.
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INSATIABLE said: Let's not get started on my penis envy, either... Maybe this is way too much information, but I suddenly remember one time when I was having sex with this woman and she was straddling me to start riding, but instead of letting my dick slide in, she pressed it against my stomach and sat down on my balls so that from her perspective, it looked like it was her dick. She just sat there and stared at it, mesmerized. When I asked what was so fascinating she said that she'd always been curious what it would be like to have a penis and now she could get a sense of that. It was pretty bizarre, especially since she was very feminine and didn't come across as someone who would have penis envy at all. But who knows? Maybe it's a common phenomenon. | |
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Moderator | retina said: Sweeny79 said: I think if women were in charge of everything...
Women would get a couple of days off a month for family emergencies or their monthly visitor. Health Care would be better. There would be affordable childcare. Do you think Hillary might make some of that happen? (shit, Carrie's prophecy is coming true here...) Fat would be sexy, and chocolate would be a food group.
I think Hillary would have the best intentions at heart, but royally fuck shit up worse. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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retina said: INSATIABLE said: Let's not get started on my penis envy, either... Maybe this is way too much information, but I suddenly remember one time when I was having sex with this woman and she was straddling me to start riding, but instead of letting my dick slide in, she pressed it against my stomach and sat down on my balls so that from her perspective, it looked like it was her dick. She just sat there and stared at it, mesmerized. When I asked what was so fascinating she said that she'd always been curious what it would be like to have a penis and now she could get a sense of that. It was pretty bizarre, especially since she was very feminine and didn't come across as someone who would have penis envy at all. But who knows? Maybe it's a common phenomenon. Sounds familiar. Except I'm much too modest to repeat my 'fascination' experiences here. It's just such a fantastic appendage! Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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INSATIABLE said: evenstar said: i get you. i feel the same way a lot of the time. It's a blind assumption, but it seems that a large amount of women are ultra-feminine in the way they dress, groom, and behave simply because it's generally more 'attractive' to men (in most societies). Lots of makeup, hair and skin alterations, wardrobe, speaking voice, physical movements, even. We're obviously just animals looking for the best mates, but sometimes I wonder if I'm a freak for forgetting I'm a chick sometimes. It's like there's no association there. I don't feel like a guy, but I sure as hell don't think through the "mind" of a female 99% of the time. I'm just a fucking person. It's no different than machismo. How much of it is authentic, and how much if it is gender roles and behaving for acceptance's sake? yeah, it's definitely that we're taught that girls are supposed to act/think a certain way. i've always been treated oddly by my friends for hating to talk about feelings and crap, like all woman are supposed to, but that's just how i am. does that make me less of a woman? no! | |
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retina said: INSATIABLE said: Let's not get started on my penis envy, either... Maybe this is way too much information, but I suddenly remember one time when I was having sex with this woman and she was straddling me to start riding, but instead of letting my dick slide in, she pressed it against my stomach and sat down on my balls so that from her perspective, it looked like it was her dick. She just sat there and stared at it, mesmerized. When I asked what was so fascinating she said that she'd always been curious what it would be like to have a penis and now she could get a sense of that. It was pretty bizarre, especially since she was very feminine and didn't come across as someone who would have penis envy at all. But who knows? Maybe it's a common phenomenon. I do that all the time to freak out the master | |
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ZombieKitten said: retina said: Maybe this is way too much information, but I suddenly remember one time when I was having sex with this woman and she was straddling me to start riding, but instead of letting my dick slide in, she pressed it against my stomach and sat down on my balls so that from her perspective, it looked like it was her dick. She just sat there and stared at it, mesmerized. When I asked what was so fascinating she said that she'd always been curious what it would be like to have a penis and now she could get a sense of that. It was pretty bizarre, especially since she was very feminine and didn't come across as someone who would have penis envy at all. But who knows? Maybe it's a common phenomenon. I do that all the time to freak out the master And I'm sure it works, doesn't it? | |
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I can't think of anything either, except some men should have to go to school before being allowed to marry | |
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retina said: ZombieKitten said: I do that all the time to freak out the master And I'm sure it works, doesn't it? I don't think he can see properly by that stage, his eyes are kind of unfocused | |
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ZombieKitten said: I can't think of anything either, except some men should have to go to school before being allowed to marry
oh dear. | |
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CarrieMpls said: hokie1 said: OMG Carrie. Have a baby with no drugs... I'm not having babies. But even so, it's such a powerful thing, I think it defines us as women, whether we choose to carry one or not. Besides, men would never be able to take the pain. They'd whine and moan for years after. Oh well, you know I can see your point on the whole giving birth thing. You know. Labor sucked, but right at the end when you think you can't take it anymore you push as hard as you can and your child is born. I cried from the pain, from the relief of pain, and because I had brought my child into the world. Yes, we need the man's sperm to make a baby, BUT when it comes to the work of it--it's all us. We do it all. And we are the only ones who can. Even when men say they'd take our place to take our pain they can't. | |
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retina said: hokie1 said: OMG.
Men would have to give birth and take the birth control pill. There would be one universal remote for everything. You'd never have to buy another one and it would be simple to use. ESPN would only come on the cable for 30 minutes a day. More family friendly work environments. Child care on site would be the norm, not the exception. Guaranteed paid maternity leave and some paternity leave as well. Men would not be allowed to fart in the house. I'm sure I'll think of more. Peter those you put up were great too. Thanks Jill, these were exactly the kinds of things I was interested in hearing about. So your husband is an ESPN addict and remote control juggler eh? OMG if he could he'd have 5 tvs to watch every college football game simultaneously! And yes, I'm dissatisfied with the # of remotes we have. | |
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hokie1 said: retina said: Thanks Jill, these were exactly the kinds of things I was interested in hearing about. So your husband is an ESPN addict and remote control juggler eh? OMG if he could he'd have 5 tvs to watch every college football game simultaneously! And yes, I'm dissatisfied with the # of remotes we have. I wanted to ask about every point on your list but since you shouldn't ask about things you don't want to hear the answer for, I decided to leave the farting issue alone. | |
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retina said: hokie1 said: OMG if he could he'd have 5 tvs to watch every college football game simultaneously! And yes, I'm dissatisfied with the # of remotes we have. I wanted to ask about every point on your list but since you shouldn't ask about things you don't want to hear the answer for, I decided to leave the farting issue alone. Well, feel free to ask, but if you aren't comfortable with straight answers then I guess you'd better not. I always tell it straight. | |
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We'll see when Hilliary is in office. | |
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Ex-Moderator | INSATIABLE said: evenstar said: i get you. i feel the same way a lot of the time. It's a blind assumption, but it seems that a large amount of women are ultra-feminine in the way they dress, groom, and behave simply because it's generally more 'attractive' to men (in most societies). Lots of makeup, hair and skin alterations, wardrobe, speaking voice, physical movements, even. We're obviously just animals looking for the best mates, but sometimes I wonder if I'm a freak for forgetting I'm a chick sometimes. It's like there's no association there. I don't feel like a guy, but I sure as hell don't think through the "mind" of a female 99% of the time. I'm just a fucking person. It's no different than machismo. How much of it is authentic, and how much if it is gender roles and behaving for acceptance's sake? I love the subject of gender. All in all, I think it's just about what makes us comfortable, whatever our equipment and however we choose to display our characteristics, stereotypes or not. |
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Sweeny79 said: I think if women were in charge of everything...
Women would get a couple of days off a month for family emergencies or their monthly visitor. Health Care would be better. There would be affordable childcare. Fat would be sexy, and chocolate would be a food group. They already are, in my world. | |
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INSATIABLE said: evenstar said: i get you. i feel the same way a lot of the time. It's a blind assumption, but it seems that a large amount of women are ultra-feminine in the way they dress, groom, and behave simply because it's generally more 'attractive' to men (in most societies). Lots of makeup, hair and skin alterations, wardrobe, speaking voice, physical movements, even. We're obviously just animals looking for the best mates, but sometimes I wonder if I'm a freak for forgetting I'm a chick sometimes. It's like there's no association there. I don't feel like a guy, but I sure as hell don't think through the "mind" of a female 99% of the time. I'm just a fucking person. Well put. That's generally how I feel. oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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And gawd dammit, we ARE in charge of everything. . ."pussy control. . . ouwaah" oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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Hmm. Where do I start.....?
America's political system used to be about the "pursuit of happiness." Now more and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered.
"Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other."- | |
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HereToRockYourWorld said: And gawd dammit, we ARE in charge of everything. . ."pussy control. . . ouwaah"
You got that right. Well almost everything. America's political system used to be about the "pursuit of happiness." Now more and more of us want to stop chasing it and have it delivered.
"Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other."- | |
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retina said: NDRU said: I'm thinking women might like:
Stiff fines for public farting/spitting Outlawing animal deaths in films, especially horror films that feature numerous human deaths. Johnny Depp must at least appear briefly in all new films! All men must attend mind-reading classes. Let's all hug! I've never understood why Johnny Depp is so popular among the ladies. Isn't he kind of effeminate? That's kinda the point. Contrary to the popular belief of evolutionary behaviourists and most men in general, the beefy, macho type is not what all -or even most -women prefer. As per The Depp: What role, exactly, shot him through the roof in terms of sex symbol status? An effeminate, makeup-wearing pirate. I rest my case. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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retina said: INSATIABLE said: Let's not get started on my penis envy, either... Maybe this is way too much information, but I suddenly remember one time when I was having sex with this woman and she was straddling me to start riding, but instead of letting my dick slide in, she pressed it against my stomach and sat down on my balls so that from her perspective, it looked like it was her dick. She just sat there and stared at it, mesmerized. When I asked what was so fascinating she said that she'd always been curious what it would be like to have a penis and now she could get a sense of that. It was pretty bizarre, especially since she was very feminine and didn't come across as someone who would have penis envy at all. But who knows? Maybe it's a common phenomenon. I've done that before. I wouldn't call it penis envy (the term really should be power envy, but that's another thread) and I'm prefectly happy being female, but I admit I have wondered before what it'd be like if I wound up with a Y chromosome instead of an X. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Shit would be shorter! Workplaces, stores, public spaces, even traditionally "female" spots like home kitchens are designed with a 6 foot tall man in mind. Yeah, I know, some of us ladies shop in the Big and Tall, but not most of us, not by a long shot. So why the hell is everything so high up? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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