SkletonKee said:[quote]

suomynona said:

Ah, here we go... Thanx skeltonkee.


First of all, file-sharing is just that, sharing. Everytime u get a hit on ur site u make money. Thats true 4 prince.org as well. Now whether u make a lot or a little from that doesnt matter. Fact is, ur site was getting many hits because u posted PRINCE's mp3's. using his work 2 make money just is not cool. Thats what I meant by "fnancial kickbacks"

But u knew what I meant all along, didnt u, Matthew?

Get a job.

Nep2nes said:

That is not true of all websites, Nep. I am not sure about Prince.org, but I don't believe they make cash off of this site, other than their t-shirts.


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[This message was edited Mon Oct 7 8:03:12 PDT 2002 by AzureStar]

Nep2nes said:

So according to your incredibly insightful understanding of internet commerce, website hits = cash?

Absolute rubbish. Prince.Org carries no pop-up ads, no banners, no advertisements. It is entirely sponsorship free and it makes no money for anyone. The only money involved is all outgoing - the time and money involved in running the site, the hosting and bandwidth costs.

Nep2nes said:

nep2nes=

ian said:

yeah... she's not too bright, is she? no wonder so many folks have a problem with me right now... they think i actually make money on that site due to hits? it's almost funny... if it weren't so um... sad.

if anyone were to visit freemyheart.com, they'd realize after about 5 minutes that the only person really making money off of freemyheart.com is maverick records. (based on how many records it sells of me'shell's.)

if i remember correctly, prince.org has a cdnow affiliate link that they use occasionally (like when a new album comes out...)... and the only reason they do that is to offset the costs... maybe they buy a pizza with what little they do make. same here, but mostly with amazon... and i don't get money. i get a gift certificate to use in the store. (which i used this past quarter to get my mom a new hard drive for her computer...)

as for getting a job... i've tried. washington state has the highest unemployment rate in the united states... our economy is based on building airplanes, and after 9/11, well... let's just say places like american airlines & united airlines aren't buying a whole lot of new planes... when a company devastates the local economy from one end, it has a trickle down effect...

but why am i bothering to explain this? you thought my site was making money on it's pre-MTV hit days of 300-500 hits per day. (which it is now back to.)

well, at least now i understand why you were such a on all of those posts... thinking i made money off of prince, me'shell, or any other artist i tried to turn folks onto... i wonder how many other folks think that prince.org... the npgmc... or freemyheart.com make money off of hits alone

shoot, freemyheart.com isn't even selling t-shirts.

suomynona said:

Please don't mistake what Nep2nes thinks as representative of what everybody else thinks. Even if they don't agree with you.
[This message was edited Mon Oct 7 10:13:42 PDT 2002 by Supernova]

Supernova said:

I doubt anyone would make that mistake haha

ian said:

I certainly hope not.

Supernova said:

i don't... but i'm sure she probably isn't the only one that far off their rocker...

Supernova said:

and please don't mistake that avatar-stealing bitch for me at a quick glance

really, there oughta be a law!

AaronForever said:


Might be time to consider jocking her profile picture as your avatar. Just a thought. That would be far more cruel and effective.

TRON said:

maybe something like this would be more appropriate...

suomynona said:

[pre:1:dced7579dd]LMAO!!![/pre:1:dced7579dd]

Supernova said:

or perhaps you'd prefer...

ian said:

Look at how u speak 2 me, ian. I would report u, but ur the moderator.

2 bad, isn't it?

By the way, while this site may have no ads I'll bet freemyheart.com does.

I think u need 2 ask Ben whether what u said is really true. U or matt may not get paid but Im sure Ben gets something, though it may not b much. At least, that's what I read at some point.

Nep2nes said:

What did he say to you that was inflammatory or insulting? Or is it just that he disagreed with you and happens to be right. Yes, he should know better than that. After all, you report people for that all the time.

Please explain to us Nep2nes how a website with no advertising product generates money? How "Ben gets something." I mean, you've got it all figured out apparently. It shouldn't be that hard to break it down for us.

suomynona said:

Well, if u hadnt mentioned how u were unemployed in the first place, then y would I b here discussing it? Obviously because u made a statement 2 Prince's lawyers about how broke u were. Otherwise y would Prince's lawyer have made the statement he made about u needing 2 get a job? U must have mentioned ur unemployment 2 get sympathy. It doesn't even make sense 2 mention that ur jobless in the FIRST place if the site they want 2 shut down isn't making u any money!!!

Or were u just trying 2 say that until the unemployment office contacts u, ur having fun posting mp3's on ur site? Sure.

Either way, it's bullshit. U were wrong. U knew the rules. Now don't b surprised that ur getting sued. OK?


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[This message was edited Tue Oct 8 17:55:57 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes]

Nep2nes said:

NEP'S you are wonderful.A truly sweet person

AaronForever said:

I don't know, but I DO remember Ben saying at one time that he made money, but certainly not enough 2 lie on.

Ian disagreed with me but went further with his sarcasm. Plus, u have o idea how his moderating is in favor of every1 else but never me. ALSO...u have no idea what this twat says 2 me in orgnotes.

Shameful, really. Stop being presumptuous, aaron, because u DON'T know what's going, on, alright?

Nep2nes said:

sorry, the rules have yet to be determined as to whether it's illegal to post links on your site to a bootlegged mp3 residing on another site.

Nep2nes said:

Excuse ME, you twat? His moderating is in favor of everyone else but YOU? Of the two of us, whose account got de-activated? HMMM? We have been guilty of breaking all of the same rules, but my account was de-activated. Yours hasn't. So don't start this "the moderators treat me unfairly" bullshit. My account got deactivated because I was doing to you what you do to me and everyone else. So keep your pity party in your lonely little dorm room while everyone else is out having fun and keep it off of this site, because you AREN'T treated unfairly. You've been given more leeway than ANYONE. So come off it.

AaronForever said:

Well, when Prince wins this case, perhaps it will b clearer 2 u.

"Mr. Langford" knew the rules. He wants u 2 believe he didn't. if ur smart enough 2 put an mp3 on ur site, u should b smart enough 2 obey the copyright law.


Right about when...oh, let's c here...oh yeah! Right about when Prince's lawyers contacted his ass he should have known it was wrong!!!



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[This message was edited Tue Oct 8 17:59:13 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes]

AaronForever said:

Im not even going 2 respond 2 this because ur reacting from the leftover bitterness u have over ur account being deleted.

If u still want 2 whine about it go whine 2 them. I don't have the time 2 deal with it.




[This message was edited Tue Oct 8 18:02:23 PDT 2002 by Nep2nes]

Nep2nes said:

yes, that's exactly my point. until the trial is over, if there IS a trial, we don't know what the rules are. we will afterward.



"bieve"? oh my. aren't you a bit red-faced after all that correcting you've done to everyone else?

oh, and you're still using "ur" incorrectly.

but back to the issue at hand. 1) he didn't put an mp3 on his site and 2) it is unclear whether linking to an mp3 on someone else's site is illegal. do you really need it pounded into your head any more?




surely even a simp such as yourself knows that lawyers are paid to throw their weight around and intimidate people into doing what their client wants before something goes to trial in order to get the resolution they want without having to argue their case in front of people who actually know the law (ie, the judge, the defense attorney, etc.)

Nep2nes said:

You need to re-edit this to say "Im not even going 2 respond 2 this because ur completely right."

But please, make a case as to how YOU'RE being treated unfairly? Have your posting restrictions ever been limited? Or denied? Or your orgnoting ability? Or has your account been completely de-activated?

Please please please tell us who wrongly you've been treated. We want to feel sorry for you

Nep2nes said:

there's just really nothing to say in response to someone like you... everyone else has already said it, or thought it... and those that weren't sure what the hell you were talking about were enlightened by your recent assumptions... and that's damning enough... anything i say in response to your gibberish is just overkill... you've done all the work for me... nothing else to add, that can make you look any more ignorant than you already do.

Nep2nes said:

First of all Nep2nes:

1. Sarcasm is perfectly acceptable on the site. I disagree with your point and explained to you in clear terms why what you said was factually incorrect. At no time did I insult you or break the forum rules. You on the other hand, chose to insult me again.

2. I say nothing to you in Orgnotes - you've blocked my Orgnotes. However before that when I did Orgnote you, it was only ever intended to help you. The deal was - I sent you a helpful, courteous message and I get a flood of abuse in response. You perceive animosity where none exists - I don't care enough about you to hate you.

3. As you can see from the last few days, I've moderated in your favour many times. However, you really do raise too many issues - you create your own problems by treating everyone on this site without basic civility and respect. Although we certainly will deal with any issues that are marked for our attention, it won't necessarily be a 5 minute response time as you seem to expect. Prince.org is a free site, run by a small number of individuals in their spare time.

Lastly - you'll find the moderators of this site will be more willing to help you when you start treating them with some respect and courtesy. Insults, demands, ultimatums, racist slurs, and insane ranting diatribes don't exactly instill a burning desire to help you out, you know.

ian said:

dude, cant we vote her off the damn island already?

ian said:

here are ben, matt, kevin, & ian... doing the best job they can do for the site... for free mind you... and now we hear about how they have to deal with constant orgnotes & emails from nep2nes, whining about her perceived mistreatment by others on this board that she has incited herself... one can't help but feel sorry for them

i remember being new in the chat (again) and confusing nep2nes with neptuneos... and remembering how upset neptuneos got after my innocent mistake... and wondering what the big deal why she was so upset about my confusing her (a normal, intelligent human being) with nep2nes... now i understand

neptuneos, if you're out there... i'm so sorry...

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[This message was edited Wed Oct 9 10:18:57 PDT 2002 by suomynona]

Nep2nes, that feminine spray is wearing off!