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PrintableByron said: weepingwall said: thats your point you try to meditate..meditation comes in without force..like the breeze..people meditate because the feel they have to..meditation works when you want to meditation..the way you come into meditation affects the meditation..well that's what my roshi said. 
Ok, I'm gonna have to delve more thoroughly into meditation, I see...  Don't delve sweetheart, it is not that complicated....just be somewhere comfortable and relax your body, calm your mind....  "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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does it come in chocolate? 
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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Byron said: ArielB said: Either sleep, play a game on the PC, or if I'm anywhere near a shore, I'd enjoy the calming sounds of the waves.
The ocean waves are SO damn calming to me, too ...
Also, and this is something you might appreciate, I relax and calm myself thru photography... Yes. I started school now. learning realist art. To draw and paint like the old masters. I find myself able to sit down and work on the drawing for hours, with no pressure around me. Some of the works there took several months So I'm guessing it's really a great way to therapy. | |
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Lammastide said: I lock myself in the bathroom and take a long, hot bath. Maybe bring in a book or put the radio on some relaxing station.
Up until June I was in an apartment with a jacuzzi.  My new apartment hasn't one... plus the bathroom is really ugly. I'ma have to strike some arrangement with the landlord to fix it up or something. Jacuzzi... ...baths are cool, too, but I prefer showers when I want to relax...will stay beneath one as long as the hot water holds out lol  ... | |
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cubic61052 said: Byron said:
Ok, I'm gonna have to delve more thoroughly into meditation, I see... Don't delve sweetheart, it is not that complicated....just be somewhere comfortable and relax your body, calm your mind.... Well, I meant delve into it as in study up on it lol...  | |
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Byron said: sammij said: i love shisha! i bough a hookah and everything I've never tried it...  you should try it! im sure there'll be shisha bars around! [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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cubic61052 said: does it come in chocolate?
ANY flavour you want, pretty much! [...i think i can, i think i can, i think i can...] | |
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Byron said: cubic61052 said: Don't delve sweetheart, it is not that complicated....just be somewhere comfortable and relax your body, calm your mind.... Well, I meant delve into it as in study up on it lol... Do you ever sit at home alone, in the quasi-darkness and dream, plan, create in your mind? That is also meditation.... I believe you to be cerebral and imaginative enough to be able to meditate effortlessly... "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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sammij said: cubic61052 said: does it come in chocolate?
ANY flavour you want, pretty much!
"Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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Imago said: http://prince.org/msg/100/242055
..Ok, I take it that you didn't relax too much, then lol...Or has it helped you in the past, but didn't that one time?
I could never do that...I'd need solitude. | |
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cubic61052 said: Byron said: Well, I meant delve into it as in study up on it lol... Do you ever sit at home alone, in the quasi-darkness and dream, plan, create in your mind? That is also meditation.... I believe you to be cerebral and imaginative enough to be able to meditate effortlessly... I do that practically every night when going to bed, actually... | |
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It all depends... ...Sometimes I simply let my mind go blank.....Pretty easy for me
...Other times it's just listening to the music of the moment 
...Soon it will be going to Santorini   ... er... I mean :relaxed:
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Byron said: Imago said: http://prince.org/msg/100/242055
..Ok, I take it that you didn't relax too much, then lol...Or has it helped you in the past, but didn't that one time?
I could never do that...I'd need solitude. I find meditation definitely helps, but it's like excercise. When you first get back into the gym after a hiatus, it can be exhausting, painful, and downright unpleasant. Meditation is like training the muscle of your mind so to speak, and the first couple of weeks involves doing nothing but trying to calm the monkey-mind. It's very difficult for me, and can be just as stressful as the stress I'm trying to relieve. 
But I have, in the past, been able to meditate and get to points where I see a problem or situation in a completely different light when I meditate upon it. | |
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Byron said: ...I prefer showers when I want to relax...will stay beneath one as long as the hot water holds out lol
... Oh, I do everlasting showers too! It outraged my parents and now it pisses off my wife! Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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This is the suite I stayed in while in Greece...every morning the woman who worked for the owner would knock on the door and drop off croissants, cheese, coffee and fresh-squeezed orange juice. I'd sit at the table in the photo, eat and drink the food she provided, and just stare out the door and out the window at the cliffs and sea...completely, totally relazed and calm... 
Now I wake up to the neighbor kids screaming, trash trucks banging around, and look into an empty refridgerator for a slice of cold pizza and a Coke lol ...I gotta go back. | |
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Byron said:
This is the suite I stayed in while in Greece...every morning the woman who worked for the owner would knock on the door and drop off croissants, cheese, coffee and fresh-squeezed orange juice. I'd sit at the table in the photo, eat and drink the food she provided, and just stare out the door and out the window at the cliffs and sea...completely, totally relazed and calm... Heaven. Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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evenstar3 said: mdiver said: i hate you with the burning fire of a thousand suns.  Button in LA emo you love all us English boys so much it hurts | |
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Steadwood said: It all depends... ...Sometimes I simply let my mind go blank.....Pretty easy for me
...Other times it's just listening to the music of the moment
...Soon it will be going to Santorini ... er... I mean :relaxed:
...You gotta tell me all about it when you get back  ...btw, there are dogs EVERYWHERE on Santorini, but they're amazingly calm and the place is spectacularly clean as well (at least Oia is...I didn't really visit too much else while there). | |
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mdiver said: evenstar3 said: i hate you with the burning fire of a thousand suns. Button in LA emo you love all us English boys so much it hurts psh, no way. i only like one. the rest of you are mostly obnoxious with annoying accents  | |
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Byron said: Steadwood said: It all depends... ...Sometimes I simply let my mind go blank.....Pretty easy for me
...Other times it's just listening to the music of the moment
...Soon it will be going to Santorini ... er... I mean :relaxed:
...You gotta tell me all about it when you get back ...btw, there are dogs EVERYWHERE on Santorini, but they're amazingly calm and the place is spectacularly clean as well (at least Oia is...I didn't really visit too much else while there).
Chilled out dogs 
...I gotta see
...Though I hear there is plenty of Donkey crap in Thira 
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Byron said: cubic61052 said: Do you ever sit at home alone, in the quasi-darkness and dream, plan, create in your mind? That is also meditation.... I believe you to be cerebral and imaginative enough to be able to meditate effortlessly... I do that practically every night when going to bed, actually... That is your meditation.... 
It is not necessary that is be structured, per se, to be considered meditation...IMHO "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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This I also find is a very good exercise in relaxation... Relax your mind....relax your breathing....just observe the slow movement of your breathing .....in.....and out....feel your body becoming more and more relaxed.....now allow your mind to drift.....to drift to a beautiful, natural place.....it is a peaceful place full of wonderful plants and flowers.....this is a place of complete safety where nothing can harm you.....take a few moments to look around and enjoy nature's beauty.....this is your special place....it is a place where nothing and no one can harm you....it is a place of stillness.....and calm.....In order to help you fix this place in your imagination....notice the light...what time of day is it?.....Notice the temperature....is it warm or cool....Now look around and take note of any plants, flowers and animals that you see.....experience all you notice...feel the gentle warm breeze kiss your cheek.....smell the scent of the flowers and the unique aroma of the beach....hear the birds gently calling, the breeze gently rustling the grass and the lapping of the ocean on the beach.....Feel the warmth of the sun and the safety and calm all around.....For this place is a special place of calm and freedom....Your special place.....so explore it, secure in the knowledge that you are safe.....if you allow your mind to drift with the breeze you will find yourself flying or floating gently around this wonderful place which is yours.....Listen to the sounds and follow them if you want to.....just enjoy all that you are experiencing.....and know this is a place you can truly relax and come back to whenever you wish. I have a firm grip on reality...Maybe just not this reality |
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evenstar3 said: mdiver said: Button in LA emo you love all us English boys so much it hurts psh, no way. i only like one. the rest of you are mostly obnoxious with annoying accents Awwww dedicated to spookums  | |
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Imago said: Byron said: ..Ok, I take it that you didn't relax too much, then lol...Or has it helped you in the past, but didn't that one time?
I could never do that...I'd need solitude. I find meditation definitely helps, but it's like excercise. When you first get back into the gym after a hiatus, it can be exhausting, painful, and downright unpleasant. Meditation is like training the muscle of your mind so to speak, and the first couple of weeks involves doing nothing but trying to calm the monkey-mind. It's very difficult for me, and can be just as stressful as the stress I'm trying to relieve.
But I have, in the past, been able to meditate and get to points where I see a problem or situation in a completely different light when I meditate upon it. So you meditate for clarity of mind and then thru that you achieve relief of stress...or you meditate for relief of stress and thru THAT you achieve clarity of mind? Or is it the other way around in reverse? | |
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Steadwood said: ...Though I hear there is plenty of Donkey crap in Thira
...Yeah, I forgot about that  ...There's some in Oia, too, but pretty much only on the looooong stairs that lead up and down to the Agean sea. They clean it up, but since a lot of tourists don't want to walk back up the stairs, they take the donkeys...I walked back up. Good lord, that was hard... | |
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mdiver said: evenstar3 said: psh, no way. i only like one. the rest of you are mostly obnoxious with annoying accents Awwww dedicated to spookums go write a mushy email to shanti or something already! GOD!  | |
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cubic61052 said: Byron said: I do that practically every night when going to bed, actually... That is your meditation....
It is not necessary that is be structured, per se, to be considered meditation...IMHO Whoohoo! I've been meditatin' and didn't even know it lol  | |
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evenstar3 said: mdiver said: Awwww dedicated to spookums go write a mushy email to shanti or something already! GOD! Touchy today...you got the painters in?  | |
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Byron said: cubic61052 said: That is your meditation....
It is not necessary that is be structured, per se, to be considered meditation...IMHO Whoohoo! I've been meditatin' and didn't even know it lol Is that similar to being a poet and don't know it? 
Remember: meditation is not complicated.....and if you make it complicated you are defeating the purpose! "Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them humanity cannot survive."
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