Oh, I thought this was about my favorite show on Showtime " The L Word". | |
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Lothan said: evenstar3 said: it's not just guys! girls can be wusses and hold back feelings too Yeah, I know that, too.
Everytime I've said it, I've always been first. Nope....not me. I will NEVER be the first to say. It's always been said to me. It's a female thing to me...I can't let my man know my whole heart until he gives it to me first. Bottom line | |
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I don't think it is wise to use the L word unless you really mean it from deep down in your soul.
Otherwise, it is just another word. That I believe is used to losely. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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sag10 said: I don't think it is wise to use the L word unless you really mean it from deep down in your soul.
Otherwise, it is just another word. That I believe is used to losely. “Love is too strong a word to say it too early, but it has too beautiful a meaning to say it too late” | |
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hokie1 said: Rhondab said: but I thought you said.....wha.....but...you love me....so....wait...I bought the dress.....I hate you!! I'm really awful....I thought this was going to be about lesbians... [Edited 8/29/07 9:19am] [b] @ you. Me too. | |
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evenstar3 said: it's not just guys! girls can be wusses and hold back feelings too
but it's on both sides tho. If u feel it the fear of these words "oh? that's sweet (silence).. but i don't feel the same about u tho. I'm sorry." that sentence right there will hold anyone back from telling them how they feel about each other man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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MIGUELGOMEZ said: I'm not afraid to say it when I mean it. I DID say it once without meaning it though.
Same here and never again. In fairness, I was a lot younger, inexperienced and, at the time, I honestly did think I loved him. We're still friends - so everything's cool - but I would never use those words lightly again. A guy that I was seeing did declare it to me over dinner once... I liked him a lot but it was never going to be anything serious. So when I got that feeling that he was about to say something... He said "I've got something to tell you..." and all I could think was "Don't say it! Don't say it!". And he did. But, obviously, I am glad that he was open and honest. | |
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Byron said: sag10 said: I don't think it is wise to use the L word unless you really mean it from deep down in your soul.
Otherwise, it is just another word. That I believe is used to losely. “Love is too strong a word to say it too early, but it has too beautiful a meaning to say it too late” Awwww Byron you say it so well! ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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onenitealone said: MIGUELGOMEZ said: I'm not afraid to say it when I mean it. I DID say it once without meaning it though.
Same here and never again. In fairness, I was a lot younger, inexperienced and, at the time, I honestly did think I loved him. We're still friends - so everything's cool - but I would never use those words lightly again. A guy that I was seeing did declare it to me over dinner once... I liked him a lot but it was never going to be anything serious. So when I got that feeling that he was about to say something... He said "I've got something to tell you..." and all I could think was "Don't say it! Don't say it!". And he did. But, obviously, I am glad that he was open and honest. Wow, I'm glad I never went to dinner with you 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Wow, I'm glad I never went to dinner with you
That's not meant in a nasty way, though. Just I could *sense* he was going to say something and I didn't have those feelings. And I didn't want to hurt his. It was sort of embarrassing but flattering at the same time. We talked about it and everything was cool. | |
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onenitealone said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Wow, I'm glad I never went to dinner with you
That's not meant in a nasty way, though. Just I could *sense* he was going to say something and I didn't have those feelings. And I didn't want to hurt his. It was sort of embarrassing but flattering at the same time. We talked about it and everything was cool. Glad I cut you off at the pass before you could slap me with one of these 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Glad I cut you off at the pass before you could slap me with one of these
Now now... I was a gentleman, believe me. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: evenstar3 said: it's not just guys! girls can be wusses and hold back feelings too
but it's on both sides tho. If u feel it the fear of these words "oh? that's sweet (silence).. but i don't feel the same about u tho. I'm sorry." that sentence right there will hold anyone back from telling them how they feel about each other | |
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Byron said: sag10 said: I don't think it is wise to use the L word unless you really mean it from deep down in your soul.
Otherwise, it is just another word. That I believe is used to losely. “Love is too strong a word to say it too early, but it has too beautiful a meaning to say it too late” EXACTLY!!! | |
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everybody has their list of what love is or isn't....and usually the first thing out somebody's mouth when they're hurt is "you said you loved me"
i can't speak for everyman... but i'm hesitant to say it to certain people because of what their understanding of what love does and doesn't mean | |
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SirPsycho said: everybody has their list of what love is or isn't....and usually the first thing out somebody's mouth when they're hurt is "you said you loved me"
Nah, I don't do that either. I have been hurt by people I know love me. Most of the time, they don't do it on purpose.i can't speak for everyman... but i'm hesitant to say it to certain people because of what their understanding of what love does and doesn't mean | |
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Lothan said: SirPsycho said: everybody has their list of what love is or isn't....and usually the first thing out somebody's mouth when they're hurt is "you said you loved me"
Nah, I don't do that either. I have been hurt by people I know love me. Most of the time, they don't do it on purpose.i can't speak for everyman... but i'm hesitant to say it to certain people because of what their understanding of what love does and doesn't mean well im glad you got sense...i just know we place alot of value on the word love, when the existance (or non-existance) of love between two people will thrive regardless of whether it has been expressed vocally...I take more comfort in watching someone show their love or lack or love for me without saying it....and since I feel that way, I don't cave in to any lover who says "why don't you say it?"...I just tell them "If I didn't love you, you'd know already" {not 2 pretend like I don't understand the assurance it provides...but false assurance has no value to me} | |
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SirPsycho said: Lothan said: Nah, I don't do that either. I have been hurt by people I know love me. Most of the time, they don't do it on purpose.
well im glad you got sense...i just know we place alot of value on the word love, when the existance (or non-existance) of love between two people will thrive regardless of whether it has been expressed vocally...I take more comfort in watching someone show their love or lack or love for me without saying it....and since I feel that way, I don't cave in to any lover who says "why don't you say it?"...I just tell them "If I didn't love you, you'd know already" {not 2 pretend like I don't understand the assurance it provides...but false assurance has no value to me} i agree wholeheartedly | |
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onenitealone said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Glad I cut you off at the pass before you could slap me with one of these
Now now... I was a gentleman, believe me. Well just because I couldn't see you throwing up through your tears doesn't mean it didn' happen. You know, kinda like if a forest falls into the trees and you didn't hear it, did you have a picnic or not? Or something like that 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SirPsycho said: everybody has their list of what love is or isn't....and usually the first thing out somebody's mouth when they're hurt is "you said you loved me"
"Just because the rose died on the vine, doesn't mean it lied to you while it was in bloom." These are all stored up in my head lol... | |
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heybaby said: SirPsycho said: well im glad you got sense...i just know we place alot of value on the word love, when the existance (or non-existance) of love between two people will thrive regardless of whether it has been expressed vocally...I take more comfort in watching someone show their love or lack or love for me without saying it....and since I feel that way, I don't cave in to any lover who says "why don't you say it?"...I just tell them "If I didn't love you, you'd know already" {not 2 pretend like I don't understand the assurance it provides...but false assurance has no value to me} i agree wholeheartedly thanks... hey, what happened to your avitar...it was sexi.. | |
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Byron said: SirPsycho said: everybody has their list of what love is or isn't....and usually the first thing out somebody's mouth when they're hurt is "you said you loved me"
"Just because the rose died on the vine, doesn't mean it lied to you while it was in bloom." These are all stored up in my head lol... good call | |
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SirPsycho said: Lothan said: Nah, I don't do that either. I have been hurt by people I know love me. Most of the time, they don't do it on purpose.
well im glad you got sense...i just know we place alot of value on the word love, when the existance (or non-existance) of love between two people will thrive regardless of whether it has been expressed vocally...I take more comfort in watching someone show their love or lack or love for me without saying it....and since I feel that way, I don't cave in to any lover who says "why don't you say it?"...I just tell them "If I didn't love you, you'd know already" {not 2 pretend like I don't understand the assurance it provides...but false assurance has no value to me} I made a thread about this a long time ago, but there are five different ways in which we feel loved, valued and appreciated: Through words Through touch Through acts Through gifts Through space We tend to express our love and show our appreciation for our partners through the same ways that make us feel the most loved and appreciated. They're all equally valid ways of expressing and experiencing love and value/appreciation...we, though, tend to diminish the ways which rank lower on our list as not being as "valuable" in general as the ways that rank higher on our list. | |
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SirPsycho said: heybaby said: i agree wholeheartedly thanks... hey, what happened to your avitar...it was sexi.. i got bored with it. i'm trying to think of a new one | |
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Byron said: SirPsycho said: well im glad you got sense...i just know we place alot of value on the word love, when the existance (or non-existance) of love between two people will thrive regardless of whether it has been expressed vocally...I take more comfort in watching someone show their love or lack or love for me without saying it....and since I feel that way, I don't cave in to any lover who says "why don't you say it?"...I just tell them "If I didn't love you, you'd know already" {not 2 pretend like I don't understand the assurance it provides...but false assurance has no value to me} I made a thread about this a long time ago, but there are five different ways in which we feel loved, valued and appreciated: Through words Through touch Through acts Through gifts Through space We tend to express our love and show our appreciation for our partners through the same ways that make us feel the most loved and appreciated. They're all equally valid ways of expressing and experiencing love and value/appreciation...we, though, tend to diminish the ways which rank lower on our list as not being as "valuable" in general as the ways that rank higher on our list. even better call.... (damn byron, i had to read that a couple times. .....just realized i'm listening to "love is forever"...but this is prince....coulda been any song) | |
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SirPsycho said: Byron said: I made a thread about this a long time ago, but there are five different ways in which we feel loved, valued and appreciated: Through words Through touch Through acts Through gifts Through space We tend to express our love and show our appreciation for our partners through the same ways that make us feel the most loved and appreciated. They're all equally valid ways of expressing and experiencing love and value/appreciation...we, though, tend to diminish the ways which rank lower on our list as not being as "valuable" in general as the ways that rank higher on our list. even better call.... (damn byron, i had to read that a couple times. .....just realized i'm listening to "love is forever"...but this is prince....coulda been any song) For the record, I'm a "Touch" person first and foremost...If I'm given lots of hugs, cuddling, hand holding, kisses, backrubs, etc, I'll feel loved. And I'm a "Space" person last (although I do enjoy it)...meaning, I don't feel more loved if my partner is with me all the time compared to how I feel if they're elsewhere doing their own thing. My ex-wife was the exact opposite lol... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Well just because I couldn't see you throwing up through your tears doesn't mean it didn' happen. You know, kinda like if a forest falls into the trees and you didn't hear it, did you have a picnic or not? Or something like that
I wasn't 'throwing up'. My concerns were about how he'd feel. I didn't know he was going to say it, then I sensed he was about to and I was just honest with him. But I certainly wasn't disrespectful, if that's what you mean?? It's never a nice position to be in, whatever side you are on. And I've been on both sides. | |
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Lothan,
I think a lot of men have trouble saying it to someone new because often we can remember previous times when our saying and showing "I love you" went unappreciated. All of my life, I have heard women cry that their man never says "I love you," as if love's declaration will melt away their fears and heal their wounds. As if the three words, spoken sincerely, represent the attainment of an emotional panacea by two committed adults. To quote the Gershwin gents' tune, "It Ain't Necessarily So." Yet, I persist, fool that I am, because you women are just so cute and soft, and you pretend to need us on occasion. [Edited 8/29/07 17:56pm] | |
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Calligraphy said: Lothan,
Well, someone said it to me recently and while I knew he did and showed in his actions he did, it still was kind of euphoric to finally hear him say it.I think a lot of men have trouble saying it to someone new because often we can remember previous times when our saying and showing "I love you" went unappreciated. All of my life, I have heard women cry that their man never says "I love you," as if love's declaration will melt away their fears and heal their wounds. As if the three words, spoken sincerely, represent the attainment of an emotional panacea by two committed adults. To quote the Gershwin gents' tune, "It Ain't Necessarily So." Yet, I persist, fool that I am, because you women are just so cute and soft, and you pretend to need us on occasion. [Edited 8/29/07 17:56pm] | |
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