JasmineFire said:

Apparently by less then 10% on this thread.... to me that is the sad part.


We all fuck up in some way and getting your ass spanked can either make you a better person or Would not have occured to me to sue... would have occured to me that karma caught me in the ass and perhaps I should rethink my paths and interactions. ( and im not going all puritanical up in here.... I am saying when I make a mess I cop to it and pay the price)

Makes me run out and trust and get married when I see such responses as these!

N O T !

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

i feel the same way. i;m surprised at how many people are sympathizing with this man.

JasmineFire said:

Same.

I'm not sympathizing with the man. In my original post, I specifically referred to his motives as dubious. My point -- and I think this applies to most people "siding" with him -- is that the company acted in bad faith and that a judge or jury might agree with that.

I think we all agree that he's of a scummier sort...

Calligraphy said:

Exactly the issue here isn't if he cheated or that he did cheat, the issue is 1800Flowers shared his information with a third party...that is the only issue here. Granted if it was a joint account then there is no breach though I would hope to think that he didn't use a joint credit card to purchase something for another woman.

I suppose I never thought to look to American law to protect me from such a foible!

I digress!

statuesqque said:

You ain't married, are you?

statuesqque said:

You all keep saying "a third party". That was his WIFE!!! His partner in the eyes of the law.
...and I'm sure that the LAST thing that the operator on the other end of the phone at 1-800-FLOWERS was thinking about was breaking up someone's marriage. It's a bouquet of f*cking flowers for Chr*st's sake!!! How sensitive could that be?!?!?! If you need to keep that from your WIFE then be smart about it. There are other, more sensitive fields where her inquiry would've reached a dead end. Like his bank accounts or medical records (unless he marked his files as being "open" to share with family, like I did).

If this man gets a dime, it'll be a travesty.

Calligraphy said:

That is yet to be determined.
Did he specifically specify when placing the order; "DO NOT SHARE INFORMATION WITH MY WIFE"? When she called with the note in hand...and therefore a reference number, order date, credit card account number, etc., etc. - she is no longer a "third party" but can be considered as the "customer". He was being sloppy. But since everyone is so quick to lambast big companies, then the blame is automatically laid on them.

PurpleJedi said:

no, I'm not and if I was as I've said it doesn't give me the right to invade his privacy or him to invade mine.

PurpleJedi said:

which is my point anyone who wasn't his "wife" could have called in with that information and they would have given it to them just like they gave it to her.

who
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PurpleJedi said:

Well, I don't know how much detail she provided to prove she was, in fact, the customer's wife. He just seemed to have gone to unusual lengths to learn and enforce privacy guidelines vis-a-vis his order. He and his wife were in the process of an amicable divorce, supposedly, but he seems convinced (or maybe just hopes he can convince others) that the company acted in bad faith. Enough to launch an "Ally MacBeal"-ish lawsuit...

statuesqque said:

so do you plan on being unfaithful if you ever do get married? Do you have a secret double life? I don't understand this whole hang up on a spouse "invading privacy" when it is completely possible that such privacy did not exist in the first place! Hello...JOINT CREDIT CARDS, JOINT BANK ACCOUNTS, those things do exist and when an account or a card is in both names, then there is no privacy regarding purchases.
Give this wife and the 1800FLOWERS customer rep the benefit of the doubt on this one. It very well may have been her credit card, too.

Calligraphy said:

I don't believe for a minute he went to unusual lengths to keep this private before he made the purchase. I think he got pissed when it all happened and then looked to sue the company, hoping their own privacy policy would support his claim.

CarrieMpls said:

pretty much.

JasmineFire said:

I've already said if they had joint accounts then the flower company did nothing wrong.

CarrieMpls said:

When there's a union. It's a joining of two people who supposedly are in same accord under love and God. So there's nothing to be hidden if love is really there from the start.

CarrieMpls said:

Co-sign. The pussyfooter just needs to lick his wounds and realize that Karma bit him in the ass and move on.

MsLegs said:

My issue with the breach of privacy with the 1800Flower, I do agree with you.

statuesqque said:

you said that once and you've continually said that 1880FLOWERS breached privacy. I'm just going with what you've been saying the majority of the time on that end.

Your comments on marriage and privacy are what are really odd to me. It's almost like you view marriage as a hostile union where people should be allowed to keep major secrets from each other. It's just strange to me is all.

And why would he even call his (soon to be ex) wife a "third party" anyway? His mistress is the third party....the judge should slap him with a summons for being so dog on stupid and then commence to slapping him with one of the roses (the thorny end) from the same group of flowers he sent to the other woman for emphasis!

JasmineFire said:

I don't see it as a hostile union but I don't believe you should lose your indiviuality just because you did get married and apart of that for me is keeping somethings that are my own.

statuesqque said:

i can definitely agree with that statement.

They were in the middle of a divorce anyway so wtf??? Why would either one of them care in the first place? Their marriage was over/ending anyway.

Move the fuck on, people.

Stop flooding the courts with retarded lawsuits.

JustErin said:

that's the key part that seemed to have been overlooked in this.

JustErin said:

Didn't you know? MONEY is the root of all sorts of injurious things....

SisterGirl said:

Indeed. The love of it is the root of all evil.

Calligraphy said:

Ah yes. The "buddah call"
"thank you for teaching me the American ways of love"

funny.

Calligraphy said:

I agree....to many here I think are focusing on the fact that he cheated.....and yeah yeah karma and he got caught ...scum bag and all that..whatever ....
I was actually looking at the fact that this company if it did indeed pass details on to a person who was not on the credit card violated their own privacy policy