Well?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

only if they charged more for it

If they had souls, would they stop eating each other?

If a dog had a soul, would it still try and hump my sister's leg?

No.

i like souls food

of course they have souls and they are delicious!

I don't believe in souls. But animals are family. I'm trying to minimize the meat I eat. It's very difficult.

i wanna say yes but most likely not, and thats horrible

Imago said:

just don't eat it!

If we have souls, then they do. How many people would argue with that? Is that really the issue?

They're obviously capable of suffering, and modern farming methods are inhumane.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

factory farms are giant concentration camps churning out death, as well as a grotesquely efficient distributing mechanism for very bad karma to the consumer.



lawd. I need to find a way off animal based food.

Imago said:

isn't knowing that enough?

ZombieKitten said:

I'm American. We churn out death at alarming rates due to our consumer-centric hedonism, but we just can't stop. It's like crack.

Imago said:

but you don't HAVE to, nobody is forcing you

if you want to change, just do it! your excema and ringworms will disappear, I'm pretty sure of it

ZombieKitten said:

Imago said:

One way: pick four days per week that are strictly animal-free. Add a 5th if/when you're ready. And so on. If everybody even cut down by half, the industry would be forced to change, you know?

And make sure to find new foods that you like, rather than just removing stuff from your diet. It's easier if there's stuff to be enthusiastic about.

ZombieKitten said:

Yes, I'm cutting back alot this year.

The problem is that I'm not a good person, per say Charlotte. I have a guilty conscience but that doesn't mean its strong enough for me to do good all the time.

With the limiting of meats and dairy, my eczema is subsiding finally, but I need to swap all the way over. Honestly, I think I'm doing it for vanity moreso than an altruistic endeavor, but I don't know. I'm in a wierd place morally right now.

what if vegans found out that fruit and vegetables feel pain?

Imago said:

oh no you have that all backwards, I HAVE NO conscience, no matter how bad I am

and as to vanity vs altrusim, doesn't matter IMO, if you go all the way

Fury said:

Newsflash: they do, their screams are simply on a frequency we can't hear

Imago said:

I think that very few of us care enough to "be good people" all day, every day. For me it was just about making a decision, setting out rules for myself, and following them without thinking about it. If I had to decide whether I felt more like steak or compassion every damn day, compassion would frequently lose.

I also transitioned my diet pretty gradually, sorta removing one thing at a time, but some people find that harder than going cold turkey (so to speak).

Cutting back is good, eh?

Fury said:

We'd buy from farms that minimized the pain.

It's possible to do that with animals too, though difficult.

It's not about being perfect, it's about doing one's personal best. And that varies.

for Melissa, I am beginning a no meat day. Not sure which day it will be but I'm gonna do it and maybe I can graduate from there

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Souls or not, they're getting in my belly.

I would in a heartbeat.

You would have to prove to me that nature created an animal that produced bacon, sausage, ham, pork chops, tenderloins, pork rinds, and pigs feet and expected us NOT to eat it.

No. Not even a small chance of that. Souls or no souls, the food chain still exists, and I'd wager if I came across a hungry, carnivorous animal in the wild and he figured he had a shot, I'd be dinner.

Mars23 said:

you mean: if god hadn't wanted us to eat animals he wouldn't have made them out of meat