Dewrede said:

Well thanks for the judgement!



If you wanna be veggie fine....i see nothing wrong with it. Don't call me sick brainless and barbaric because i choose differently, just like i won't criticize your life choices in the way you live. ?
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Dewrede said:

Well thanks for the judgement!



If you wanna be veggie fine....i see nothing wrong with it. Don't call me sick brainless and barbaric because i choose differently, just like i won't criticize your life choices in the way you live. ?
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Dewrede said:

Well thanks for the judgement!



If you wanna be veggie fine....i see nothing wrong with it. Don't call me sick brainless and barbaric because i choose differently, just like i won't criticize your life choices in the way you live. ?
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mdiver said:

Ok..speaking of meat...cynthiasocks appreciation thread... *cough*

shanti0608 said:

hey

mdiver said:

How can you say killing animals for consumption isn't barbaric ?


Sorry , i'm rather fanatic on this issue


OK , i'll stop ranting now

Dewrede said:

Hello- hope you are well

Dewrede said:

Good idea

mdiver said:

How can you say killing animals for consumption isn't barbaric ?


Sorry , i'm rather fanatic on this issue


OK , i'll stop ranting now

Dewrede said:

Well thanks for the judgement!



If you wanna be veggie fine....i see nothing wrong with it. Don't call me sick brainless and barbaric because i choose differently, just like i won't criticize your life choices in the way you live. ?
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for Melissa, I am beginning a no meat day. Not sure which day it will be but I'm gonna do it and maybe I can graduate from there

Well?

mdiver said:

Just to play devil's advocate, how laid-back and openminded is a person supposed to be when they see something in the world that they believe is unjust and cruel? Aren't we supposed to speak up in the face of that? Where's the line?

How could that ever be proven?
We can't even prove that humans have a 'soul'.

FuNkeNsteiN said:

eXACTLY.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I think that everyone on all sides of this should be open minded enough to see and respect the other perspective....I'm a meat eater, but I don't hate on vegans about their choices...whereas sometimes, they can get downright self righteous about the whole "don't eat meat" thing....to me, whatever floats your boat....in the end, we will all be judged for our choices...and only the saved will walk thru the gates....the rest will burn in the fiery lakes.....


this is how it sometimes seems to me when vegans get up on their soapboxes.....just my

Sen. Byrd Calls Dog Fights 'Barbaric'
Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:46 PM EDTpolitics, unknown, byrd, dogfightingCharles Babington, AP WriterImages (showing 1 of 2 photos)
Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick grimaces on the sideline after being helped off the field during the second half against the Philadelphia Eagles in their football game in this Dec. 31, 2006, file photo in Philadelphia. Vick and three others were indicted Tuesday, July 17, 2007, by a federal grand jury in an investigation into illegal dog fighting. (AP Photo/Rusty Kennedy)

Dog pens and houses are empty in a fenced area behind a home owned by Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick in Surry, Va., in this May 31, 2007 file photo. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

WASHINGTON — Allegations of a vicious dogfighting ring prompted an unusually emotional speech in the Capitol Thursday, as the Senate's longest-serving member fought tears and called for God's judgment on those who promote such activities.


"Barbaric," Sen. Robert C. Byrd, D-W.Va., shouted four times in a Senate chamber that was mostly empty except for two dozen somewhat startled tourists.

"Let that word resound from hill to hill and from mountain to mountain, from valley to valley across this broad land," he thundered, raising his right hand. "May God help those poor souls who would be so cruel. Barbaric! Hear me!"

Federal agents have charged Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick and three others with procuring and training pit bulls for fighting in Virginia and elsewhere. Investigators say some losing dogs died in the pit or were later electrocuted, drowned, hanged or shot.

Byrd, 89, said he would not prejudge the men's guilt or innocence, but he left no doubts about his sentiments.

"I am confident that the hottest places in hell are reserved for the souls of sick and brutal people who hold God's creatures in such brutal and cruel contempt," he said.

"One is left wondering," he said. "Who are the real animals: the creatures inside or outside the ring?"

When he finished, Massachusetts Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, who sometimes brings his Portuguese water dogs to work, said, "Great speech, Bob." As Byrd left the chamber, a Senate page and TV reporter shook his hand and thanked him, and a young woman had her photo taken with him.

mdiver said:

Just to play devil's advocate, how laid-back and openminded is a person supposed to be when they see something in the world that they believe is unjust and cruel? Aren't we supposed to speak up in the face of that? Where's the line?

HereToRockYourWorld said:

The line is respect. You can put your point over but there is no need to imply a person is sick,barbaric and brainless along with the use of sarcasm. I have no problem accepting the point, just respect me for my viewpoint.

mdiver said:

Hey Phil...we should discuss this thread over a steak and some beer...

pardonme4livin said:

I like fillet....blue..... DON'T over cook it or i WILL send it back

mdiver said:

Blue? What kind of fillet is blue? And I like mine medium well...