lazycrockett said:

There were so many times when I thought everybody was gonna eat it Pauly when the club was empty, AJ in the car w/ the girl, Phil Leotardo (well he did but just when I gave up on it, POP!), Tony when he went to visit Uncle June, the entire restaurant scene, Meadow in the car...

Meadow trying to parallel park was SO suspenseful. We were yelling, "Get in the lines, get in the lines! TURN THE WHEEL, DAMN IT!" I peed myself a little.
[Edited 6/11/07 6:29am]

I went and read the HBO Soprano forums and it's worse than the NPGMC ever was! They're over there hailing that crappy ending as "pure genius", "thought provoking", and "inspired"...

They say Chase just wanted it to be done...HELLO? It was done!!! What the hell was the point in bringing it back with all the hype? If that's all he was going to do with it, the whole freakin' season was a waste of time!!!

With all the hype they kept generating...I was expecting the final episode to be out cold with betrayals, deceptions, shoot outs, the ghosts of Tony Montana and Al Capone running around, the Feds kicking in doors and kicking ass then finally Justice...Tony's ass in an orange jumpsuit being led to the Pen...cut to black!

Was that so hard to do?
[Edited 6/11/07 6:43am]

THIS GUY ON SOME BLOG I READ PUT IT BEST ON SOME BLOG I READ . . .


No need for an alternate ending - Chase's ending was crystal clear. Tony was taken out as Meadow entered the diner. The viewers have always seen the episodes from Tony's point of view. The screen went black and there was nothing but silence. That is what Tony sees and hears when he finally gets killed. Remember the conversation with Bobby at the lake? "I wonder if you hear the one that gets you". He never heard the one that killed him.

IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT
YOU WILL COME TO REALIZE THAT THAT ENDING WAS SHEER GENIUS

joshybostel said:

now that is thought provoking!
and makes a lot of sense, the silence and the black was startling for me, I kept trying to figure out why there was no music there is always music and that totally make sense to me.

tony's point of view, I can't wait to see what the guys on Slate say about that one.

joshybostel said:

That actually makes a lot of sense. The opening scene when Tony is sleeping on his back with his head on that white pillow looked a lot like someone in a coffin. Def. a case of foreshadowing, IMO. It seemed like the whole episode was built around exaggerated motions:someone pulling an envelope out of an inside jacket pocket, guys coming into the diner with low baseball caps..that type of thing. Also, in last weeks episode, Bobby got killed because he didnt change his routine. Last night it was obvious that the Sopranos had been to this diner countless times. "T" went back to his routine cause he thought it was safe. Suprise!

Fuck David Chase and anything else he does in the future, this was shit.

See ya HBO!

CalhounSq said:

hoe funny was it when they showed the guy throwing up at the gas station when Phils head got run over.

yeah I laughed out loud at that whole scene and then wondered to my self what kind of person I was to laugh at that

butterfli25 said:

well, whatever kind of person you are, count me as one too, because that was comedy!

Yeah, I was kinda torn with the ending, it was genius, but i still think Chase is a bitch for not giving us what we wanted.

He set everything up beautifully (did you see that big fucking gun Tony had ) and kept my heart pounding to the very end. i knew as soon as Tony started flipping threw the songs that each one of those tracks were different endings to the show and the bastid chose Journey 'Don't stop believing'.

i guess that was his way of saying they lived happily ever after. A.J. got a new job in the film industry (which will turn into porn ) Meadow got a lex and Tony's still the man.

yeah, it wasn't the mayhem i had anticipated, and hey, from Tony's POV, that was the best ending he could've asked for. Though, it's inevitable that Tony will have to testify at a federal trial after finding out one of his guys turned over to the Feds.

Btw, did anyone else crack up when that FBI agent was happy that Phil got whacked?

Chase, i really wish you would've let Tarantino, those cat's who did the matrix trilogy or someone else with a true passion for violence write your ending.

Oh yeah, was Meadows attempt at parking a lex, Chase's poke at Lexus now being able to park itself? 'Cuz dude was really up on a soapbox this last season. He was really hard on Americans being glutton consumers and A.J. always going off about the war in Iraq and then wanting to go to war in Afghanistan seemed like a him throwing in his political views on the sly.

the joke was on us, David Chase crapped in our faces and reminded us that we cared too much for a dispicable character.....


Bobby & Tony on the boat in episode 78 Soprano Home Movies


Tony is dead.....

magnificentsynthesizer said:

I believe you have totally missed what this show was about, 8 years long.....that's a shame!

Who was that guy at the end sitting at the bar? Was he a Hitman or did he just look like a Hitmen? I'm confused?

jaimestarr79 said:

it's whatever you believe him to be.....

For those that think Tony was killed, my question was who would kill him. Didn't New York and New Jersey kiss and make up and wasn't it the overriding belief that Phil had lost it and was better off out of the picture.

It was probably impossible to end the show in a way that would tie everything or anything up. I was disappointed but only because it is the last episode ever (allegedly) and I didn't want the show that has made me think so much over the years to end with an ambiguous "huh". But Chase was in a Catch 22 and if he ended it with someone in the Soprano family getting popped everyone would have said it was too predictable.

One has to wonder if he always knew it was going to end the way it did or if he painted himself into an artfully painted corner where every possibility would be flawed. Tony stressed how "families don't get touched" so killing anyone in the Soprano family besides Tony would have broken some unwritten Mafia code that people tended not to break on the show. Killing Tony overtly would have been a letdown if some two bit punk had come into the diner and plugged him, as opposed to him going down in a sea of bullets in a climatic gun battle with Phil. Actually seeing him get indicted would have been what the big lug deserve but how much a downer would it have been if the last episode had been a prolonged court scene (Hello Seinfeld!) God the man deserves to go to jail for so many reasons but how many fans of the show and the character wanted to see that.

I'm going to miss the hell out of the show. Ultimately I just wish they could have found more from that guy from "Doogie Houser" to do.

GottaLetitgo said:

Tony had to go.....Phil had already ordered the hit as an acting-boss, especially after Phil's whacking he had to go.....for the rest I agree with your post!
Funny, I haven't seen the episode yet but spent a lot of time reading about it today.....will watch it hopefully later tonight when the download is finished!

abierman said:

whatever man, i totally caught what the show was about. I just wanted a bad ass ending, that's all. yeah, i totally get what Chase has done over the years and love(d) it, and if you read my initial post i did say the ending was genius, but i was torn. i wanted shit to be blown up, death, WAR DAMNIT! all i got was a SUV catching fire and Phil being popped in the head and his truck rolling over his face.

abierman said:

Wow. you totally spoiled it for yourself, didn't you.

Have fun.

joshybostel said:

Plus when u think of it, they did it the stereotypical way. Tony looked the guy right in the face before he passed him and went into the bathroom. Then when they showed where the bathroom door was in relation to where the Soprano family was sitting, u could see they were sitting right in front of the door. All the guy had to do is come out and shoot. This reminded me of The Godfather.

magnificentsynthesizer said:

yeah, the disadvantage of following a show in Europe on american schedule.....I just couldn't get past it!

pardonme4livin said:

Could not agree more. I felt like I totally wasted my time watching that ending. It was a complete copout by Chase. He didn't want to commit to an ending, so he left the door open, but for what? I could care less at this point.

bellanoche said:

I disagree.....he didn't.....as stated before, during the whole series it was Tony's view on things.....and then it went black! Clear enough!

Not disappointing. Not at all!

Nikki Leotardo killed Tony. The guy who looked at him and then walked to the toilets was Phils nephew. No kidding, he was listed so in the credits and he played him in season 6.1 during a sit down with the NY crew.

And the black screen is indeed the way Tony sees it or not, cause he is dead.

Chase ended it like he promised.

Thanx for a hell of a ride Mr. C.!

JohnDoe

JohnDoe said:

AND... there was no more music...

DiminutiveRocker said:

Yes, that is right. No music. If you got some time, watch season 6 again and note how often they talk about "you don't hear it coming". Tony Soprano is dead, no doubt about.

John Doe

JohnDoe said:

Well, i've seen posted on other boards, that maybe it was the viewer who got whacked.

if Tony were to get whacked we would've saw it coming, we did see it coming for everyone else, didn't we?