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Thread started 05/30/07 11:27am

jaimestarr79

Kobe traded for Greg Oden

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Greg Oden?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?
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Reply #1 posted 05/30/07 11:28am

pardonme4livin

jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Garnett?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?


Deal..... we need a new face for the Wolves.... nod Kevin deserves a ring somewhere!
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Reply #2 posted 05/30/07 12:02pm

jaimestarr79

I predict he goes to the Bulls.

Kobe has always said he wasn't a fan of Michael Jordan.( What a Lie)

But isn't funny how Kobe:

Walks like Mike
Has mike Manerisms when he talks
Kobe changed his number like Mike

Kobe wants to be mike.

Kobe WILL NEVER BE as good as Mike.
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Reply #3 posted 05/30/07 12:03pm

Sowhat

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jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Garnett?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?


Maybe you should change the title of your thread, as it stands now ('Kobe traded for Kevin Garnett') I thought it actually happened mad !

However, if that trade did somehow happen, the Lakers would get the better of the deal.
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Reply #4 posted 05/30/07 12:08pm

jaimestarr79

Sowhat said:

jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Garnett?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?


Maybe you should change the title of your thread, as it stands now ('Kobe traded for Kevin Garnett') I thought it actually happened mad !

However, if that trade did somehow happen, the Lakers would get the better of the deal.



I wanted to hear some ideas from Orgers on some possible trade senarios. Who would be an equal trade for Kobe. I think Garnett for Kobe would be an even trade. I'm not a kobe fan but I respect his game.

What about Greg Oden or For Kobe? Kobe for Kevin Durant?
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Reply #5 posted 05/30/07 12:09pm

jaimestarr79

Vince Carter for Kobe would be a fair trade.
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Reply #6 posted 05/30/07 12:13pm

live4lust

I read some rumor that he wanted to go to Chicago. But I don't see that happening.
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Reply #7 posted 05/30/07 12:19pm

jaimestarr79

Trade Kobe to New York for:

Jared Jeffries
Eddie Curry
Nate Robinson
Steve Francis
Jamal Crawford
Malik Rose
Channing Frye
Stephon Marbury

That's a fair trade! lol lol

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Reply #8 posted 05/30/07 12:23pm

jaimestarr79

Where's Graycap on this one? He is a big sports fan.
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Reply #9 posted 05/30/07 12:23pm

Sowhat

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jaimestarr79 said:

Sowhat said:



Maybe you should change the title of your thread, as it stands now ('Kobe traded for Kevin Garnett') I thought it actually happened mad !

However, if that trade did somehow happen, the Lakers would get the better of the deal.



I wanted to hear some ideas from Orgers on some possible trade senarios. Who would be an equal trade for Kobe. I think Garnett for Kobe would be an even trade. I'm not a kobe fan but I respect his game.

What about Greg Oden or For Kobe? Kobe for Kevin Durant?


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No way, any team would be real foolish to trade either Oden or Durant for Kobe.

Don't get me wrong, Kobe has big time talent (arguably the best in the league), but he also has a bad attitude and out of control ego which is like a cancer on the roster.

Look what he did in LA, they had won three titles in a row, but he had to get his way and off went Shaq and Coach Jackson (who eventually came back) and the Lakers have not been the same since.

Now he is insisting on a trade. Kobe is too much like T.O. (Terrel Owens), he has all the talent in the world, but if he is on your roster he is like a cancer that eats away your team from the inside (just look at the 49ers, Eagles and now Cowboys).
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Reply #10 posted 05/30/07 12:24pm

Sowhat

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jaimestarr79 said:

Sowhat said:



Maybe you should change the title of your thread, as it stands now ('Kobe traded for Kevin Garnett') I thought it actually happened mad !

However, if that trade did somehow happen, the Lakers would get the better of the deal.



I wanted to hear some ideas from Orgers on some possible trade senarios.


OK how about a title something like this "Possible trade senarios for Kobe Bryant"?????
"Always blessings, never losses......"

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Reply #11 posted 05/30/07 12:26pm

jaimestarr79

Sowhat said:

jaimestarr79 said:




I wanted to hear some ideas from Orgers on some possible trade senarios. Who would be an equal trade for Kobe. I think Garnett for Kobe would be an even trade. I'm not a kobe fan but I respect his game.

What about Greg Oden or For Kobe? Kobe for Kevin Durant?


shake

No way, any team would be real foolish to trade either Oden or Durant for Kobe.

Don't get me wrong, Kobe has big time talent (arguably the best in the league), but he also has a bad attitude and out of control ego which is like a cancer on the roster.

Look what he did in LA, they had won three titles in a row, but he had to get his way and off went Shaq and Coach Jackson (who eventually came back) and the Lakers have not been the same since.

Now he is insisting on a trade. Kobe is too much like T.O. (Terrel Owens), he has all the talent in the world, but if he is on your roster he is like a cancer that eats away your team from the inside (just look at the 49ers, Eagles and now Cowboys).


Kobe could make any team a championship contender. It would talk oden or durant a few seasons to make and impact. At least Kobe could give a team immediate results. He could make a real sudden impact for the Suns, Nets, Mavs, or The Bulls. You know Mark Cuban is going to pursue Kobe Big Time!
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Reply #12 posted 05/30/07 1:13pm

Sowhat

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jaimestarr79 said:

Sowhat said:



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No way, any team would be real foolish to trade either Oden or Durant for Kobe.

Don't get me wrong, Kobe has big time talent (arguably the best in the league), but he also has a bad attitude and out of control ego which is like a cancer on the roster.

Look what he did in LA, they had won three titles in a row, but he had to get his way and off went Shaq and Coach Jackson (who eventually came back) and the Lakers have not been the same since.

Now he is insisting on a trade. Kobe is too much like T.O. (Terrel Owens), he has all the talent in the world, but if he is on your roster he is like a cancer that eats away your team from the inside (just look at the 49ers, Eagles and now Cowboys).


Kobe could make any team a championship contender. It would talk oden or durant a few seasons to make and impact. At least Kobe could give a team immediate results. He could make a real sudden impact for the Suns, Nets, Mavs, or The Bulls. You know Mark Cuban is going to pursue Kobe Big Time!


Oden is a young and talented big man. It may take a year or two, but you simply can't take a chance on passing on a talent like that. Championships are more often than not built around a dominate presence in the middle, like Oden probably will be.

Look what happened to the Lakers, they had to choose between Kobe and Shaq, they let Shaq go and the Lakers have yet to return to the finals while Shaq won another title in Miami. Again the dominate presence in the middle.

Also Oden is young (19), Kobe is getting up there (Kobe has played 9,000 more minutes in his career than Jordan did at this point). Oden should be dominant for the next decade or so while Kobe is probably close to starting his decline.

Same with Durant, he is young and should be good long after Kobe has left the league.

Kobe, if he puts his ego and pride aside could help many teams, but you take that chance that he will be a cancer and ruin your team. Also, you have to figure in what a team will have to give up for Kobe.
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

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Reply #13 posted 05/30/07 1:16pm

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jaimestarr79 said:

I predict he goes to the Bulls.

Kobe has always said he wasn't a fan of Michael Jordan.( What a Lie)

But isn't funny how Kobe:

Walks like Mike
Has mike Manerisms when he talks
Kobe changed his number like Mike

Kobe wants to be mike.

Kobe WILL NEVER BE as good as Mike.


AND THERE IT IS!!!!

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Reply #14 posted 05/30/07 1:22pm

Graycap23

Trade him 2 the Bulls.....for whom ever they want.
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Reply #15 posted 05/30/07 1:24pm

JediTodd

I don't want to see his face all over Minnesota. No trade...for my own personal reasons. lol
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Reply #16 posted 05/30/07 1:27pm

carmand

Sowhat said:[quote]

jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Garnett?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?


Maybe you should change the title of your thread, as it stands now ('Kobe traded for Kevin Garnett') I thought it actually happened mad !




nod Scared the shit outta me!!
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Reply #17 posted 05/30/07 1:40pm

Sowhat

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carmand said:[quote]

Sowhat said:

jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Garnett?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?


Maybe you should change the title of your thread, as it stands now ('Kobe traded for Kevin Garnett') I thought it actually happened mad !




nod Scared the shit outta me!!


lol
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

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Reply #18 posted 05/30/07 1:41pm

carmand

Sowhat said:

jaimestarr79 said:



Kobe could make any team a championship contender. It would talk oden or durant a few seasons to make and impact. At least Kobe could give a team immediate results. He could make a real sudden impact for the Suns, Nets, Mavs, or The Bulls. You know Mark Cuban is going to pursue Kobe Big Time!


Oden is a young and talented big man. It may take a year or two, but you simply can't take a chance on passing on a talent like that. Championships are more often than not built around a dominate presence in the middle, like Oden probably will be.

Look what happened to the Lakers, they had to choose between Kobe and Shaq, they let Shaq go and the Lakers have yet to return to the finals while Shaq won another title in Miami. Again the dominate presence in the middle.

Also Oden is young (19), Kobe is getting up there (Kobe has played 9,000 more minutes in his career than Jordan did at this point). Oden should be dominant for the next decade or so while Kobe is probably close to starting his decline.

Same with Durant, he is young and should be good long after Kobe has left the league.

Kobe, if he puts his ego and pride aside could help many teams, but you take that chance that he will be a cancer and ruin your team. Also, you have to figure in what a team will have to give up for Kobe.


You make some interesting points, however, consider that there is no guarantee that Oden and Durant's games will translate to superstardom in the NBA. They are both incredibly talented, but they played one year against college ballplayers and most of the best college aged players are already in the NBA. So who was their competition? In Kobe you have someone who many feel is the most talented player in the league and he is JUST NOW entering what are usually considered his prime years. I think that you will see many more 50+ scoring games from Kobe in the future. Will Durant ever have one? After his freshman year it seem that he might be capable, but without having played one minute in the league it is hard to say. Anyway, I think that it would difficult for Portland to turn down a deal that would land them Kobe for the #1 pick. By the way, I am NOT a huge Kobe fan, but he can ball.
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Reply #19 posted 05/30/07 1:54pm

jaimestarr79

carmand said:

Sowhat said:



Oden is a young and talented big man. It may take a year or two, but you simply can't take a chance on passing on a talent like that. Championships are more often than not built around a dominate presence in the middle, like Oden probably will be.

Look what happened to the Lakers, they had to choose between Kobe and Shaq, they let Shaq go and the Lakers have yet to return to the finals while Shaq won another title in Miami. Again the dominate presence in the middle.

Also Oden is young (19), Kobe is getting up there (Kobe has played 9,000 more minutes in his career than Jordan did at this point). Oden should be dominant for the next decade or so while Kobe is probably close to starting his decline.

Same with Durant, he is young and should be good long after Kobe has left the league.

Kobe, if he puts his ego and pride aside could help many teams, but you take that chance that he will be a cancer and ruin your team. Also, you have to figure in what a team will have to give up for Kobe.


You make some interesting points, however, consider that there is no guarantee that Oden and Durant's games will translate to superstardom in the NBA. They are both incredibly talented, but they played one year against college ballplayers and most of the best college aged players are already in the NBA. So who was their competition? In Kobe you have someone who many feel is the most talented player in the league and he is JUST NOW entering what are usually considered his prime years. I think that you will see many more 50+ scoring games from Kobe in the future. Will Durant ever have one? After his freshman year it seem that he might be capable, but without having played one minute in the league it is hard to say. Anyway, I think that it would difficult for Portland to turn down a deal that would land them Kobe for the #1 pick. By the way, I am NOT a huge Kobe fan, but he can ball.



I agree 100%. That was my point. At least Kobe has proved himself. Oden and Durant haven't. But it makes interesting conversation when you think trading Kobe for one of these two. I think Oden is going to be the next Shaq in my opinon, but that my be 5 or 6 years down the road. If a team wants to win now they better choose Kobe.
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Reply #20 posted 05/30/07 2:05pm

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carmand said:

Sowhat said:



Oden is a young and talented big man. It may take a year or two, but you simply can't take a chance on passing on a talent like that. Championships are more often than not built around a dominate presence in the middle, like Oden probably will be.

Look what happened to the Lakers, they had to choose between Kobe and Shaq, they let Shaq go and the Lakers have yet to return to the finals while Shaq won another title in Miami. Again the dominate presence in the middle.

Also Oden is young (19), Kobe is getting up there (Kobe has played 9,000 more minutes in his career than Jordan did at this point). Oden should be dominant for the next decade or so while Kobe is probably close to starting his decline.

Same with Durant, he is young and should be good long after Kobe has left the league.

Kobe, if he puts his ego and pride aside could help many teams, but you take that chance that he will be a cancer and ruin your team. Also, you have to figure in what a team will have to give up for Kobe.


You make some interesting points, however, consider that there is no guarantee that Oden and Durant's games will translate to superstardom in the NBA. They are both incredibly talented, but they played one year against college ballplayers and most of the best college aged players are already in the NBA. So who was their competition? In Kobe you have someone who many feel is the most talented player in the league and he is JUST NOW entering what are usually considered his prime years. I think that you will see many more 50+ scoring games from Kobe in the future. Will Durant ever have one? After his freshman year it seem that he might be capable, but without having played one minute in the league it is hard to say. Anyway, I think that it would difficult for Portland to turn down a deal that would land them Kobe for the #1 pick. By the way, I am NOT a huge Kobe fan, but he can ball.



Oh definitely there is no guarantee at all that either Oden or Durant will be successful in the NBA, none what-so-ever. There have been plenty of "can't miss" busts. But there is no guarantee either that Kobe won't get hurt (or Oden or Durant either) or under perform or destroy a team from the inside out.

And there is much more to Basketball than scoring 50 points a game (I may be mistaken but I don't remember Duncan scoring 50 points in a game and he has how many championships??). Kobe scored plenty of 50 point games this year and they did not even win their division or get out of the first round of the playoffs.

There is also rebounding, passing, physicality, attitude, etc....other intangibles that greatly effect the game that are not necessarily reflected in the box score.

Kobe is proven, but I have a gut feeling that especially Oden is going to be a superstar in the NBA that if done right, multiple championships can be won if a team is built correctly around him.
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Reply #21 posted 05/30/07 2:06pm

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jaimestarr79:


....If a team wants to win now they better choose Kobe...


That is probably true unless a team has to give up too much to get him.







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Reply #22 posted 05/30/07 2:30pm

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I say we just make him towel boy for a team, not that he would be any good at that.
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Reply #23 posted 05/30/07 3:12pm

Graycap23

jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Greg Oden?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?
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That trade would NOT work from salary cap perspective.
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Reply #24 posted 05/30/07 3:26pm

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Graycap23 said:

jaimestarr79 said:

Kobe wants to be traded.

Do you think Kobe will be traded for Greg Oden?

What are other Kobe trade possibilities?
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That trade would NOT work from salary cap perspective.


The salaries need to be within 75% of each other and with the rookie salary cap you would need to include many more players on Portland's side. I believe Kobe is scheduled to make around $23,000,000 next year.
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Reply #25 posted 05/30/07 5:17pm

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jaimestarr79 said:

I predict he goes to the Bulls.

Kobe has always said he wasn't a fan of Michael Jordan.( What a Lie)

But isn't funny how Kobe:

Walks like Mike
Has mike Manerisms when he talks
Kobe changed his number like Mike

Kobe wants to be mike.

Kobe WILL NEVER BE as good as Mike.


Trade Kobe to The Bobcats so he'll answer to his new boss, Bobcats co-owner, Michael Jordan! evillol
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Reply #26 posted 05/30/07 5:50pm

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Kobe for Dwyane Wade straight up.

Lakers want to get younger, why not bring in Wade. Heat want to win, what better way then paring KB up with former teammate, Gary Payton.
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Reply #27 posted 05/30/07 6:07pm

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Trade Kobe to the Development League so he can develop some class. thumbs up!
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Reply #28 posted 05/30/07 6:42pm

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Trade him to the kindergarten league so he can go ahead and play 1 on 5...disbelief


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Reply #29 posted 05/30/07 6:45pm

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theAudience said:

Trade him to the kindergarten league so he can go ahead and play 1 on 5...disbelief


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Hell he probably can not even count to 5. lol
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