Sowhat said:

No, that was a great play and I give Baron credit for it. I just really hate it when teams resort to dirty, bullying tactics. Jason Richardson was way out of line in clotheslining Okur. It wasn't a case of just a hard foul. Richardson went over to Okur afterwards and said, "Stop being a pussy". That's just a cheap shot from a player pissed off at his poor performance and unable to deal with the fact that his team was losing. Not a class act at all, and I would say exactly the same thing if a Utah player had done the same.

ok so Stat and Diau are suspended, Horry suspended... good for fuckin horry Goddam spurs play nothin' but Dirty ball..

IAintTheOne said:

It's total bullshit. Horry's forearm may just give San Antonio the series. Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen left the bench in the 2nd quarter when Elson dunked, but they aren't being suspended.

Moonbeam said:

i know, they were saying on the news here that the nba stated that there was No altercation and Duncan will not be suspended... wtf???

IAintTheOne said:

Nevermind the fact that Amare and Boris didn't get anywhere NEAR the confrontation.

The NBA is Tim Duncan's bitch. I admire Duncan's game and everything, but the way the league panders to him is a bit much. Way to give the Spurs another championship.

Damn.....the Bulls showed some heart. I'm in SHOCK.

Graycap23 said:

The Bulls showed heart and the Pistons showed boredom. Not good for Detroit!

Utah's atrocious free throw shooting has kept Golden State in Game 5.

1 point game with under 3 minutes to go. C'mon Jazz.

Jazz win!

Utah is the first team in the Conference Finals, a level the Jazz have not reached since 1998. Great season, Golden State! You shocked the world in beating Dallas and provided some much-needed joy for your fans who experienced a 13-year playoff drought. If the Warriors keep their team intact next year, they will be truly scary. My hat is off to Golden State, but my heart is with the Jazz. See you in Game 1, Phoenix or San Antonio!

Moonbeam said:

it better be the suns... the spurs don't deserve going on from all the dirty game playing they have been doing in this series... poor nash gettn picked on n every game... he is gonna need a body cast before its all done

purplekisses said:

I'm hoping it's Phoenix as well. The suspensions amaze me. Stu Jackson may have just given San Antonio the series.

Moonbeam said:

Look at it like this....when Baron Davis dunked, Utah was still playing hard, they were still trying.

When Okur tried to dunk, GS had basically waived the white flag. There were not really playing defense, in fact Jason Richardson was way off Okur, content to let him sit there and run out the clock.

But NOOOO....Okur tried to dunk when he should not have and he got punished for it. Bottom line. That's it. There are unwritten rules in pro sports and one of them is you don't try to show a team up by piling on and show-boating when the other team has conceded.

In general they police themselves, so if for instance in Baseball, if you steal a base while being up big, the next pitch is coming right at the batter. In NASCAR, if you don't use proper etiquette to pass or get out of the way, you get pushed into the wall. In Basketball, if you try to go to the hoop for a spectacular dunk when the other team has conceded, you get a very hard foul.

That just is how it is in Pro Sports.

Moonbeam said:

No, Okur broke the unwritten rule and paid the price. You just don't try to show a team up in that kind of circumstance.....PERIOD. Jason Richardson is a class act, he has never been accused of being a dirty player and was just sticking up for his team.

Moonbeam said:

Congratulations to UTAH. They played hard and earned it against a very hot team.

The Conference finals should be very good, no matter if its Utah vs Phoenix or Utah vs San Antonio. Utah will be well rested and who ever wins the Suns - Spurs series should be pretty beat up....literally!

Moonbeam said:

The Pistons don't respect the Bulls but they had better show up quick.

Graycap23 said:

I have to give the Bulls a lot of credit, when they went down 3 - 0 they could have easily given up. Detroit better wake up quick or they might become the first team in NBA history to blow a 3 - 0 lead in a seven game series.

Sowhat said:

It is hard 2 get 4 a team u KNOW u can beat. Detroit is trying 2 coast thru this series. It might backfire. I hope it does.

Graycap23 said:

Sometimes when you try and coast through a series you should win, and it starts getting close, it is just too hard to turn it back on. Let's hope that is the case here!

Sowhat said:

Both times, the game was out of reach. My point still stands.

As for what happens in other sports, I don't condone that either. Intent to injure another player/competitor is not sportsmanship.

Sowhat said:

Baron Davis broke the same "unwritten rule". And Richardson showed NO class with that foul. Period.

Sowhat said:

I totally disagree. Sticking up for what exactly? The game was done. It didn't matter whether Okur dunked, shot a three or just held on to the ball and let the clock run out. It's not important. A class act would just let it go. In the current climate of suspensions it showed a lack of intelligence too.

fhqwhgads said:

A class act would not have tried to dunk in that situation!

Moonbeam said:

You are comparing apples to oranges.

When Baron Davis dunked, Dallas was still playing hard and still had a very slim chance of winning. Baron's dunk sealed it.

When Okur tried to dunk, the Warriors had stopped playing and the games outcome was not in doubt.

Okur was the one who showed no class!





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fhqwhgads said:

This just supports my point. If it was such an innappropriate foul, especially in this current climate of suspensions, why wasn't Jason Richardson suspended????? I didn't even hear any talk of him being suspened.









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fhqwhgads said:

Once again you are proving my point. The game was done, the ONLY reason why Okur would be trying to dunk in that situation is to rub it in the Warriors face. A BIG in pro sports!

So Okur paid for it. I bet you Okur never tries to do that again!

Sowhat said:

Perhaps he was lucky? Not everyone who might have been suspended during these playoffs has been. When it comes down to it all you're left with is a dunk, which is within the rules, and a hard foul, which isn't. Unwritten rule or not, there's really no comparing the two. If the benefit of the doubt has to be given to one or the other I'd tend to go with the one who didn't actually commit a foul.

We're obviously not going to agree on this. I do understand what you're saying about the dunk within the context of the game, but I believe the onus is on the opposition in such an instance to be disciplined and not commit what is unequivocally a foul in the game of basketball. The whole thing about 'rubbing it in' is purely a reflection on the indiscipline of the other player brought into being way of the reaction. Otherwise, it's just a dunk.

damn spurs.... i think the suns should play dirty so they can win the next 2 games

purplekisses said:

I don't understand the position the NBA has taken by suspending these players. This is as close 2 FIXING a game as they come. I don't get it.

Graycap23 said:

exactly... they could of have done the suspension at the begining of the season... this is handing the series to the spurs who has been playing dirty ball ..... i was hoping the suns was going to keep the fire going but i knew they would burn out by the end.. and then to top it off the spurs got the final points on fouls... more dirty playing