ThreadCula said:

he was dealing with a dobermann that was afraid of slick, shiny floors. so he took the dog to the owner's office on a choke chain, and ran into the building with the dog in tow, forcing the dog to run on the floor. that could have very easily gone very wrong. but people want 15-minute TV solutions.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Thats horrible!

My dobie doesnt like slick floors. When she's in the kitchen she walks very slowly.

ThreadCula said:

awww...i love dobies! doesn't it make sense? you'd be careful walking on a slick surface, too - they're walking on their toes, for goodness sake!

my sister and brother in law had a german shephard that had been returned to the breeder
after two years with his new family. he ate everything! for a loooong while
till he felt secure that he wouldn't be abandoned again. even after he was always kind of a kook
chewing on sticks and the occasional stone!

excersise, reassureance, kong chew toys...
and don't leave him at a kennel anytime soon or you will be back at square one.



bart turned out to be the best dog ever... there will never be another one like him.
( after a long life that included hip displasia and in the end a brain tumor )

emm said:

kongs are great.

i'm glad you stuck it out with Bart and i'm sure he had a great life with you guys!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

We're going to try the harness that you suggested. He really isn't difficult to walk and now knows to sit whenever you stop walking. He doesn't try to get away when he's walking on leash, it's when the door is open and he bolts out and then it's a game of chase and he enjoys it too much to let us catch him easily.

Really the main problem is chewing,he chews on his front legs and on anything else that catches his fancy. Our other dog is a 5yo female Australian Cattle Dog who is very dominant herself. She is the lead dog and considers it her job to take care of us all. She won't even let the puppy sniff her much less hump her. She initiates any playing they do together and lets him know when she's done playing. She'll jump up and nip at his neck to get him to do what she wants. I've never seen him nip at her, maybe Meg has though.

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Really? He seems so calm much of the time, but who knows when we're out. We probably will get the crate, but hate to do it. I doubt that he was ever crated before- he was a country dog, who knows if he was ever in a house before he came here. We've only heard him bark a couple times. it's half husky howling and half barking,sounds kind of like a donkey braying. I don't think it would go over well with the neighbors and the super lives right upstairs from us.

SureThing said:

Got any ideas for us?

shellyevon said:

cool - thanks for giving the harness a shot. i've sent Meg my e-mail address, so if you guys want to go through the program, just let me know!

IrresistibleB1tch said:

I think it's worth a try, thanks!

shellyevon said:

A harness? You mean a "Halti"?

JustErin said:

no, a step-in harness like this:



if a dog still pulls too much, it can be paired with a Halti (with a double-ended leash). and a Halti alone is not a good option, imo, since it can lead to neck problems.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Everything I have read says that putting a harness around the strongest part of their body just encourages pullers to pull even harder, which was definitely the case with my dogs. The only thing that worked for me was the halti, but you have to be really carefull with it as it can slip off. You're only supposed to use it if you are actively teaching them to heal, not just throw it on everytime you go for a walk...which I see a lot of people doing.

Haresses are perfect for when your dog has already learned not to pull....or so my friend, who is a vet, says.

Is a Halti the same thing as a greyhound halter?

JustErin said:

there's a difference between the "long" harnesses, where the ring hits farther down on the dog's back, and the step-in kind, where the rings are at the dog's shoulder blades. i agree that the long harnesses can encourage pulling, but these really don't, in my experience.

i agree, a lot of people use only the Halti, and it worries me, especially when they use it with a retractable leash. the dog may go after a squirrel or something and hit the end of the leash at full force, which pretty much guarantees a neck injury. i wished the Halti people made that clear on their packaging.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

Ok, cool. Didn't know that there were different types.

Are there any good dog training books out there that somebody can recommend?

jaimestarr79 said:

you mean other than the one i'm writing?

anything by Jan Fennell, the "dog listener" is great.

Meggys! WTF!! When did you get bitten by the Org.Bug

Howz'it, anyhow

Good luck with your doggy training. Good luck to Shell with keeping your place in one piece too

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emm said:[quote]



hey where'd you get those sticks my boy would LOVE them!!!!

butterfli25 said:

just image googled "durable dog toy" but the site that is from is http://www.paws-and-tails.com

i had bought a heavy duty throwing stick kinda like that that bart really loved... and it lasted a long time

shellyevon said:

I hated the idea of a crate too, but we introduced it to aid with housebreaking. We would put my boy (Sebastian) in while we were home and in the room, then leave the room some but make noise so he knew we were still home. Eventually we left the house for a minute then longer, eventually he was fine. It really didn't take too long about 2 weeks of MAJOR consistency. We didn't respond to crying, and only let him out if he was quiet. It took a lot but we got to the point where we could say "crate" and he'd go in on his own, we used toys and treats as bait

Now we say crate when people come over and introduce him slowly, he's big and most people are afraid of him he comes out slowly and says hi.

now when he does something wrong(chewing up pens on the floor) and doesn't meet us at the door when we come home he "hides" in his crate, it's his safe place.
Sebastian doesn't bark either, he kinda growl whines in the house and only barks outside at the fence when the neighbors dogs are barking.
I had a shepherd husky mix as a kid, he was great, but he needed lots of work, he chewed everything too

my dog loves that bitter apple stuff too.

emm said:

cool thanks

Sebastian loves his KONG and almost everything else gets destroyed immediately. I got him a bone from Old Navy but he doesn't like it. The only thing that is sacred is the "Purple Ball"

We bought a huge bone- one of the real ones- and he's been really happy, hasn't even chewed on his knees at all. Maybe that'll do the trick. Perhaps he was really bored after all. He demolishes the biggest rawhide bones in less than a couple hours.

shellyevon said:

yeah and that's not good for their tummys

lol my sister's dog left his mark (as in he chewed) on their dining room table, the dining room chairs, the entertainment unit, the papazan chair, a side table... and he chewed a bunch of cd's that i left on the floor i think he even chewed his first dish till i bought him a heavy duty one.

after he would demolished any ball in minutes i finally found a softball sized durable plastic one that would last a season before he had it wrecked.
he loved to play in the yard with that.

emm said:

I don't know, we never gave a dog real bones before. This is one of the big ones that are supposed to be okay, we'll watch and see.

A ball that lasts a whole season? I don't know if that will ever happen with him. . Our other dog cherishes her toys, or did before they were devoured by Rugghu. She never chewed anything she shouldn't and we've had her since she was 9 weeks old. Now she's almost toyless. She had a little squeaker mouse and was so gentle with it, carried it around without closing her mouth around it, she was so sad when it was lost in a fire.

senik said:

His namesake told her that he'd be trouble.

He ate my ottoman, my shoes,tv remote, some clothes and almost all of Stellar's things. And I caught him starting in on the sofa.

Megs tried to send him to Pat's but Pat said "Not until we're married and you move in too."
[Edited 1/30/07 17:02pm]

I tryed a Halti the other day but he bit my hand when I went to remove it, I wont try that again, I have been useing a regular collar the last few days and it doesnt seem to be a problem although he doesnt heel and pulls a bit, I havent walked him just let him run in the feild (on a lunge line) We're going to buy a crate for him this weekend. We got some bitteryuck and a nice sized bone which seems to do the trick with the chewing. I took him to the store with us earlyer and bought some treats when I came back to the car I gave him one and told him he was a good boy (since he didnt eat the seat again) He got all excited He never reacted like that before. I had a step-in harness for my other dog, it just made her pull more and to the point she ended up walking on her hind legs. Shes small enough we let her get away with it and joked about how cute it is. (i know bad thinking) but being small we pick her up if she get to be to much. Poor babys just depressed from lossing all her beloved toys

How's this for a harnesss?
I want to get this one for my baby



http://houndsaroundtown.c.../index.htm

ThreadCula said:

that's the type i'm talking about.