OMG I just found out last nite, that one of my husbands friends, 14 year old son hung himself.

I can't stop thinking about it.

What couold of happened that a 14 year old, would want to kill themselves.

OMG, I hope no other kids ever feel like that.

omg that's terrible

We actually had a workshop on suicide prevention early in the school year. It seems teen suicide is on th rise big time.

It's such a waste.

Poor kid, poor family.

SureThing said:

It is very sad....my daughter's 14 year friend shot himself
a couple months back.....
I guess nobody really knows what is in anothers head...very sad

shayblackfeather said:

WHAT????

I'm just shocked all this.


KIM:
What did they say in the class? Why is it on the rise?

SureThing said:

They told us how to look for the signs of a person who is thinking about taking their own life. And they taught us how to talk to them about it. They didn't say why it's on the rise. But they did say that depression is common across the board, just makes sense it would affect kids as well.

Sweeny79 said:

I just can't get over why a 14 year old would feel so helpless.

Gawd, I was so happy at 14, I can't imagine WHAT would make you feel like that.

I don't know the guy, my husband goes to a class with him.

Apparently the dad, when he was young, watched his dad murder his mom. So you would think that either made him a good dad, or a not so good dad.

I can only imagine what this poor kid went through.

SureThing said:

You were happy at 14?

Omg...

I'm surprised half the 14 year olds in the world don't off themselves.

The teen years are so fucking awful.

But from what little I know of psychology...most people that take depression to that extreme have some inherited trait that makes them more likely to be depressed. And from what you said...it seems there might be a history of mental illness in the family.

check this out:

http://aacap.org/page.ww?...20Families


Suicides among young people continue to be a serious problem. Each year in the U.S., thousands of teenagers commit suicide. Suicide is the third leading cause of death for 15-to-24-year-olds, and the sixth leading cause of death for 5-to-14-year-olds.

Teenagers experience strong feelings of stress, confusion, self-doubt, pressure to succeed, financial uncertainty, and other fears while growing up. For some teenagers, divorce, the formation of a new family with step-parents and step-siblings, or moving to a new community can be very unsettling and can intensify self-doubts. For some teens, suicide may appear to be a solution to their problems and stress.

Sweeny79 said:

Really???

OMG, I loved those years. And I thought for the most part everyone else did too.

Checking it out.


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SureThing said:

I wouldn't step back ina time machine to revist those years if you gave me all of Bill Gates' dough.


Also the other thing is, Teens do not have the maturity to think in abstract terms like adults do.

They see suicide as a way of revenge or getting noticed or escaping an immediate
problem. They know they will "die" but they do not really understand what death means. They are still kids after all.

for you dani

Sweeny79 said:

Maybe were opposites then.

My teens early 20's rocked, and I feel like shit's just gonna go down hill from here. Not enough to consider suicide though.

I read about the teens feeling the burden of finances, divorce and so on.

Yeah, I never had to worry about anything. My parents kept me pretty shielded, which prob isn't great.

I guess it should be a balance.

I would DIE though, if I ever felt like my kids felt unloved or killing themselves.
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SureThing said:

Well I was a geek who liked Prince music, poetry, theater and existential literature. That makes me a pretty odd adult at times, but as a kid I might as well have walked around with a kick me sign on my back.

I know what you are saying about your kids, and I just don't know what to say except just love them as best you can. Which I'm sure you already do.

And as for you and your life ging down hill.... things pass, things change... whatever you are dealing with now will change nd pass as well.

Its soo sad to hear this.

Kids just arent kids anymore.. gone are the days when they had no worries, no responibilities and life was easy... Kids now seem to suffer tremendous amounts of pain to want to end their short lives so tragically.

That's terribly sad. But I don't think it's anything new. I don't know what the reason was here, but bullying has always been a problem sometimes pushing kids to kill themselves. Sadly a lot of adults dismiss bullying by saying that "everybody goes through it" (which is not true at all) or "it builds character"...

REDFEATHERS said:

I agree.

I have a nephew that is a senior in high school now, and I thought for sure he would end up a user or in some kind of trouble. Luckily he isn't.

But he got drug through the mud in his parents divorce. They made the divorce the kids problem as well as theirs, and the whole thing was really sad and immature.

Anyways, he could have easily taken his life too. So I guess its like Kim said, a lot of it also has to do with the way your brain is wired. And how you cope.

SureThing said:

Bingo!

It's medical and it's also how well of a support network you have in place.

Sweeny79 said:

It was just never an option or ever even thought about when I was a kid.. yeah I would get mad and run away.. I think I run away once but got to the end of the road and turned back home.. but I was a KID and any troubles I had lasted maybe a day.. I could always go to bed with a clear mind.. and great expectations for a new day

REDFEATHERS said:

I thought about it as a kid, I think about it now as an adult to be completely honest. But I have a strong faith and it's not really the fear of hell that stops me, but the desire to do whatever it is God put me here to do.
Without that who knows where I'd be.... that's just the bare truth of it all.

REDFEATHERS said:

Yeah. Same here.

But me and my brother, who were raised under the same roof, are totaly different. He had the same childhood I did. But he turned out a criminal and a drug user.

Another example of being wired different.

Sweeny79 said:

I have thought about it, and tried it as an adult.. where it comes from I really dont know.. but for a kid to think about that, its just heart breaking..

REDFEATHERS said:

I know what you mean

Sweeny79 said:

I think that has a lot to do with it too.

Sweeny79 said:

Do you really think so?

I've made 3 attempts in the last 11 years... the last one not that long ago and only one person knows about it

who knows...

by the way
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Sweeny79 said:

fuckkk and as a child I could be so damned cruel to others in my class, and I got a guilty feeling that if I did what I did then, now then my victims of bullying would probably be dead or seriously fucked up..

its strange how the world changes..

SureThing said:

Yeah I consider faith as " part of the support system" in place.

Natisse said:

God Tisse...

REDFEATHERS said:

I know. I always tell my husband, the first time I hear of my kids making fun of someone (cuz they all do) I'm gonna beat his little ass.

Natisse said:

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Sweeny79 said:

oh I'm absolutely sure I wouldn't be the only one here... I'm probably just the only one silly enough to say it out loud, so to speak.

The area I grew up in was, at one stage at least, the capital of youth suicide in Australia