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retina said: No it's not. It's not some kind of attitude that I have chosen, it is a fact that positive and negative go hand in hand and balance each other in this universe. If you haven't experienced the negative as strongly as I have, then I'm sorry, but then you have not had a chance to experience the positive as strongly as I have either. I hope you will one day though.
 I've traveled this world and consorted with princes and paupers. I've seen "negatives" that would make your head spin (including within myself emotionally). And I'm here to tell ya: It is all about choice. |
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happy? no. surviving? yes.
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retina said: JustErin said: Happy but a little stressed at the moment.
Congratulations to your 5000th post. I bet you didn't even notice when it happened. You have now become completely assimilated by the org.  I didn't notice, I'm not even sure where to notice it. Nevermind...I figured it out.  [Edited 12/19/06 12:03pm] | |
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Ace said: retina said: No it's not. It's not some kind of attitude that I have chosen, it is a fact that positive and negative go hand in hand and balance each other in this universe. If you haven't experienced the negative as strongly as I have, then I'm sorry, but then you have not had a chance to experience the positive as strongly as I have either. I hope you will one day though.
I've traveled this world and consorted with princes and paupers. I've seen "negatives" that would make your head spin (including within myself emotionally). And I'm here to tell ya: It is all about choice. Dude, if anyone's head would be spinning it would be yours, if you'd heard the stories of my life. If we absolutely have to compete over who is more well travelled and experienced than I bet I'd beat you by a mile. I've seen the extremes when it comes to both hardships and joys, so don't even try that attitude with me. | |
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I think it's fair to say we've all experienced the full range of emotions. My Legacy
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Ace said: retina said: No it's not. It's not some kind of attitude that I have chosen, it is a fact that positive and negative go hand in hand and balance each other in this universe. If you haven't experienced the negative as strongly as I have, then I'm sorry, but then you have not had a chance to experience the positive as strongly as I have either. I hope you will one day though.
I've traveled this world and consorted with princes and paupers. I've seen "negatives" that would make your head spin (including within myself emotionally). And I'm here to tell ya: It is all about choice. ...for you. I'm sure you're not presuming to know what it's all about for anyone else. You both need a  and a 
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retina said: Ace said: I've traveled this world and consorted with princes and paupers. I've seen "negatives" that would make your head spin (including within myself emotionally). And I'm here to tell ya: It is all about choice. Dude, if anyone's head would be spinning it would be yours, if you'd heard the stories of my life. If we absolutely have to compete over who is more well travelled and experienced than I bet I'd beat you by a mile. I've seen the extremes when it comes to both hardships and joys, so don't even try that attitude with me. You're totally misreading my tone. No comparison is being drawn. You implied that I haven't "experienced the negative" as strongly as you have and I'm telling you that I have. |
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FunkMistress said: Ace said: I've traveled this world and consorted with princes and paupers. I've seen "negatives" that would make your head spin (including within myself emotionally). And I'm here to tell ya: It is all about choice. ...for you. I'm sure you're not presuming to know what it's all about for anyone else. I'm saying that everybody has a choice as to whether they want to be "happy" or "sad". You can throw up your hands and say that it's beyond your control and that you're doomed to misery, or whatnot, but I don't believe it. |
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Ace said: retina said: Dude, if anyone's head would be spinning it would be yours, if you'd heard the stories of my life. If we absolutely have to compete over who is more well travelled and experienced than I bet I'd beat you by a mile. I've seen the extremes when it comes to both hardships and joys, so don't even try that attitude with me. You're totally misreading my tone. No comparison is being drawn. You implied that I haven't "experienced the negative" as strongly as you have and I'm telling you that I have. So "I've seen negatives that would make your head spin" is not a comparison? And now you're comparing us again in your second sentence, so don't be a hypocrite.  | |
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Ace said: FunkMistress said: ...for you. I'm sure you're not presuming to know what it's all about for anyone else. I'm saying that everybody has a choice as to whether they want to be "happy" or "sad". You can throw up your hands and say that it's beyond your control and that you're doomed to misery, or whatnot, but I don't believe it. I happen to agree with you, but you're kind of coming across as if your beliefs are hard true fact for everyone. My Legacy
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Ace said: FunkMistress said: ...for you. I'm sure you're not presuming to know what it's all about for anyone else. I'm saying that everybody has a choice as to whether they want to be "happy" or "sad". You can throw up your hands and say that it's beyond your control and that you're doomed to misery, or whatnot, but I don't believe it. So, you don't believe in brain chemistry disorders? Because I'm pretty sure that some people, if not doomed, have an incredible uphill battle to try to maintain any reasonable level of happiness. oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1! | |
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More wisdom on this subject from that boss guy:
I put my heart and soul, I put 'em high upon a shelf
Right next to all the faith, the faith that I'd lost in myself I went down into the desert city Just tryin' so hard to shed my skin I crawled deep into some kind of darkness Lookin' to burn out every trace of who I'd been You do some sad, sad things baby When it's you you're tryin' to lose You do some sad and hurtful things I've seen living proof You shot through my anger and rage To show me my prison was just an open cage There were no keys, no guards Just one frightened man and some old shadows for bars We've all, from time to time, imprisoned ourselves in that cage. If you've seen Madonna's I'm Going to Tell You a Secret, you'll see that material things and having whomever you want does not equal happiness; it comes from within. While I can't claim to have experienced the level of wealth that Madonna has, I have been down in my own "desert city" and sampled many of the same "pleasures of the flesh" and I can tell you it's a secret well worth knowing. |
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minneapolisgenius said: INSATIABLE said: Michael Jackson.
Just bought the new His n' Hers on Amazon a moment ago.  Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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retina said: Ace said: You're totally misreading my tone. No comparison is being drawn. You implied that I haven't "experienced the negative" as strongly as you have and I'm telling you that I have. So "I've seen negatives that would make your head spin" is not a comparison? And now you're comparing us again in your second sentence, so don't be a hypocrite. It's a figure of speech. And if you wish to focus on the semantics rather than the message, that is your choice. |
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NDRU said: Ace said: I'm saying that everybody has a choice as to whether they want to be "happy" or "sad". You can throw up your hands and say that it's beyond your control and that you're doomed to misery, or whatnot, but I don't believe it. I happen to agree with you, but you're kind of coming across as if your beliefs are hard true fact for everyone. That's what I believe. |
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Bottom line: Ace is infallible. Stop questioning his beliefs! | |
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Ace said: retina said: So "I've seen negatives that would make your head spin" is not a comparison? And now you're comparing us again in your second sentence, so don't be a hypocrite. It's a figure of speech. And if you wish to focus on the semantics rather than the message, that is your choice. Oh, I got your message just fine, regardless if you sent it out conscíously or not. Don't you worry about that. | |
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Ace said: NDRU said: I happen to agree with you, but you're kind of coming across as if your beliefs are hard true fact for everyone. That's what I believe. But other people believe other things. Saying they're categorically wrong is kind of arrogant. It may just be semantics, but that's how very silly arguments about "who's suffered more" seem to come about. My Legacy
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HereToRockYourWorld said: So, you don't believe in brain chemistry disorders?
I most certainly do. And I believe that people with these sorts of problems can choose to seek help. Whether you believe in medication or therapy or a combination of the two, it's out there if you choose to seek it. |
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FunkMistress said: Imago said: Bottom
If you could have seen jus thow hetero I've been lately, you'd be so proud!
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Imago said: FunkMistress said: If you could have seen jus thow hetero I've been lately, you'd be so proud!
Does this have anything to do with that date you mentioned not long ago? Was it Friday night?  | |
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NDRU said: Ace said: That's what I believe. But other people believe other things. Saying they're categorically wrong is kind of arrogant. It may just be semantics, but that's how very silly arguments about "who's suffered more" seem to come about. I'm not arguing about who's suffered more; there's a pointless argument if ever there was one. He implied that I haven't experienced the highs and lows that he has and I'm telling him I have. |
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NDRU said: other people believe other things. Saying they're categorically wrong is kind of arrogant.
Some people believe that the Ku Klux Klan is a good thing. If saying they're categorically wrong would make me "arrogant", then so be it. [Edited 12/19/06 12:42pm] |
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Ace said: NDRU said: other people believe other things. Saying they're categorically wrong is kind of arrogant.
Some people believe that the Ku Klux Klan is a good thing. If saying they're categorically wrong would make me "arrogant", then so be it.
[Edited 12/19/06 12:42pm] No, you're arrogant because you're arrogant. Embrace it.  The Normal Whores Club | |
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Ace said: NDRU said: But other people believe other things. Saying they're categorically wrong is kind of arrogant. It may just be semantics, but that's how very silly arguments about "who's suffered more" seem to come about. I'm not arguing about who's suffered more; there's a pointless argument if ever there was one. He implied that I haven't experienced the highs and lows that he has and I'm telling him I have. Actually, he questioned "if" you hadn't experienced as much, to which you replied that you'd definitely experienced more. But that's not my point. I'm saying that people are sharing individual experiences like: "now I'm right in the middle of it, firmly strapped into the rollercoaster and along for the ride no matter what my opinion about it might be." and you're replying: "Not true." which is steering the conversation in rather unproductive directions. Your insight could be quite valuable if it was worded in a slightly different way. My Legacy
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littlemissG said: Are you happy?
Are you in the phrase when you say "I'll be happy when...." Are just not happy? if I look deep inside myself, no I'm not... I know I need to find happiness within myself no matter what my circumstances, and I'm working on it  | |
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FunkMistress said: Ace said: Some people believe that the Ku Klux Klan is a good thing. If saying they're categorically wrong would make me "arrogant", then so be it.
[Edited 12/19/06 12:42pm] No, you're arrogant because you're arrogant. Embrace it.
Here's one def. of "arrogant": making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud
I don't believe I have superior importance or rights, I am greatly assuming (but only overbearingly so if your assumptions are different) and proud, but not insolently so. Of course, my assumptions in this regard are incredibly arrogant.  |
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