1sexymf said: luv4all7 said: In all seriousness. (I KNOW I'm gonna get such a rack of shit for this) But like, as long as you don't do it ALL the time, I don't see a problem with it once in a while. Say like, if ya just eat to much one nite, and wanna get rid of some of it. I don't think theres any harm in that. Just not all the time. Some people have addictive personalities and will not be able to handle that. And there is harm in that your putting strees on yuour stomach and esophagus with all of that acid coiming up the wrong way. Okay. I'm just sayin' if ya wanna do it once in a while, I don't see what the big deal is. I would never allow my daughter to do this or anything like that, but I'm just sayin' if you feel u must, I don't see a problem with it. [Edited 11/29/06 12:48pm] | |
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1sexymf said: luv4all7 said: In all seriousness. (I KNOW I'm gonna get such a rack of shit for this) But like, as long as you don't do it ALL the time, I don't see a problem with it once in a while. Say like, if ya just eat to much one nite, and wanna get rid of some of it. I don't think theres any harm in that. Just not all the time. Some people have addictive personalities and will not be able to handle that. And there is harm in that your putting strees on yuour stomach and esophagus with all of that acid coiming up the wrong way. maybe this is more of a guy thing, i don't know, but for me, puking is like one of the most traumatic things ever. i've known girls who could be all like, "oh i just barfed, but i'm okay now." that to me is like saying, "oh, i just broke all the bones in my legs - let's go dancing!" | |
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Anx said: 1sexymf said: Some people have addictive personalities and will not be able to handle that. And there is harm in that your putting strees on yuour stomach and esophagus with all of that acid coiming up the wrong way. maybe this is more of a guy thing, i don't know, but for me, puking is like one of the most traumatic things ever. i've known girls who could be all like, "oh i just barfed, but i'm okay now." that to me is like saying, "oh, i just broke all the bones in my legs - let's go dancing!" .. | |
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luv4all7 said: AnotherLoverToo said: It's true, but not quite that easy. Just like women in bad marriages just need to "get over it" and leave. Or people who overspend/shop need to "just stop". I agree. Your rite, it's hard and takes a lot of tries. Just like quitting somking does too. Yeah, life is some fuckin' journey, isn't it!?! Always a work in progress in the most important Art Project ever! | |
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Anx said: 1sexymf said: Some people have addictive personalities and will not be able to handle that. And there is harm in that your putting strees on yuour stomach and esophagus with all of that acid coiming up the wrong way. maybe this is more of a guy thing, i don't know, but for me, puking is like one of the most traumatic things ever. i've known girls who could be all like, "oh i just barfed, but i'm okay now." that to me is like saying, "oh, i just broke all the bones in my legs - let's go dancing!" I hate to puke, too! I will do just about ANYthing not to. It was a lot easier to puke, though, when I used to get drunk all of the time. Sober vomiting sucks. | |
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luv4all7 said: AnotherLoverToo said: It's true, but not quite that easy. Just like women in bad marriages just need to "get over it" and leave. Or people who overspend/shop need to "just stop". I agree. Your rite, it's hard and takes a lot of tries. Just like quitting somking does too. why battle one extreme by going to the other? with overeating i think the problem is portioning and also keeping shitty food in the house. i don't keep stuff like little debbies or crap junk food in my apartment. if i want sweets, i have to go out and get them. usually my lazy ass won't even leave the couch to go get a cupcake from down the street. so my own problem is my solution! | |
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luv4all7 said: 1sexymf said: Some people have addictive personalities and will not be able to handle that. And there is harm in that your putting strees on yuour stomach and esophagus with all of that acid coiming up the wrong way. Okay. I'm just sayin' if ya wanna do it once in a while, I don't see what the big deal is. I would never allow my daughter to do this or anything like that, but I'm just sayin' if you feel u must, I don't see a problem with it. [Edited 11/29/06 12:48pm] I'm not being preachy. It's just that someone may read this and think they can do it and then turn up bulimic. | |
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1sexymf said: luv4all7 said: Okay. I'm just sayin' if ya wanna do it once in a while, I don't see what the big deal is. I would never allow my daughter to do this or anything like that, but I'm just sayin' if you feel u must, I don't see a problem with it. [Edited 11/29/06 12:48pm] I'm not being preachy. It's just that someone may read this and think they can do it and then turn up bulimic. Okay, well thats the last thing I would want. Kids Don't try this at home. | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: LleeLlee said: Hi carrie Ace, You've been very considerate about it, touching. I really felt moved by some of the things you said. I know you dont want me telling how your're this sweet guy, but you are Lleeeeennnnna, my love. We need to catch up. Orgnote me? Hi! I'm orgnoting you! I hope you're well. | |
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I'm an ex fattie and I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking. Then again, I started drinking coffee at the same time I quit smoking.
As far as slimming down, I don't care what any one says, obesity runs in my dad's side of the family, and I used to think it was becase we're just meant to be fat. But when I got a personal trainer, and started to seriously lose the weight, it happenned. Took about a year, but I went from a 38 inch waste down to 32 (though sometimes it goes to 34, but never higher). Talk to a wieght trainer. They can slim you down faster than anyone can. | |
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Thats another thing I was gonna say.
We replace one bad habit with another usually. I started smoking so I could quit eating, when I was 12. I quit smoking when I was 26 and started drinking a lot heavier. I quit drinking so much alcohol and now I drink a lot more iced tea. | |
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AsianBomb777 said: I'm an ex fattie and I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking. Then again, I started drinking coffee at the same time I quit smoking.
As far as slimming down, I don't care what any one says, obesity runs in my dad's side of the family, and I used to think it was becase we're just meant to be fat. But when I got a personal trainer, and started to seriously lose the weight, it happenned. Took about a year, but I went from a 38 inch waste down to 32 (though sometimes it goes to 34, but never higher). Talk to a wieght trainer. They can slim you down faster than anyone can. good job stickin to it. people dont realise that making changes to your body takes this long. It doesnt happen in a week. That goes for healing your self from illness repairing your body etc. It takes 3 months just to begin changing your body/healing. It takes a year or more to complete the entire cycle. .. | |
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SpisaRibb said: AsianBomb777 said: I'm an ex fattie and I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking. Then again, I started drinking coffee at the same time I quit smoking.
As far as slimming down, I don't care what any one says, obesity runs in my dad's side of the family, and I used to think it was becase we're just meant to be fat. But when I got a personal trainer, and started to seriously lose the weight, it happenned. Took about a year, but I went from a 38 inch waste down to 32 (though sometimes it goes to 34, but never higher). Talk to a wieght trainer. They can slim you down faster than anyone can. good job stickin to it. people dont realise that making changes to your body takes this long. It doesnt happen in a week. That goes for healing your self from illness repairing your body etc. It takes 3 months just to begin changing your body/healing. It takes a year or more to complete the entire cycle. Well, your body changes every seven years too. Some people get lucky and get better in 7 years. | |
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AsianBomb777 said: I'm an ex fattie and I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking. Then again, I started drinking coffee at the same time I quit smoking.
As far as slimming down, I don't care what any one says, obesity runs in my dad's side of the family, and I used to think it was becase we're just meant to be fat. But when I got a personal trainer, and started to seriously lose the weight, it happenned. Took about a year, but I went from a 38 inch waste down to 32 (though sometimes it goes to 34, but never higher). Talk to a wieght trainer. They can slim you down faster than anyone can. Ok, but I was kinda hoping that this thread wouldn't turn into another thread about HOW to change. More like, how we treat others and feel about others who are struggling with what we've been through. | |
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luv4all7 said: Thats another thing I was gonna say.
We replace one bad habit with another usually. I started smoking so I could quit eating, when I was 12. I quit smoking when I was 26 and started drinking a lot heavier. I quit drinking so much alcohol and now I drink a lot more iced tea. usually the results i feel from quitting something or starting a new GOOD habit are gratifying enough that i don't feel a need to replace it with anything. i started smoking during a break-up in my last semester of college. that was like 13 years ago, so i think i'm past those issues now. this will be my next big challenge. i'll be a total healthazoid once i kick this habit. i can go months without drinking, then get totally shitfaced and then not drink for months after that. i don't really think about alcohol very much - especially not while i'm drinking the stuff. [Edited 11/29/06 13:07pm] | |
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luv4all7 said: SpisaRibb said: good job stickin to it. people dont realise that making changes to your body takes this long. It doesnt happen in a week. That goes for healing your self from illness repairing your body etc. It takes 3 months just to begin changing your body/healing. It takes a year or more to complete the entire cycle. Well, your body changes every seven years too. Some people get lucky and get better in 7 years. sadly many people give up before anything really happens .. | |
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luv4all7 said: Thats another thing I was gonna say.
We replace one bad habit with another usually. I started smoking so I could quit eating, when I was 12. I quit smoking when I was 26 and started drinking a lot heavier. I quit drinking so much alcohol and now I drink a lot more iced tea. I absolutely agree!! When people don't deal with the TRUE underlying issues, then they're just going to transfer that same stuff to something else. There's some new info on people who've gotten gastric bypass surgery and how so many of them are becoming addicted to alcohol, sex, gambling....the theory is that they are still that "fat person" inside and that they just transfered the psychological issues to another habit/substance to get the same emotional payoff. [Edited 11/29/06 13:09pm] | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: AsianBomb777 said: I'm an ex fattie and I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking. Then again, I started drinking coffee at the same time I quit smoking.
As far as slimming down, I don't care what any one says, obesity runs in my dad's side of the family, and I used to think it was becase we're just meant to be fat. But when I got a personal trainer, and started to seriously lose the weight, it happenned. Took about a year, but I went from a 38 inch waste down to 32 (though sometimes it goes to 34, but never higher). Talk to a wieght trainer. They can slim you down faster than anyone can. Ok, but I was kinda hoping that this thread wouldn't turn into another thread about HOW to change. More like, how we treat others and feel about others who are struggling with what we've been through. Oh don't you worry. I'll get mistreated soon enough with my statements above. | |
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Absolutely not... just because I was able to accomplish or do something has nothing to with what someone else can or can't do... beside whom the hell am I to judge anybody. I've stopped a few bad habits and picked up others some where easy to do others weren't and still aren't but that's me, someone's personal challenge is relative to them. | |
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Anx said: luv4all7 said: Thats another thing I was gonna say.
We replace one bad habit with another usually. I started smoking so I could quit eating, when I was 12. I quit smoking when I was 26 and started drinking a lot heavier. I quit drinking so much alcohol and now I drink a lot more iced tea. usually the results i feel from quitting something or starting a new GOOD habit are gratifying enough that i don't feel a need to replace it with anything. i started smoking during a break-up in my last semester of college. that was like 13 years ago, so i think i'm past those issues now. this will be my next big challenge. i'll be a total healthazoid once i kick this habit. i can go months without drinking, then get totally shitfaced and then not drink for months after that. i don't really think about alcohol very much - especially not while i'm drinking the stuff. [Edited 11/29/06 13:07pm] Anx, you are just faaaaar too emotionally healthy. No underlying issues causing relapses, no transfer of fucked up ness! No wonder you love the crazy gals! (Courtney, Amy, et al) | |
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Ex-Moderator | Ace said: Anx said: if i quit, i really hope i don't become a nazi non-smoker. i think they're a-holes, and i don't think shaming or condescending acts of moral indignation are successful ways of making converts out of smokers.
It's the height of hypocrisy. I have been nagging LleeLlee mercilessly to quit, but I would never take the shaming or condescending approach. I must say, when I was going through the worst of quitting I found you entirely supportive and incredibly helpful, actually. |
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AsianBomb777 said: AnotherLoverToo said: Ok, but I was kinda hoping that this thread wouldn't turn into another thread about HOW to change. More like, how we treat others and feel about others who are struggling with what we've been through. Oh don't you worry. I'll get mistreated soon enough with my statements above. Silly! I mean, how do you treat/feel about the people in your life who are overweight or doing something else unhealthy that you used to do? Do you have compassion, empathy? Do you secretly (or not so secretly) loathe them, judge them? Do you think to yourself, "if I did it, then they should do it". Maybe a combo of all of the above? | |
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AsianBomb777 said: I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking.
Interesting; I didn't start working out 'til I was in my mid-twenties, but I took to that like a fish to water. Smoking, on the other hand, was a bitch! I'd go for a hardcore workout and then light up outside the gym. | |
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Actually, I'm not making light of this thread, but I have an addiction to the Internet and message boards, specifically Prince.org
Seriously. I takes up hours and hours of my day sometimes (sometimes I run out of posts and orgnotes). It hinders my productivity at work, and sometimes, when I'm at home, I look at the clock and it's too late to go to the gym. Shit, I've skipped out on clubbing with friends becuase I was enjoying the org threads so much. It comes in spurts. SOmetimes, I don't want to have anything to do with the org, but there's always some obsession that fills it's place whenever that happens. I'm liks some vain peacock chasing my latest obsessions around. | |
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Ace said: AsianBomb777 said: I can tell you that losing the weight was far harder than quitting smoking.
Interesting; I didn't start working out 'til I was in my mid-twenties, but I took to that like a fish to water. Smoking, on the other hand, was a bitch! I'd go for a hardcore workout and then light up outside the gym. You work out? ~faints~ GOt pix? orgnote me. | |
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CarrieMpls said: Ace said: It's the height of hypocrisy. I have been nagging LleeLlee mercilessly to quit, but I would never take the shaming or condescending approach. I must say, when I was going through the worst of quitting I found you entirely supportive and incredibly helpful, actually. You bitches are just intent on ruining my rep aren't you? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, folks!... | |
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AnotherLoverToo said: Anx said: usually the results i feel from quitting something or starting a new GOOD habit are gratifying enough that i don't feel a need to replace it with anything. i started smoking during a break-up in my last semester of college. that was like 13 years ago, so i think i'm past those issues now. this will be my next big challenge. i'll be a total healthazoid once i kick this habit. i can go months without drinking, then get totally shitfaced and then not drink for months after that. i don't really think about alcohol very much - especially not while i'm drinking the stuff. [Edited 11/29/06 13:07pm] Anx, you are just faaaaar too emotionally healthy. No underlying issues causing relapses, no transfer of fucked up ness! No wonder you love the crazy gals! (Courtney, Amy, et al) oh, i certainly have my share of ugly vices, but either they're well hidden or else i keep the severity of my indulgences relative to my means as some weird kind of survival mechanism. i grew up an only child of a single parent who was not often well, so i grew up with little other option than to take care of myself. i guess as an adult, that preservation mechanism is still in place. it's not that i don't let myself indulge or have fun (sometimes too much) - but i'm a total control freak about the quality of my life. i'd never let myself go under. | |
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Ace said: CarrieMpls said: I must say, when I was going through the worst of quitting I found you entirely supportive and incredibly helpful, actually. You bitches are just intent on ruining my rep aren't you? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, folks!... I still think your kinda creepy. | |
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