Fauxie said:

You won't accept less than a hot woman - I hope you are not saying i should settle. That's a sure fire way to be unhappy

Your method does not attract hot women- It has in the past. All my girlfriends were really pretty.

All the hot women are taken anyway- Yes. 8 out 10 usually are.

You don't have a hot woman- The babe is pretty but we are not really a couple anymore.

You don't have a woman- No.

You don't get sacktime- Not right now.

You won't change your method- I don't see any other method that will improve my love life.

Spats said:

Or lower their standards.

JustErin said:

No, women do lower their standards.lol Millions and millions of women are currently dating jerks/bad boys.

Spats said:

But obviously, unfortunately for you, they are not lowering them enough to give you that sacktime.

JustErin said:

Why would giving me sacktime be lowering their standards??

JustErin said:

Why would giving me sacktime be lowering their standards??

So approaching this from a purely superficial angle, a hot woman is supposed to see a guy who admits himself is not hot looks-wise, and without being wowed by his charm, wit, or intelligence owing to the fact he will not make the move, she's expected to approach and set in motion a chain of events that will lead to beautiful sacktime (though sans oral).

To which you responded:



A women would be lowering her standards so incredibly low to actually date a guy like the one Fauxie mentioned (and you pretty much agreed to being).

No one does that.

And you're not getting sacktime.

Spats said:

Why are you not getting sacktime from women you think are hot? That's the question. How can you change the way things are going?

JustErin said:

Why is that lowering their standards?

Spats said:

Wait a sec. Where is the highlighted part of Fauxie's post?

It is there where you will find the answers you seek.

JustErin said:

No, because it's just his opinion that those are negative qualities.

JustErin said:

No, because it's just his opinion that those are negative qualities.

Spats said:

Seriously, here's a newsflash for you.

Woman like looks in a guy. If there is no great looks, humour and wit are a turn on, if there is none of that, intelligence can be really attractive, if there is none of that, I guess money might entice some....but going by how you present yourself on here and the things you have admitted to....you have none of these qualities.

That my friend, would be the ultimate lowering of one's standards.

The best you can do is hope that you meet someone that is also lacking in all these qualities so you can get your sacktime.

And even then, the odds of keeping a girl that will tolerate your admittedly vanilla, dull ways in bed are pretty slim.

But good luck!

It's been fun playing. I need some sleep.

Now, back to Americans vs Japanese.

The evolution of this thread is disturbing. It went from dissing us classless Americans to a Brit in Thailand and a Hot Canadian woman giving love advice to a social misfit? ONly on the org!

Spats said:

What are negative qualities? Wit, charm and intelligence? On the contrary, they're positive attributes. If we simplify this, much as I loathe to, but I think it's probably necessary here, we could say those 3 qualities plus looks go a fair way to determine how much a girl might be attracted to a guy. Your method of not approaching a woman pretty much takes away the potential for the hot woman to be attracted to the first three qualities and leaves only looks. You yourself have admitted you're not a really hot guy, but rather average or a little above average, so what exactly are you expecting the hot girl to be attracted to and make her want to make the first move? It's inherently flawed, borne out by your lack of success in regards to 'sacktime'.

I'm not sure there's anything more to say.

Spats said:

I'm not saying you should settle for someone you don't find attractive. For myself, I found a woman I find attractive by my method (being honest and sincere) and I never felt I compromised my integrity (how could I if I was always being myself? Who would I answer to but myself in that respect?)

I don't really know what to say. If you won't change your ways, that's fine of course since it's up to you, and if you really do think you're happy to wait until it works for you (which I hope it does) then cool, but you remind me of a captain choosing to go down with his ship. I don't think the problem is you wanting a real top-notch attractive woman (who wouldn't?) but rather what actions you consider compromise your integrity. I just don't agree that the things you say you stay away from really do that. It's all down to your values though, I guess. I just can't say I can empathise with you in any way whatsoever. Thankfully there's no great need for me to do so, happy as I am in my sacktime abundant life.

But seriously, are you so sure this integrity and the things you consider go towards making it, are right for you or the best for your love life? Can you change? Are you flexible enough for this world and for love and relationships? Maybe it'll never work.

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[Edited 11/13/06 22:51pm]