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missfee

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Marriage: is it overrated?

When I was growing up, it was always taught to me that I will find somebody who is mean't for me, I will marry this man and we will have a family. It's sought of like a dream to me that I just haven't conquered yet. I still believe that someday I will get married, (at least for the most part) but right now it seems like its so far away. Sometimes I get frustrated and feel like what if I don't meet that special someone and I end up being alone the rest of my life? Or if I do meet the man and marry him, will he turn out to be the wrong person, not the person that I thought? It's scary.

Especially with nowdays that people are most likely to live together for years rather than get married. So is this whole idea of marriage overrated? Is it old-fashioned? Am I crazy to think that marriage is an important thing to look forward to?
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Reply #1 posted 11/01/06 10:29am

SpisaRibb

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Reply #2 posted 11/01/06 10:35am

JustErin

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I wouldn't call it "overrated", more like "unrealistic" for most.

I also do not think it is necessary in regards to being in a loving (even long term) relationship, or even raising a family.
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Reply #3 posted 11/01/06 10:36am

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Me and my boyfriend are in a happy relationship for 15 years and everybody is asking us why we are not getting married. But we both don't see a need to do pout.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #4 posted 11/01/06 10:38am

luv4all7

I don't wanna say overrated cuz I don't wanna put down the happily married people, cuz I know that there are some out there. hug

But, I don't think it works for most.

My advice to anyone is, never get married.
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Reply #5 posted 11/01/06 11:26am

uPtoWnNY

missfee said:

When I was growing up, it was always taught to me that I will find somebody who is mean't for me, I will marry this man and we will have a family. It's sought of like a dream to me that I just haven't conquered yet. I still believe that someday I will get married, (at least for the most part) but right now it seems like its so far away. Sometimes I get frustrated and feel like what if I don't meet that special someone and I end up being alone the rest of my life? Or if I do meet the man and marry him, will he turn out to be the wrong person, not the person that I thought? It's scary.

Especially with nowdays that people are most likely to live together for years rather than get married. So is this whole idea of marriage overrated? Is it old-fashioned? Am I crazy to think that marriage is an important thing to look
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No you're not crazy. Marriage is way overrated, IMO. You don't need it to have a wonderful life - that's just society's B.S. against single folks. Do what works for you and makes you happy - f--- what others say. Enjoy your freedom - hang out with family & friends, travel, etc. Alone doesn't mean lonely.
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Reply #6 posted 11/01/06 11:27am

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Most people are not happily married so don't worry about it. The reason marriages still occur is because of women like you who were brought up to believe that's the way your life was supposed to go.

I recently saw footage on CNN of women lining up for a sale in wedding dresses. It was pathetic. Then you see the women stampeding through the store for the dresses. That says it all about how misguided women are about this and what they were brought up to believe.
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Reply #7 posted 11/01/06 11:46am

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Not overrated for me. After 25 years of marriage, it's a partnership. With children, accumulated assets, property..etc. I have more legal rights than if I weren't married. Isn't there someone on the org who has accounting experience that could explain the nitty gritty????
This is assuming you find the right person for you.
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Reply #8 posted 11/01/06 1:32pm

brownsugar

not overrated just something that i believe people don't take the time to think about thoroughly before jumping into. It's a very serious matter.
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Reply #9 posted 11/01/06 1:35pm

fathermcmeekle

I don't think so, but The Wife disagrees.

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Reply #10 posted 11/01/06 1:35pm

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Love isn't over-rated, but marriage is. Unless maybe you want kids.
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Reply #11 posted 11/01/06 1:36pm

applekisses

I'm single too and I wonder all of the things you've just stated. Sure, I'd enjoy a life partner...but, marriage? I think I may be too old.
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Reply #12 posted 11/01/06 1:37pm

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xplnyrslf said:

Not overrated for me. After 25 years of marriage, it's a partnership. With children, accumulated assets, property..etc. I have more legal rights than if I weren't married. Isn't there someone on the org who has accounting experience that could explain the nitty gritty????
This is assuming you find the right person for you.


Don't common-law couples have the same rights?
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Reply #13 posted 11/01/06 1:39pm

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JustErin said:

xplnyrslf said:

Not overrated for me. After 25 years of marriage, it's a partnership. With children, accumulated assets, property..etc. I have more legal rights than if I weren't married. Isn't there someone on the org who has accounting experience that could explain the nitty gritty????
This is assuming you find the right person for you.


Don't common-law couples have the same rights?


It depends from state to state in the US. In Minnesota there's no such thing as 'common-law' so, no, if you're not married there are no rights.
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Reply #14 posted 11/01/06 1:41pm

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i always thought it sad the girls who thought that thier whole goal in life was to snag a man by 18 and have children by 19. The END
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Reply #15 posted 11/01/06 1:45pm

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CarrieMpls said:

JustErin said:



Don't common-law couples have the same rights?


It depends from state to state in the US. In Minnesota there's no such thing as 'common-law' so, no, if you're not married there are no rights.


Well, that sucks.

It's certainly not that way in Canada. Common-law marriage applies to everyone (regardless of the gender of the couples) that have been in a live together relationship for over a year (I think it might be 3 in some provinces) and they have the same rights that married couples have.
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Reply #16 posted 11/01/06 1:46pm

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Depends on who you are and what you're looking for in a relationship.
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Reply #17 posted 11/01/06 1:52pm

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luv4all7 said:

My advice to anyone is, never get married.




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Reply #18 posted 11/01/06 1:53pm

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In my opinion yes it is overrated and single for life baby!!! Fuck all that marriage bullshit it is soooo not for me. However, for those that it is for congrats and good luck.
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Reply #19 posted 11/01/06 1:54pm

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gemini13 said:

Depends on who you are and what you're looking for in a relationship.


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Reply #20 posted 11/01/06 2:15pm

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SpisaRibb said:

gemini13 said:

Depends on who you are and what you're looking for in a relationship.


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My mother always told me to marry for money.

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Reply #21 posted 11/01/06 2:27pm

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CarrieMpls said:

SpisaRibb said:



$ $
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My mother always told me to marry for money.

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Reply #22 posted 11/01/06 2:43pm

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I know some young women my age who meet a guy one day, and in a month are in love and by the time 6 months rolls around are engaged to get married. I'm like omfg do you even know this person? It's like they are jumping in to get married just to see what its like, then once they are in, they are calling me telling me to "never get married, stay single as long as you can, wish i had". I guess thats what happens when you settle.

and women look at me like i'm crazy when i say "hell no i won't settle, i refuse to just settle for just some ole' guy just to have someone". I guess this is why i don't have many female friends...hmmm
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Reply #23 posted 11/01/06 2:46pm

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Most people are not happily married so don't worry about it. The reason marriages still occur is because of women like you who were brought up to believe that's the way your life was supposed to go.

I recently saw footage on CNN of women lining up for a sale in wedding dresses. It was pathetic. Then you see the women stampeding through the store for the dresses. That says it all about how misguided women are about this and what they were brought up to believe.


Amen.

I will never get married. Period. Our society's glorification of marriage has turned me into a total misanthrope. I hate my fellow men because after decades of fucking women and loving it, suddenly they hit 40 and they do opt for one of these cliched options: 1) Begin to feel social pressure from their peers about getting married, just as women do in their 30s. 2) They have a life-crisis and suddenly scream 'FUCK! I need to have a child so I can leave something behind."
3) They freak out about "not having someone there to take care of me when I'm older" (YES, MANY MEN STILL SAY THIS SHIT). 4) Some mixed-up combo of the above three.

Women? Jesus Christ...don't get me started. I turn into a raging misogynist when I see these 'I can't wait to get married' women at the bridal fairs. I just want to scream at them, "I hope your first child is born with a club foot."

Disclaimer: I mean some of this to be tongue-in-cheek (like the last comment). So please, no "I can't believe what an asshole you are" rebuttals. 'K? 'K.
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Reply #24 posted 11/01/06 2:47pm

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missfee said:

I know some young women my age who meet a guy one day, and in a month are in love and by the time 6 months rolls around are engaged to get married. I'm like omfg do you even know this person? It's like they are jumping in to get married just to see what its like, then once they are in, they are calling me telling me to "never get married, stay single as long as you can, wish i had". I guess thats what happens when you settle.

and women look at me like i'm crazy when i say "hell no i won't settle, i refuse to just settle for just some ole' guy just to have someone". I guess this is why i don't have many female friends...hmmm



thats what they say to me.
and they also say they really don't want thier kids no matter the front they put on about loving them soooo much.
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missfee said:

I know some young women my age who meet a guy one day, and in a month are in love and by the time 6 months rolls around are engaged to get married. I'm like omfg do you even know this person? It's like they are jumping in to get married just to see what its like, then once they are in, they are calling me telling me to "never get married, stay single as long as you can, wish i had". I guess thats what happens when you settle.

and women look at me like i'm crazy when i say "hell no i won't settle, i refuse to just settle for just some ole' guy just to have someone". I guess this is why i don't have many female friends...hmmm


Frankly, I don't know any women like that. But then, all my close women friends except one are single. lol
For me, it was never something I thought I wanted. Now I do. shrug I don't know if I'll get it, but I can be content without it also.
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Reply #26 posted 11/01/06 2:49pm

luv4all7

JustErin said:

CarrieMpls said:



It depends from state to state in the US. In Minnesota there's no such thing as 'common-law' so, no, if you're not married there are no rights.


Well, that sucks.

It's certainly not that way in Canada. Common-law marriage applies to everyone (regardless of the gender of the couples) that have been in a live together relationship for over a year (I think it might be 3 in some provinces) and they have the same rights that married couples have.



Man.

Canada's like a whole 'nother country. eek
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Reply #27 posted 11/01/06 2:54pm

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SnakePeel said:

Spats said:

Most people are not happily married so don't worry about it. The reason marriages still occur is because of women like you who were brought up to believe that's the way your life was supposed to go.

I recently saw footage on CNN of women lining up for a sale in wedding dresses. It was pathetic. Then you see the women stampeding through the store for the dresses. That says it all about how misguided women are about this and what they were brought up to believe.


Amen.

I will never get married. Period. Our society's glorification of marriage has turned me into a total misanthrope. I hate my fellow men because after decades of fucking women and loving it, suddenly they hit 40 and they do opt for one of these cliched options: 1) Begin to feel social pressure from their peers about getting married, just as women do in their 30s. 2) They have a life-crisis and suddenly scream 'FUCK! I need to have a child so I can leave something behind."
3) They freak out about "not having someone there to take care of me when I'm older" (YES, MANY MEN STILL SAY THIS SHIT). 4) Some mixed-up combo of the above three.

Women? Jesus Christ...don't get me started. I turn into a raging misogynist when I see these 'I can't wait to get married' women at the bridal fairs. I just want to scream at them, "I hope your first child is born with a club foot."

Disclaimer: I mean some of this to be tongue-in-cheek (like the last comment). So please, no "I can't believe what an asshole you are" rebuttals. 'K? 'K.

hmm this is interesting what you say about men. but its true, women are brought up to "make sure you keep yourself looking good so that you can marry well". it's almost like its forced upon you. it's expected of you to get married at least once, but what they don't tell you is how insecure you get with this type of setting in your head. a lot relationships are ruined by a woman who is hell bent on getting married, it drives the guy nuts. my male friends have told me. I can even say for myself i've felt the pressure from family members, constantly asking me, "so, have you been dating lately?" If i am then someone tells me, "okay someone with potential i hope". and if i'm not with anyone then its the "well what's wrong with you? are you driving the guys away with your attitude?" It's KRAZY the pressure women have with the "you must get married" upbringing.

I have to say that I just realized that I need to have fun. And damn it if i find a guy who likes having fun with me, then thats that, and if something else comes from it, then whatever happens, happens. With this type of thinking, i've built my esteem back up (for the most part), and I don't let anyone tell me or ask me "so is this someone you can see yourself with in the future?". Hell if i know, i just know that life is too short and being happy and having fun is what makes life worth while.
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Reply #28 posted 11/01/06 2:57pm

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missfee said:

SnakePeel said:



Amen.

I will never get married. Period. Our society's glorification of marriage has turned me into a total misanthrope. I hate my fellow men because after decades of fucking women and loving it, suddenly they hit 40 and they do opt for one of these cliched options: 1) Begin to feel social pressure from their peers about getting married, just as women do in their 30s. 2) They have a life-crisis and suddenly scream 'FUCK! I need to have a child so I can leave something behind."
3) They freak out about "not having someone there to take care of me when I'm older" (YES, MANY MEN STILL SAY THIS SHIT). 4) Some mixed-up combo of the above three.

Women? Jesus Christ...don't get me started. I turn into a raging misogynist when I see these 'I can't wait to get married' women at the bridal fairs. I just want to scream at them, "I hope your first child is born with a club foot."

Disclaimer: I mean some of this to be tongue-in-cheek (like the last comment). So please, no "I can't believe what an asshole you are" rebuttals. 'K? 'K.

hmm this is interesting what you say about men. but its true, women are brought up to "make sure you keep yourself looking good so that you can marry well". it's almost like its forced upon you. it's expected of you to get married at least once, but what they don't tell you is how insecure you get with this type of setting in your head. a lot relationships are ruined by a woman who is hell bent on getting married, it drives the guy nuts. my male friends have told me. I can even say for myself i've felt the pressure from family members, constantly asking me, "so, have you been dating lately?" If i am then someone tells me, "okay someone with potential i hope". and if i'm not with anyone then its the "well what's wrong with you? are you driving the guys away with your attitude?" It's KRAZY the pressure women have with the "you must get married" upbringing.

I have to say that I just realized that I need to have fun. And damn it if i find a guy who likes having fun with me, then thats that, and if something else comes from it, then whatever happens, happens. With this type of thinking, i've built my esteem back up (for the most part), and I don't let anyone tell me or ask me "so is this someone you can see yourself with in the future?". Hell if i know, i just know that like is too short and being happy and having fun is what makes life worth while.
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hug That's awesome, hon. smile
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Reply #29 posted 11/01/06 3:00pm

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TMPletz said:

luv4all7 said:

My advice to anyone is, never get married.




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falloff OMG, I thought of Clarence Williams too when I read luv4all7's post.

Clarence: "You have a girlfriend?"
Prince: "Yeah, I have a girlfriend."
Clarence: "Are you going to get married?"
Prince (shrugging and looking kinda sheepish): "I dunno."
Clarence: "Don't ever get married!"

You can tell I've watched Purple Rain more than just a few times. lol lol
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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