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Thread started 10/11/06 6:17am

jerseykrs

One of my many issues

I've recently figured out that I have managed through life by always assuming people are lying. I got into an argument with a friend of mine because he said it was paranoia, but my argument was it was a "defense" mechanism I guess. One that was formed at an early age at that.

So here's your chance to play armchair shrink... what do you think, is it possible that it could be an actual disorder? I don't think so, but I don't know jack half the time. sigh
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Reply #1 posted 10/11/06 6:25am

luv4all7

Paranoia is a disorder

And symptoms of paranoia are being suspicious that people have hidden motives behind being nice to you, thinking people are lying to you, not letting others in, its hard to trust others or confide in them, doubting people you do confide in.....

Does that sound like you?
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Reply #2 posted 10/11/06 6:26am

abierman

the good thing about alcohol is that at one point you tend to forget caring..... wink
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Reply #3 posted 10/11/06 6:27am

luv4all7

They're all watching you Jersey.

EVERYONE is looking at you!!!!!
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Reply #4 posted 10/11/06 6:29am

mrdespues

1 in 5 people have mental illness.

Yes, they do.

About 1 in 5 people are blonde, too.

So it's not unusual, it's just a typical stigma that certain kinds of people assume it is not "normal".

It's a physical illness... in the same way that if you have diabetes, you lack insulin, if you have a mental illness, you lack the natural happy drugs the brain produces like serotonin, dopamine and adrenaline.

...if this is a recurring theme with you, by all means, don't be ashamed to look into it. It's just a very stupid old attitude many people have about it which is the reason so many go undiagnosed out of fear of ridicule, etc... and particularly with blokes/men/guys it is harder to admit because it is often seen as a "weakness".... but ultimately your happiness and peace of mind should be of most importance.

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Reply #5 posted 10/11/06 6:31am

luv4all7

1 in 5 people have a mental illness?

GAY!

I HAte the way every time someone has some kind of little quirck doctors JUMP to label and medicate it. rolleyes

1 in 5 people.

Okayyyyy
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Reply #6 posted 10/11/06 6:31am

jerseykrs

The more I think about it, the more it fits me to a T. But, like, I've been like this forever, it doesn't even seem weird to me anymore, so is it still a disorder?? Or just part of my character? That's the point I try to make.
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Reply #7 posted 10/11/06 6:32am

JustErin

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jerseykrs said:

The more I think about it, the more it fits me to a T. But, like, I've been like this forever, it doesn't even seem weird to me anymore, so is it still a disorder?? Or just part of my character? That's the point I try to make.


You really miss me, don't you?
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Reply #8 posted 10/11/06 6:32am

mrdespues

luv4all7 said:

1 in 5 people have a mental illness?

GAY!

I HAte the way every time someone has some kind of little quirck doctors JUMP to label and medicate it. rolleyes

1 in 5 people.

Okayyyyy


Not surprised at all that you had to jump in and say something like that.

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It is absolutely true. It is just that many are undiagnosed.
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Reply #9 posted 10/11/06 6:33am

CarrieMpls

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jerseykrs said:

The more I think about it, the more it fits me to a T. But, like, I've been like this forever, it doesn't even seem weird to me anymore, so is it still a disorder?? Or just part of my character? That's the point I try to make.

I know what you mean. Being depressed and not my whole weird dysphoria of not really knowing what I look like (what I see in the mirror is not accurate) are pretty much a part of who I am. I've been that way so long I don't know how to be any different. And I don't really want to try to be any different. lol I'm content and used to the way things are. Maybe that's complacency. shrug But in any case I totally get what you mean.
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Reply #10 posted 10/11/06 6:33am

jerseykrs

JustErin said:

jerseykrs said:

The more I think about it, the more it fits me to a T. But, like, I've been like this forever, it doesn't even seem weird to me anymore, so is it still a disorder?? Or just part of my character? That's the point I try to make.


You really miss me, don't you?



rolleyes
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Reply #11 posted 10/11/06 6:34am

luv4all7

mrdespues said:

luv4all7 said:

1 in 5 people have a mental illness?

GAY!

I HAte the way every time someone has some kind of little quirck doctors JUMP to label and medicate it. rolleyes

1 in 5 people.

Okayyyyy


Not surprised at all that you had to jump in and say something like that.

neutral

It is absolutely true. It is just that many are undiagnosed.


It's absolutely true, says who?
The doctor thats pushing pills on everyone so he can make his spiff quota and win the free trip for 4 to St. Lucia?
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Reply #12 posted 10/11/06 6:34am

jerseykrs

CarrieMpls said:

jerseykrs said:

The more I think about it, the more it fits me to a T. But, like, I've been like this forever, it doesn't even seem weird to me anymore, so is it still a disorder?? Or just part of my character? That's the point I try to make.

I know what you mean. Being depressed and not my whole weird dysphoria of not really knowing what I look like (what I see in the mirror is not accurate) are pretty much a part of who I am. I've been that way so long I don't know how to be any different. And I don't really want to try to be any different. lol I'm content and used to the way things are. Maybe that's complacency. shrug But in any case I totally get what you mean.


there we go, that's what I needed to hear. hug
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Reply #13 posted 10/11/06 6:34am

abierman

JustErin said:

jerseykrs said:

The more I think about it, the more it fits me to a T. But, like, I've been like this forever, it doesn't even seem weird to me anymore, so is it still a disorder?? Or just part of my character? That's the point I try to make.


You really miss me, don't you?



ouch.....giggle
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Reply #14 posted 10/11/06 6:34am

JustErin

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jerseykrs said:

JustErin said:



You really miss me, don't you?



rolleyes


Is that a "yes"?
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Reply #15 posted 10/11/06 6:35am

jerseykrs

JustErin said:

jerseykrs said:




rolleyes


Is that a "yes"?



a profound one

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Reply #16 posted 10/11/06 6:37am

mrdespues

luv4all7 said:

mrdespues said:



Not surprised at all that you had to jump in and say something like that.

neutral

It is absolutely true. It is just that many are undiagnosed.


It's absolutely true, says who?
The doctor thats pushing pills on everyone so he can make his spiff quota and win the free trip for 4 to St. Lucia?


Oh go jump in a lake with Tom Cruise, why dont'cha?

rolleyes

Not everyone is out to make a buck off people and not everyone is stupid enough to simply do what doctors tell them, at the same time.

The fact remains that the modern world has a lot to do with that statistic I posted. Check it out anywhere you like. I just heard it again on a tv show aobout mental illness today.

Stop making yourself look silly.

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Reply #17 posted 10/11/06 6:38am

Natisse

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Reply #18 posted 10/11/06 6:41am

luv4all7

mrdespues said:

luv4all7 said:



It's absolutely true, says who?
The doctor thats pushing pills on everyone so he can make his spiff quota and win the free trip for 4 to St. Lucia?


Oh go jump in a lake with Tom Cruise, why dont'cha?

He's ugly.
rolleyes

Not everyone is out to make a buck off people and not everyone is stupid enough to simply do what doctors tell them, at the same.
Nope. Just 1 in 5.

The fact remains that the modern world has a lot to do with that statistic I posted. Check it out anywhere you like. I just heard it again on a tv show aobout mental illness today.
The fact remains that there ARE people with mental illnesses in the modern world because of genetics. Anything else is just a product of the modern world and the modern world is a bunch of pussy's looking to label their chip on their shoulder as a mental illness.

Stop making yourself look silly.

I don't think I look silly at all. I just don't agree with you.
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Reply #19 posted 10/11/06 6:41am

IrresistibleB1
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mrdespues said:

luv4all7 said:

1 in 5 people have a mental illness?

GAY!

I HAte the way every time someone has some kind of little quirck doctors JUMP to label and medicate it. rolleyes

1 in 5 people.

Okayyyyy


Not surprised at all that you had to jump in and say something like that.

neutral

It is absolutely true. It is just that many are undiagnosed.


i think that's a reasonable estimate. nod
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Reply #20 posted 10/11/06 6:43am

Natisse

IrresistibleB1tch said:

mrdespues said:



Not surprised at all that you had to jump in and say something like that.

neutral

It is absolutely true. It is just that many are undiagnosed.


i think that's a reasonable estimate. nod


nod
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Reply #21 posted 10/11/06 6:46am

JustErin

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I definitely agree that doctors are too quick to diagnose depression. "Oh, you're stressed at work? Depressed!", "Oh, you're sad your bf broke up with you? Depressed!".

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, not the blues or stress. I certainly believe that 1 - 5 people go thru the blues, but not clinical depression.

What test can be performed to determine if someone is really depressed? Is there a brain scan or something like that? And do doctors actually have their patients tested and then make the diagnosis?
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Reply #22 posted 10/11/06 6:46am

mrdespues

luv4all7 said:

mrdespues said:



Oh go jump in a lake with Tom Cruise, why dont'cha?

He's ugly.
rolleyes

Not everyone is out to make a buck off people and not everyone is stupid enough to simply do what doctors tell them, at the same.
Nope. Just 1 in 5.

The fact remains that the modern world has a lot to do with that statistic I posted. Check it out anywhere you like. I just heard it again on a tv show aobout mental illness today.
The fact remains that there ARE people with mental illnesses in the modern world because of genetics. Anything else is just a product of the modern world and the modern world is a bunch of pussy's looking to label their chip on their shoulder as a mental illness.

Stop making yourself look silly.

I don't think I look silly at all. I just don't agree with you.


Idiotic.
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Reply #23 posted 10/11/06 6:47am

CortestheKille
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Well, at least you've made it into yourself. I get depressed and still know it's not me under there being that way. At the very least, "me" seems to be indifferent. Not sad or pissed off all the time. That just happens in the winter. And Lexapro comes to play.

In your case, I doubt you have a "disorder." But it can't hurt if sometime you have a little extra pocket change if you go see a therapist or something else. you don't have to get all medicated or nothin', just talk it out.
This one's for you.
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Reply #24 posted 10/11/06 6:48am

jerseykrs

CortestheKiller said:

Well, at least you've made it into yourself. I get depressed and still know it's not me under there being that way. At the very least, "me" seems to be indifferent. Not sad or pissed off all the time. That just happens in the winter. And Lexapro comes to play.

In your case, I doubt you have a "disorder." But it can't hurt if sometime you have a little extra pocket change if you go see a therapist or something else. you don't have to get all medicated or nothin', just talk it out.



your latest comment provided MUCH therapy. falloff hug
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Reply #25 posted 10/11/06 6:50am

mrdespues

JustErin said:

I definitely agree that doctors are too quick to diagnose depression. "Oh, you're stressed at work? Depressed!", "Oh, you're sad your bf broke up with you? Depressed!".

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, not the blues or stress. I certainly believe that 1 - 5 people go thru the blues, but not clinical depression.

What test can be performed to determine if someone is really depressed? Is there a brain scan or something like that? And do doctors actually have their patients tested and then make the diagnosis?


Very general.

1 in 5 with mental illness is not just limited to 'depression'.

Think: schizophrenia, bi-polar... any kind of anxiety... OCD.... the list goes on...

... and no, they are not quick to diagnose at all. Maybe in North America, perhaps, the land of drugs and the quick-fix.

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Reply #26 posted 10/11/06 6:50am

CortestheKille
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jerseykrs said:

CortestheKiller said:

Well, at least you've made it into yourself. I get depressed and still know it's not me under there being that way. At the very least, "me" seems to be indifferent. Not sad or pissed off all the time. That just happens in the winter. And Lexapro comes to play.

In your case, I doubt you have a "disorder." But it can't hurt if sometime you have a little extra pocket change if you go see a therapist or something else. you don't have to get all medicated or nothin', just talk it out.



your latest comment provided MUCH therapy. falloff hug


Did you like that, doll? biggrin It made me think so much of you, and our late night ex-talks.
This one's for you.
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Reply #27 posted 10/11/06 6:53am

JustErin

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mrdespues said:

JustErin said:

I definitely agree that doctors are too quick to diagnose depression. "Oh, you're stressed at work? Depressed!", "Oh, you're sad your bf broke up with you? Depressed!".

Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, not the blues or stress. I certainly believe that 1 - 5 people go thru the blues, but not clinical depression.

What test can be performed to determine if someone is really depressed? Is there a brain scan or something like that? And do doctors actually have their patients tested and then make the diagnosis?


Very general.

1 in 5 with mental illness is not just limited to 'depression'.

Think: schizophrenia, bi-polar... any kind of anxiety... OCD.... the list goes on...

... and no, they are not quick to diagnose at all. Maybe in North America, perhaps, the land of drugs and the quick-fix.

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I'm just curious as to what tests are given to determine clinical depression. Do you know of any?
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Reply #28 posted 10/11/06 6:53am

jerseykrs

CortestheKiller said:

jerseykrs said:




your latest comment provided MUCH therapy. falloff hug


Did you like that, doll? biggrin It made me think so much of you, and our late night ex-talks.



HAHAHAH, it CRACKED me up.
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Reply #29 posted 10/11/06 6:54am

luv4all7

mrdespues said:

luv4all7 said:



Idiotic.


So lemme guess your disorder.....
Tourette's?
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