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Reply #60 posted 10/13/06 2:58pm

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

I was reading about this another site, and people were commenting that a Latina should play the role of Mariane, because she is half Afro-Cuban (and half Dutch). They felt that her Cuban roots should have opened up a spot for a Latina. To be honest, I think they should have picked whoever could resemble Mariane (which may or may not be Angelina, but it's too late now), not just someone who has the same heritage. I also read that Mariane is Buddhist, so she may have been pleased with Angelina's interest in Buddhism.

Shoot, if someone were to play me in a movie, they'd probably have to pick someone with a different ethnic background from mine. I wouldn't care as long as they looked like me.


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Reply #61 posted 10/13/06 5:35pm

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This is a crock of shit once again. Angelina is good and should play this role for that reason only. I can't think of a black actress that picks up dialects as well as Angelina. If she could play my dark ass in a movie, I would want her too. She is awesome.
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Reply #62 posted 10/13/06 10:43pm

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falloff @ this thread...

expecially since Halle is lined up to play a white chick in her next film:


Storm's stumpin' for votes! Halle Berry will tackle Class Act, a true story about a Reno, Nev., sixth-grade teacher who lets her students convince her to run for Congress in 2000, but only if they'll help her run her campaign. ''She's started [to run] as a lesson,'' says producer Elaine Goldsmith-Thomas (Mona Lisa Smile), ''and ended up getting caught up in it.'' The casting of Berry is notable because the teacher she's playing, Tierney Cahill, is white in real life. ''At first it was, 'Too bad it can't be Halle,''' explains Goldsmith-Thomas, who first learned of Class Act while making the upcoming Perfect Stranger with Berry. ''And then it was, 'Why can't it be Halle?' We called Tierney, who in reality is married to a black man and has biracial children, and we said Halle Berry is interested in playing you. She had one word for it: 'Fantastic.' We all say let's be color blind, but until we are, you know, we aren't. The color of her skin was irrelevant, so who was I to make it relevant?'' Doug Atchison (Akeelah and the Bee) is attached to write and direct.

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Reply #63 posted 10/13/06 11:14pm

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I'll be honest: When I first heard about this, as much as I like Angelina, I was a bit pissed... and more than a bit confused. Angelina -- part-Iroquois or no rolleyes -- is phenotypically white as the driven snow.

But then I thought broader of the situation...

She and Brad certainly could have found any number of talented biracial actresses to play the part -- and maybe it would have been a show of sensitivity more consistent of them. But ultimately it's the story here that matters most -- and Mariane Pearl's ancestry had nothing to do with it.

Anyway, Halle Berry, for example, ain't Afro-Cuban/Dutch. So should the global Afro-Cuban/Dutch contingient have been pissed if the role went to her? And if an Afro-Cuban/Dutch actress had gotten the part, would it be proper only if her real-life husband were a dark-haired Jew... and a reporter... named Dan? lol I mean, where does the ownership of identity end?

Unfortunately, any beef with this decision does have some creedence given Hollywood's history of taking rather insulting liberties where talent and stories of people of color are regarded. But at the end of the day, no one is a better authority on the integrity of Mrs. Pearl's depiction than Mrs. Pearl -- and if she's cool with this, I can cut Angie some slack here.

As an aside, I've seen Angelina in the makeup, and she looks suprisingly like Mariane Pearl! And I trust that Angelina is a strong enough actress to pull this off. She's been in some dogs, but she definitely deserved that Oscar nod.
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Reply #64 posted 10/13/06 11:16pm

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Lammastide said:

I'll be honest: When I first heard about this, as much as I like Angelina, I was a bit pissed... and more than a bit confused. Angelina -- part-Iroquois or no rolleyes -- is phenotypically white as the driven snow.

But then I thought broader of the situation...

She and Brad certainly could have found any number of talented biracial actresses to play the part -- and maybe it would have been a show of sensitivity more consistent of them. But ultimately it's the story here that matters most -- and Mariane Pearl's ancestry had nothing to do with it.

Anyway, Halle Berry, for example, ain't Afro-Cuban/Dutch. So should the global Afro-Cuban/Dutch contingient have been pissed if the role went to her? And if an Afro-Cuban/Dutch actress had gotten the part, would it be proper only if her real-life husband were a dark-haired Jew... and a reporter... named Dan? lol I mean, where does the ownership of identity end?

Unfortunately, any beef with this decision does have some creedence given Hollywood's history of taking rather insulting liberties where talent and stories of people of color are regarded. But at the end of the day, no one is a better authority on the integrity of Mrs. Pearl's depiction than Mrs. Pearl -- and if she's cool with this, I can cut Angie some slack here.

As an aside, I've seen Angelina in the makeup, and she looks suprisingly like Mariane Pearl! And I trust that Angelina is a strong enough actress to pull this off. She's been in some dogs, but she definitely deserved that Oscar nod.
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Reply #65 posted 10/13/06 11:20pm

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sosgemini said:

Lammastide said:

I'll be honest: When I first heard about this, as much as I like Angelina, I was a bit pissed... and more than a bit confused. Angelina -- part-Iroquois or no rolleyes -- is phenotypically white as the driven snow.

But then I thought broader of the situation...

She and Brad certainly could have found any number of talented biracial actresses to play the part -- and maybe it would have been a show of sensitivity more consistent of them. But ultimately it's the story here that matters most -- and Mariane Pearl's ancestry had nothing to do with it.

Anyway, Halle Berry, for example, ain't Afro-Cuban/Dutch. So should the global Afro-Cuban/Dutch contingient have been pissed if the role went to her? And if an Afro-Cuban/Dutch actress had gotten the part, would it be proper only if her real-life husband were a dark-haired Jew... and a reporter... named Dan? lol I mean, where does the ownership of identity end?

Unfortunately, any beef with this decision does have some creedence given Hollywood's history of taking rather insulting liberties where talent and stories of people of color are regarded. But at the end of the day, no one is a better authority on the integrity of Mrs. Pearl's depiction than Mrs. Pearl -- and if she's cool with this, I can cut Angie some slack here.

As an aside, I've seen Angelina in the makeup, and she looks suprisingly like Mariane Pearl! And I trust that Angelina is a strong enough actress to pull this off. She's been in some dogs, but she definitely deserved that Oscar nod.
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read my thread above and comment...please evil

Well, that's different, obviously...

NO biracial woman should be allowed to play a white woman. no no no!
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Reply #66 posted 10/14/06 1:46am

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I am, in retrospect, VERY angry at the fact that Marlon Wayans played a little man in his movie Little Man.

Why did they not cast a real little man?

I mean, common people. I think the message of the movie transcends all the talk on this thread. Jolie is going to play a part because she feels passionate about it. It is as easy as that.

I think black campaign groups are first of all targeting a questionable cause in this case and how come I suspect a bit of spotlight searching on their behalf. So many instances inthe past they let slip, but once it is the most famous woman in the world, married to the most famous man in the world they start jammering.

To me this entire case feels like they are overreacting. I am not saying I am not into their objectives, but I think this is the wrong fight to pick.
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Reply #67 posted 10/14/06 2:08am

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Angelina Jolie is currently shooting a movie in India where she plays a biracial woman....this is beginning to cause a stir.

http://www.news.com.au/da...26,00.html


ANGELINA Jolie has sparked a race row by playing a mixed-race woman in her latest film.

The Hollywood beauty has been cast as the widow of murdered US journalist Daniel Pearl in A Mighty Heart - which is being produced by Angelina's partner Brad Pitt.

The casting decision has angered black campaign groups who are furious a white woman has been chosen for the role.

One outraged person wrote on website blacklooks.org: "I had assumed the days when white actors took on roles of black people had long passed."

Another wrote: "You can't tell me Halle Berry, Judy Reyes or other women of African descent wouldn't have been a better choice."

Oscar winner Angelina plays French freelance reporter Mariane Pearl, who was five months pregnant when her husband was kidnapped by Islamic extremists in Pakistan in 2002.

The Wall Street Journal reporter was later beheaded. Despite the furore surrounding the film, the real-life Mariane, 39, is pleased that Angelina will be playing her in the movie.

She said: "I'm delighted Angelina Jolie will be playing my role. I deeply admire her work."



As a black woman myself, this is an instance where I don't mind at all. Jolie has been very committed spreading awareness and understanding about war and how it affects the lives of others for YEARS. This is a very controversial moment for me where I just have to say that if the possible alternate actresses mentioned were supposed to do this project, then they should have stepped up to the plate and been involved with Mariane's and Daniel's journey from the beginning. No one gave a frick frack about Mariane Pearl's story until Jolie (who has done projects similar in theme to this before) wanted to tell it. For the Johhny-Come-Latelies who suddenly want to arrive on the scene and him and haw because they didn't get first digs when they weren't even interested in the firt place is not acceptable to me. I think this is an exception where we are dealing with a story bigger than America's psychologically cancerous obsession with race, and it desrves to be played by an artist who is deeply and genuinely devoted to the project, and the larger message it will hopefully spread to the world.
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Reply #68 posted 10/14/06 3:18am

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Angelina Jolie IS bi-racial.

And what's the difference betwixt this and Jessica Alba playing a white woman in F4? ..which I still don't understand..


Well, maybe not bi-racial...but mama Marcheline is half Iroquois Indian and white Quebecquois (sp?) (though she was born in France). In any case I agree. Another example for me was when latina Jennifer Lopez went through her blond haired phase playing Italian women in her movies. No one cared...I just want to see Angelina do the best work on this project I know she is capable of doing. I'm generally not a fan of her celebrity, but do understand and am supportive of the work she has done in the past to tell everyday stories that happen in extraordinary global circumstances in an increasingly troubled world.
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Reply #69 posted 10/14/06 5:40am

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If Angelina can pull off the role, who cares.

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Reply #70 posted 10/14/06 6:31am

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i was outraged by the innacuracies made to demonize the jews in the passion at the time and still am.

the sad part is those who the movie plays to don't even know they are inaccuracies. the people i debated about it with in p&r thought it was completely biblically sourced.


Outside of the jews, most people didn't notice the other obvious omissions and blatant inaccuracies. Then again that's the movies for you. It's like London born Daniel Day Lewis potraying an Irishmen in My Left Foot and In the Name of the Father.
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well, there's also something to be said for the audience knowing their own faith. i was amazed at poeple who claim to be be biblical scholars who were claiming the movie was 100% accurate and biblically sourced. it made my jaw drop
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Reply #71 posted 10/14/06 6:44am

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She looks black, why not. Quit hatin.
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Reply #72 posted 10/14/06 6:47am

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Reply #73 posted 10/14/06 6:55am

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i just wish that more black actresses had more roles in hollywood sad. i,however dont see anything wrong with angelina playing a biracial role. I think she can pull it off and i'm curious to see how the movie turns out. before i read the whole thread i was just gonna mention halle berry playing a white woman (sos beat me to it smile)
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Reply #74 posted 10/14/06 7:32am

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2freaky4church1 said:

She looks black, why not. Quit hatin.

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Reply #75 posted 10/14/06 12:12pm

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I don't think race will be germane to the movie at all. So, why does it matter.

People who care must think folks are only defined by their ethicity. Race is arbitrary. I'm sure Angelina will reflect the true nature of this women -- hitting all the nuances and characteristics that count -- the true things that define this woman.


Someone brought up earlier that we'd be mad if a non-black played Prince in a biopic.... that's very different. Race would be germane to Prince's story ... how he first was on the chitlin circuit ...how he got booed on that Jagger tour... his one world/no prejudice creed...then his later pro-black stance yada yada.
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Reply #76 posted 10/14/06 1:08pm

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Would you rather an untalented actress who looked exactly like Pearl got the part? disbelief
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Reply #77 posted 10/14/06 1:46pm

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If Angelina can able pulled it off, then I am all for her playing Mrs. Pearl. I love me some Angelina as an actress and her humanitarian efforts, a true Audrey Hepburn. Also Mariane Pearl was the one who chosen Angelina to play her and I believed she made the right choice. Same goes Hallie of playing a white woman, if she can do it, then more power to her.
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Reply #78 posted 10/14/06 7:02pm

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i had no idea that Daniel Pearl's wife was biracial.

i had no idea that she was French.

if someone is biracial aren't they black and white so that would be that one race could not claim her as fully a white or black person?
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Reply #79 posted 10/14/06 7:10pm

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ehuffnsd said:


if someone is biracial aren't they black and white so that would be that one race could not claim her as fully a white or black person?


That's true in just about every country EXCEPT the U.S.A.

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Reply #80 posted 10/16/06 12:34pm

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Wow. This is so werid. My friend Ariel is like obsessed with Angelina Jolie. Ariel is bi racial and she seriously thought Angelina was too! I'm like honnie both her parents are white. She was like "Really??? Oh I thought she was bi racial!"
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Reply #81 posted 10/18/06 5:00am

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Wow. This is so werid. My friend Ariel is like obsessed with Angelina Jolie. Ariel is bi racial and she seriously thought Angelina was too! I'm like honnie both her parents are white. She was like "Really??? Oh I thought she was bi racial!"

Have you been paying attention in this thread? We already established that she is.
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Reply #82 posted 10/18/06 8:43am

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OneMoreTimeP said:

Krystal666 said:

Wow. This is so werid. My friend Ariel is like obsessed with Angelina Jolie. Ariel is bi racial and she seriously thought Angelina was too! I'm like honnie both her parents are white. She was like "Really??? Oh I thought she was bi racial!"

Have you been paying attention in this thread? We already established that she is.


No I didn't read the whole thread. Is she really bi racial? Wow! I didn't know. smile
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