JustErin said:

thank you for the input. i really find this kind of thing facinating.

I would venture to say for the same reasons some women become proctologists....ax to grind....I know my wife freaks if a dude is her gyno, because she always says they don't all have...the deft touch so to speak....whereas a woman gyno is gentle for lack of a better term because she herself has to go to a gyno....

...I know that when I had to take a physical a couple years ago before I went to a new unit in Germany, I had to have the ol' finger up the wazoo test....given by a woman....along with the cup the balls and cough thing...she wasn't gentle at all....felt rather violated to tell the truth...but then again she was about the size of Shrek with these huge meat hooks for hands.....

...jeez.....I'm getting scared talking about it....

....hold me....

JasmineFire said:

The two female OBGYNs I tried were Harsh in word ...temperment and in their hands ..plain and simple

i dont view a physical exam of any type as sexual ... and i have never felt my male dr's were turned on like some random horn dog ...

i am in no way uncomfortable with women Dr's ... I just prefer my male obgyn that i have been going to since my 1st preganacy 18 yrs ago

give me a break ... "And why are women doctors being described as harsh? is it because they don't flirt with you?" ... are you SERIOUS ???

I would be insulted by a Dr male or female flirting with me period

Mach said:

fuck it. it's not worth it. i was being honest with my experience and you rolled your eyes at me. nice. real fucking nice. i am so done with this place and its fake peace love vibes.
[Edited 9/30/06 17:11pm]

JasmineFire said:

Oh goodness i apologize ...i didnt mean to seem rude/harsh

I feel like shit and have had a migrain all day .. that is NO excuse, just a fact and a reminder to myself perhaps to not answer questions when not feeling well

again ...i do apologize for seeming rude and harsh

it was not my intention

i was more joking with the "ARE YOU SERIOUS " line...

i didnt let you know with a though i suck

JasmineFire said:

i said i was sorry ... and i mean it

i in no way meant to come across they way you took it

Mach said:

whatever. maybe i just need to go to bed but i'm not having it today. to talk about my experiences with men, even in such a general way, is so incredibly hard that it almost brings me to fucking tears and that was the response i see. really now.

i need some time.

Mach said:

i didn;t see your other post until after i edited my old one. technology is great.

purplerein said:

Oh...I've read more sexist statements...and here on the org, even. I apologized to those who interpret this question as being "sexist" -- that was not the intention. I see that it's opened up a good discussion...THAT was the intention. I could have stated the question in a more sensitive way, I suppose.

applekisses said:

any qualified doctor can treat a patient regardless of the patients, and the doctors gender.

purplerein said:

Yes, CAN, but is it the best care? Really, if you don't fully experience what it's like to live in that particular type of body...do you really know what your patients are experiencing?

applekisses said:

I understand your point, but I disagree. Doctors are trained to understand what their patients are experiencing. by your logic, only kids should treat kids, and only old doctors should treat geriatric patients. only African American doctors should treat African americans.....
it was too narrow a statement is all.

purplerein said:

I thought that's what you would get at...but I disagree...all adults were kids at one time...geriatric men have the same organs as younger men...and African Americans have the same organs as all other ethnic groups.

The only logical explanation is that they enjoy delivering babies. That is a special thing and its way on the other end of say a geriatric physician or an oncologist that deals with illness and death alot more than a OB/Gyn. I am a nurse and a pregnant mother and I go to a male Dr. because I like his bedside manner. I worked with a female Dr. and I wouldnt let her deliver puppies from my dog but that was her. There are plenty great female docs out there thats just my experience.

irrisistableB said:

I've thought that too...and I've seen it (I work for a healthcare system)...many male OB/Gyn's will eventually just move to the OB part of things. But, there is SO much more to women's reproductive and overall health than just delivering babies.

applekisses said:

Its something to think about especially since OB/GYNs also have the most malpractice suits that also includes OB nurses

applekisses said:

i wonder how many gay male gynos there are in the world? that would make for an interesting first date conversation. "so....WHAT is it you do for a living again?"

applekisses said:

yes we have the same organs but some could say that there are certain risks that African Americans may have that someone else might, etc, etc.

So what if you have a female doctor that can't have children, should she deliver a baby. She can't have one. This could go on and on.


I've had both and have liked both.

Because a woman in that stirrup postion is really hot.

Illustrator said:

...cue Spats...

I thought about becoming one at one time...

But, you know what they say; when you work at McDonolads you get sick of the fries.

So, I opted to skip gynecology school.

Rhondab said:

Yes, I see what you're saying...it can be a slippery slope with the argument I'm presenting, but I still see that by not being able to be affected by ONE disease (i.e. Sickle Cell) or not being able to experience ONE function of the female body (i.e. child birth) is completely different from actually not having the very body parts (or experencing the functions of those body parts) you're treating on a daily basis.

Well for some who have daughters, i'm sure u would rather take her to a woman.

Thia can't be fucking real? Why would a man wanna be a gynecologist? I dunno maybe ,because the female anatomy is some what important or maybe like all men, their just pervs who go through med school just to look at vag.

Here's an interesting article I found:


Women's health care needs healing communication

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. - Despite advances in medicine and technology, some of women's most basic health care needs are not being met, says a Purdue University health communication expert.


"Many women suffer tremendous anxiety about their annual gynecological exams," says Marifran Mattson, an associate communication professor who studies health communication issues such as privacy and safety. "The anxiety is preventing women from receiving the best care possible, and many women who seek care regularly are not pleased with their visits. Patient education is key to alleviating anxiety associated with these vulnerable visits because it inspires women to be more confident in demanding that their individuality be respected and their input be considered."

Mattson teamed with Maria Brann, an assistant professor of communication studies at West Virginia University and a former Purdue graduate student, to survey 79 women, ages 18-71, about their annual exams, which screen for cancer and other health problems. The women were asked if they share concerns about their care with their gynecologists, and if they do, how do gynecologists react to their concerns. Unlike previous research, the surveys asked women to describe gynecological visits in their own words, rather than rating them on a scale.

The results of their study are published in the chapter "Reframing Communication During Gynecological Exams," which appears in the book "Gender in Applied Communication Contexts." The book was published in November. Their research also suggests that gynecologists reevaluate how they communicate with patients in order to improve the delivery of health care. Almost two-thirds of the women surveyed expressed some concern about visiting a gynecologist, including the gynecologist's gender. Mattson and Brann's study agrees with previous research that shows the fear associated with women's exams is often connected to being examined by a male doctor.

"Interestingly, older women did not have a preference for the gender of their gynecologist, and that can be attributed to women not growing up with a choice," Mattson says. "However, younger women prefer female doctors. But even though we think of female gynecologists as more perceptive to our needs and concerns, we need to remember they are trained in a male-dominated medical system."

In the 1800s the health care system became more male-dominated when woman-to-woman care, such as midwifery, was excluded from mainstream care. As medical science evolved, physicians, most of whom were men, were trained to treat medical conditions rather than the individual patient, Mattson says.

Other reasons keeping women from their annual exams include feelings of discomfort, embarrassment and personal intrusion, as well as the fear of finding a problem such as cancer, Brann says.

Women who schedule annual exams expressed difficulty sharing these concerns with their doctor. The majority of women reported they did not share their feelings because they "found doctors to be uncaring and patronizing."

The women who do share their concerns said some physicians laughed or told the patient to just relax. Their research also shows that women want better communication with their doctors, but they are not willing or comfortable sharing their concerns.

"The focus should be on the well-being of the patient, and the goal of any health care interaction should be on maintaining a caring relationship," Brann says. "Because there are two parties involved in the relationship, both should be responsible for creating that relationship. Physicians need to see women as people who experience real anxieties, not just illnesses. And patients need to start, or continue, being assertive when addressing such concerns with their gynecologists."

Gynecologists can improve their communication skills by making eye contact and avoid being condescending, Brann says. Patients should demand more time with their doctor to share concerns and ask questions about their health care.

"A woman's dignity must be maintained throughout the examination, especially considering the vulnerable position that women are in when they go the gynecologist," Mattson says. "A genuine relationship between a patient and physician is created and maintained through communication. Improved communications may help alleviate the anxiety women experience before, during and after exams. When a woman knows that her gynecologist cares for her, she feels comfortable expressing herself, and that empowers women to be active in seeking health care and contributing to the decision making in their care."

Here's a link:

http://news.uns.purdue.ed...ealth.html
[Edited 10/1/06 21:44pm]

I've had men & women, I really don't care either way. The only time a male doc could make me uncomfortable is if I found him attractive

applekisses said:

that is some seriously flawed logic. many doctors don't have cancer yet they treat it. when you're in med school you learn about the entire human body. do you think females should only have female practicioners in all aspects of medicine? after all, there are hormones exclusive to females and those hormones create problems which are exclusive to females.

the bottom line is a good doctor is a good doctor.
[Edited 10/1/06 22:00pm]

I've had a male and a female one. I'm comfortable with the guy, but I wasn't with the woman. But that was her in general, she was an unpleasant person and didn't seem to care too much about her patients.

A good doctor is a good doctor though.



What I want to know is why someone would want to be a proctologist. Yeah, everyone has a behind, but at what point does a person realize their life goal is to be an ass quack?

sallysassalot said:

plus, if this logic is airtight, what happens when you need to take your pet to the doctor? not that i wouldn't ADORE taking my cat to the office of a kitty dressed up as a doctor. how cute would that be?

Anx said: