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Thread started 09/22/06 12:33am

Mazurack

Advice on 4th Grade Fighting

My son is the tall, lanky type. His friends are all tall and husky. A boy at his school decides, this week, that he is going to punch my son in the back. Two days ago he went to punch him, missed, and hit the kid next to my son square in the nose. This boy and my son are semi-friends... friends by association, I guess. This boy is friendly to him at times, and other times he is like this. He has said to another friend of my son's that he wasn't too sure about my son because he is too well liked in school.

Today he received a blow to the back again, not a blow that brought tears but a good enough one that it wasn't a tap. A lot of his friends do shove and punch one another as a game and do tend to tease my son because he doesn't participate. Not that he doesn't pack a solid punch, he does, he just doesn't believe in hitting. Probably due to being rasied by a girl! lol

My advice, today, was for him to warn the kid that he'll punch him back if he hits him again. Of course, only after the kid punches him first. I told him to make it a good one, don't put all of his force behind it though, and not to aim for the face.

I think he is an easy target for this kid because he is confident that my son won't do anything about it but ignore it and carry on with whatever else is going on.

For the past two nights I've been a punching bag and I've got the bruises to show it.

I don't believe in fighting but I also think there comes a time when enough is enough.

Was this good advice or do you have something better I can work with before tomorrow?
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Reply #1 posted 09/22/06 12:36am

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Tell him to get the word out that this other kid is a coward who hits people in the back.

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Reply #2 posted 09/22/06 12:37am

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Well Loo....

I'd say it's important to tell your son it's okay to fight back... But never to start stuff. Which is what you did. I'd tell him to aim for the face though. One good punch to the eye/mouth whatever, and the kid'll probably learn.

Good luck to the lad... Man, all those years leading up to high school graduation are full of things that suck.
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Reply #3 posted 09/22/06 12:39am

Mazurack

2the9s said:

Tell him to get the word out that this other kid is a coward who hits people in the back.

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That is very true... the being a coward shooting from behind! Not sure getting the word out would help the situation any!

Be thankful you had a darling daughter! All you have to worry about is girly drama of hating each other one day and loving each other to pieces the next, oh, and having the right outfit!
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Reply #4 posted 09/22/06 12:41am

Mazurack

CortestheKiller said:

Well Loo....

I'd say it's important to tell your son it's okay to fight back... But never to start stuff. Which is what you did. I'd tell him to aim for the face though. One good punch to the eye/mouth whatever, and the kid'll probably learn.

Good luck to the lad... Man, all those years leading up to high school graduation are full of things that suck.


*drops to the floor*

No punches to the eye or the mouth, though, yeah, he'd learn! I don't want him to knock an eye off or anything! wink

Yeah, you just wait until you go through this! You had better be waiting... and waiting... and waiting... !
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Reply #5 posted 09/22/06 12:43am

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It's always good advice to tell your son to defend himself, to punch back if struck first. However, this got my son suspended for a day last year. Same thing, a certain kid was picking on my son and it came to blows (I think my son got the best of him) far from the school bldg, but still on school property. I called the school to complain about the kid, they got called into the office, and both were suspended. They actually told my son that he shouldn't have punched back, that he should have run back to the school to report the incident instead! eek Yeah, they live in the real world!

The good thing is that both boys realized they made a mistake, and vowed never to repeat the scene.

You may have to get the school involved and hopefully the boys will see the severity of the situation and cool it.
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Reply #6 posted 09/22/06 12:45am

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Mazurack said:

CortestheKiller said:

Well Loo....

I'd say it's important to tell your son it's okay to fight back... But never to start stuff. Which is what you did. I'd tell him to aim for the face though. One good punch to the eye/mouth whatever, and the kid'll probably learn.

Good luck to the lad... Man, all those years leading up to high school graduation are full of things that suck.


*drops to the floor*

No punches to the eye or the mouth, though, yeah, he'd learn! I don't want him to knock an eye off or anything! wink

Yeah, you just wait until you go through this! You had better be waiting... and waiting... and waiting... !


Tell your son to keep his chin down, too. smile That'll be important... at least later in life. biggrin Can't get punched in the throat that way!

Our little Justin or Julia will smack the shit out of some bitch, that's for sure! He'll have to learn that from his dad, though.
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Reply #7 posted 09/22/06 12:50am

Mazurack

Revolution said:

It's always good advice to tell your son to defend himself, to punch back if struck first. However, this got my son suspended for a day last year. Same thing, a certain kid was picking on my son and it came to blows (I think my son got the best of him) far from the school bldg, but still on school property. I called the school to complain about the kid, they got called into the office, and both were suspended. They actually told my son that he shouldn't have punched back, that he should have run back to the school to report the incident instead! eek Yeah, they live in the real world!

The good thing is that both boys realized they made a mistake, and vowed never to repeat the scene.

You may have to get the school involved and hopefully the boys will see the severity of the situation and cool it.


My mom suggested him telling on the kid. Like that would make matters better!

I'm prepared for suspension and I'm okay with it. I think that if he surprises the kid with one good blow the kid may think twice about repeating the sneak attacks.

I hope I have as good of an outcome as your son!
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Reply #8 posted 09/22/06 12:50am

Mazurack

CortestheKiller said:

Mazurack said:



*drops to the floor*

No punches to the eye or the mouth, though, yeah, he'd learn! I don't want him to knock an eye off or anything! wink

Yeah, you just wait until you go through this! You had better be waiting... and waiting... and waiting... !


Tell your son to keep his chin down, too. smile That'll be important... at least later in life. biggrin Can't get punched in the throat that way!

Our little Justin or Julia will smack the shit out of some bitch, that's for sure! He'll have to learn that from his dad, though.


eek

NO!

NO!?

You're fucking with me.
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Reply #9 posted 09/22/06 12:52am

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Mazurack said:

CortestheKiller said:



Tell your son to keep his chin down, too. smile That'll be important... at least later in life. biggrin Can't get punched in the throat that way!

Our little Justin or Julia will smack the shit out of some bitch, that's for sure! He'll have to learn that from his dad, though.


eek

NO!

NO!?

You're fucking with me.


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Reply #10 posted 09/22/06 12:53am

Mazurack

CortestheKiller said:

Mazurack said:



eek

NO!

NO!?

You're fucking with me.


smile


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Reply #11 posted 09/22/06 12:54am

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Mazurack said:

CortestheKiller said:



smile


mad


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Reply #12 posted 09/22/06 12:54am

Mazurack

CortestheKiller said:

Mazurack said:



mad


biggrin


I hope you're joking.

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Reply #13 posted 09/22/06 12:56am

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Mazurack said:

CortestheKiller said:



biggrin


I hope you're joking.

confused


I thought I always told you I'd call you and demand your assistance. smile
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Reply #14 posted 09/22/06 12:57am

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Mazurack said:

Revolution said:

It's always good advice to tell your son to defend himself, to punch back if struck first. However, this got my son suspended for a day last year. Same thing, a certain kid was picking on my son and it came to blows (I think my son got the best of him) far from the school bldg, but still on school property. I called the school to complain about the kid, they got called into the office, and both were suspended. They actually told my son that he shouldn't have punched back, that he should have run back to the school to report the incident instead! eek Yeah, they live in the real world!

The good thing is that both boys realized they made a mistake, and vowed never to repeat the scene.

You may have to get the school involved and hopefully the boys will see the severity of the situation and cool it.


My mom suggested him telling on the kid. Like that would make matters better!

I'm prepared for suspension and I'm okay with it. I think that if he surprises the kid with one good blow the kid may think twice about repeating the sneak attacks.

I hope I have as good of an outcome as your son!


Good Luck guy...I know that age is a very strange age in kids...but, luckily, they are not coordinated enough to do real damage to each other physically.
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Reply #15 posted 09/22/06 12:58am

Mazurack

CortestheKiller said:

Mazurack said:



I hope you're joking.

confused


I thought I always told you I'd call you and demand your assistance. smile


Yeah, but things could have changed!

Whew!

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Reply #16 posted 09/22/06 1:01am

Mazurack

Revolution said:

Mazurack said:



My mom suggested him telling on the kid. Like that would make matters better!

I'm prepared for suspension and I'm okay with it. I think that if he surprises the kid with one good blow the kid may think twice about repeating the sneak attacks.

I hope I have as good of an outcome as your son!


Good Luck guy...I know that age is a very strange age in kids...but, luckily, they are not coordinated enough to do real damage to each other physically.


I'm not a guy... thanks for the luck, he'll need it and so will I! Tomorrow will be a very long day for me! smile

It is an extremely strange age in kids... both boys and girls! It's the boys that I find the most difficult because I don't know how to advise him in situations or in questions of the pee-pee and those "good dreams" where it's like I pee'd myself but "it's not pee, what is it, mom?"!

I don't know... by the looks of my stomach, thighs and arms the kid could do some real damage. I tried to act like they didn't really hurt though... you know!

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Reply #17 posted 09/22/06 1:02am

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Mazurack said:

CortestheKiller said:



I thought I always told you I'd call you and demand your assistance. smile


Yeah, but things could have changed!

Whew!

biggrin


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Reply #18 posted 09/22/06 1:10am

Byron

Have his older brother Peter walk him home from school...and if that idiot bully starts in with his "Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk" nonsense, have Peter belt the snot out of the little fucker, possibly knocking a tooth out his HIS mouth... nod thumbs up!


I think I may watch too much tv... hmmm
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Reply #19 posted 09/22/06 1:11am

Mazurack

Byron said:

Have his older brother Peter walk him home from school...and if that idiot bully starts in with his "Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk" nonsense, have Peter belt the snot out of the little fucker, possibly knocking a tooth out his HIS mouth... nod thumbs up!


I think I may watch too much tv... hmmm


confused

Thanks, Norby.
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Reply #20 posted 09/22/06 1:12am

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Byron said:

Have his older brother Peter walk him home from school...and if that idiot bully starts in with his "Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk" nonsense, have Peter belt the snot out of the little fucker, possibly knocking a tooth out his HIS mouth... nod thumbs up!


I think I may watch too much tv... hmmm

that episode was goofy as fuck. lol
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Reply #21 posted 09/22/06 1:16am

Byron

Mazurack said:

Byron said:

Have his older brother Peter walk him home from school...and if that idiot bully starts in with his "Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk" nonsense, have Peter belt the snot out of the little fucker, possibly knocking a tooth out his HIS mouth... nod thumbs up!


I think I may watch too much tv... hmmm


confused

Thanks, Norby.

Oh, don't mention it... biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 09/22/06 1:16am

Byron

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Byron said:

Have his older brother Peter walk him home from school...and if that idiot bully starts in with his "Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk" nonsense, have Peter belt the snot out of the little fucker, possibly knocking a tooth out his HIS mouth... nod thumbs up!


I think I may watch too much tv... hmmm

that episode was goofy as fuck. lol

Wasn't it?... lol
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Reply #23 posted 09/22/06 1:16am

nurse

Actually, I teach my son about not engaging in violence, but as mom's we must understand that there comes times that young men must defend themselves. In these instances I tell him to protect himself and as his mother I do my best to support him. Your son will do fine-this is just one of those instances wink .
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Reply #24 posted 09/22/06 1:24am

Mazurack

nurse said:

Actually, I teach my son about not engaging in violence, but as mom's we must understand that there comes times that young men must defend themselves. In these instances I tell him to protect himself and as his mother I do my best to support him. Your son will do fine-this is just one of those instances wink .



Thank you... smile

Isn't it scary, though? I mean... what if he misses? What if he packs too little of a punch? I don't want a round two to prove he could knock the snot out of this kid. I also don't want my son to come home with a black eye or a broken nose.

I don't think the kid wants to really go to blows with him but rather wants to show the other kids that he can do this and that my son won't do anything about it. A power trip sort of thing. Which, my son is all set to ignore, because none of this really bothers him too much, but I think I'm the one that can't take it and wants him to hit the other kid to make it stop. No sense going to school and being hit in the back just because a kid knows he can get away with it.

Am I wrong? Tell me if I am. Or should I just let him go on ignoring it all if it doesn't bother him too much? I did tell him that if he told this kid that he'll hit him back, if he hits him again, to actually follow through with it and that if he didn't feel comfortable doing it, just go on as he has. But, grrrr... !!!

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Reply #25 posted 09/22/06 1:27am

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Mazurack said:

nurse said:

Actually, I teach my son about not engaging in violence, but as mom's we must understand that there comes times that young men must defend themselves. In these instances I tell him to protect himself and as his mother I do my best to support him. Your son will do fine-this is just one of those instances wink .



Thank you... smile

Isn't it scary, though? I mean... what if he misses? What if he packs too little of a punch? I don't want a round two to prove he could knock the snot out of this kid. I also don't want my son to come home with a black eye or a broken nose.

I don't think the kid wants to really go to blows with him but rather wants to show the other kids that he can do this and that my son won't do anything about it. A power trip sort of thing. Which, my son is all set to ignore, because none of this really bothers him too much, but I think I'm the one that can't take it and wants him to hit the other kid to make it stop. No sense going to school and being hit in the back just because a kid knows he can get away with it.

Am I wrong? Tell me if I am. Or should I just let him go on ignoring it all if it doesn't bother him too much? I did tell him that if he told this kid that he'll hit him back, if he hits him again, to actually follow through with it and that if he didn't feel comfortable doing it, just go on as he has. But, grrrr... !!!

confused


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Just have S. teach him how to throw a punch. Surely he learned that lesson somewhere along the way.
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Reply #26 posted 09/22/06 1:30am

Mazurack

CortestheKiller said:

Mazurack said:




Thank you... smile

Isn't it scary, though? I mean... what if he misses? What if he packs too little of a punch? I don't want a round two to prove he could knock the snot out of this kid. I also don't want my son to come home with a black eye or a broken nose.

I don't think the kid wants to really go to blows with him but rather wants to show the other kids that he can do this and that my son won't do anything about it. A power trip sort of thing. Which, my son is all set to ignore, because none of this really bothers him too much, but I think I'm the one that can't take it and wants him to hit the other kid to make it stop. No sense going to school and being hit in the back just because a kid knows he can get away with it.

Am I wrong? Tell me if I am. Or should I just let him go on ignoring it all if it doesn't bother him too much? I did tell him that if he told this kid that he'll hit him back, if he hits him again, to actually follow through with it and that if he didn't feel comfortable doing it, just go on as he has. But, grrrr... !!!

confused


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Just have S. teach him how to throw a punch. Surely he learned that lesson somewhere along the way.


He knows how to throw a punch. Can't you read?

He just doesn't believe in fighting.
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Reply #27 posted 09/22/06 1:33am

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Mazurack said:

nurse said:

Actually, I teach my son about not engaging in violence, but as mom's we must understand that there comes times that young men must defend themselves. In these instances I tell him to protect himself and as his mother I do my best to support him. Your son will do fine-this is just one of those instances wink .



Thank you... smile

Isn't it scary, though? I mean... what if he misses? What if he packs too little of a punch? I don't want a round two to prove he could knock the snot out of this kid. I also don't want my son to come home with a black eye or a broken nose.

I don't think the kid wants to really go to blows with him but rather wants to show the other kids that he can do this and that my son won't do anything about it. A power trip sort of thing. Which, my son is all set to ignore, because none of this really bothers him too much, but I think I'm the one that can't take it and wants him to hit the other kid to make it stop. No sense going to school and being hit in the back just because a kid knows he can get away with it.

Am I wrong? Tell me if I am. Or should I just let him go on ignoring it all if it doesn't bother him too much? I did tell him that if he told this kid that he'll hit him back, if he hits him again, to actually follow through with it and that if he didn't feel comfortable doing it, just go on as he has. But, grrrr... !!!

confused


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Your right-your teachings are on point. I tell my son to ignore these things if possible, if it is unavoidable then he has to do what he has to do. My son is 13 now and really hasn't had to fight since maybe the 5th grade, but as a mom it is our duty to make sure that they are respectable young men. Fighting between kids these days seems to be out of control, but good parents like yourself can still see their children through. Just to be clear-if this kid continues to bother your son-he should first warn this kid then if necessary punch his light's out! I really didn't want to say that, but hey somebody had to razz
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Mazurack

nurse said:

Mazurack said:




Thank you... smile

Isn't it scary, though? I mean... what if he misses? What if he packs too little of a punch? I don't want a round two to prove he could knock the snot out of this kid. I also don't want my son to come home with a black eye or a broken nose.

I don't think the kid wants to really go to blows with him but rather wants to show the other kids that he can do this and that my son won't do anything about it. A power trip sort of thing. Which, my son is all set to ignore, because none of this really bothers him too much, but I think I'm the one that can't take it and wants him to hit the other kid to make it stop. No sense going to school and being hit in the back just because a kid knows he can get away with it.

Am I wrong? Tell me if I am. Or should I just let him go on ignoring it all if it doesn't bother him too much? I did tell him that if he told this kid that he'll hit him back, if he hits him again, to actually follow through with it and that if he didn't feel comfortable doing it, just go on as he has. But, grrrr... !!!

confused


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Your right-your teachings are on point. I tell my son to ignore these things if possible, if it is unavoidable then he has to do what he has to do. My son is 13 now and really hasn't had to fight since maybe the 5th grade, but as a mom it is our duty to make sure that they are respectable young men. Fighting between kids these days seems to be out of control, but good parents like yourself can still see their children through. Just to be clear-if this kid continues to bother your son-he should first warn this kid then if necessary punch his light's out! I really didn't want to say that, but hey somebody had to razz


Well, I'm more confident now. Thank you.

Yeah, I went through the whole thing. He takes his shot normally, you warn, then punch and make it good, but not too good to really hurt him badly.

Thanks, again!

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Reply #29 posted 09/22/06 1:40am

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Mazurack said:

nurse said:




Your right-your teachings are on point. I tell my son to ignore these things if possible, if it is unavoidable then he has to do what he has to do. My son is 13 now and really hasn't had to fight since maybe the 5th grade, but as a mom it is our duty to make sure that they are respectable young men. Fighting between kids these days seems to be out of control, but good parents like yourself can still see their children through. Just to be clear-if this kid continues to bother your son-he should first warn this kid then if necessary punch his light's out! I really didn't want to say that, but hey somebody had to razz


Well, I'm more confident now. Thank you.

Yeah, I went through the whole thing. He takes his shot normally, you warn, then punch and make it good, but not too good to really hurt him badly.

Thanks, again!

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