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Reply #60 posted 08/31/06 5:32am

JustErin

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susannah said:

JustErin said:



I can say never and know that it will never happen. I've had a lot of nevers in my life that I have stuck to and will always stick to not doing them.

You may never know what the future brings but you certainly can predict the decisions you will make when it comes to things like cheating.


You really think so? I dunno, you dont know where your life will take you, or the outcome of any relationship with a person you think you know everything about. It seems to me you cant say that you wont cheat, when someday down the line it might be at the forefront of your mind, the only thing you wanna do. Although then it wont seel like cheating, you wont think of it like that, because you will defend yourself.

You cant predict anything at all, not just your path confused People change...


Maybe that's the case for you, I dunno.

But I know who I am and I know that no matter what, I would never, ever cheat on someone...just like I know that I would never, ever beat my son.

I can't even think of an excuse for cheating. No matter what situation I am in, cheating is simply not an answer. It's who I am.
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Reply #61 posted 08/31/06 5:36am

susannah

JustErin said:

susannah said:



You really think so? I dunno, you dont know where your life will take you, or the outcome of any relationship with a person you think you know everything about. It seems to me you cant say that you wont cheat, when someday down the line it might be at the forefront of your mind, the only thing you wanna do. Although then it wont seel like cheating, you wont think of it like that, because you will defend yourself.

You cant predict anything at all, not just your path confused People change...


Maybe that's the case for you, I dunno.

But I know who I am and I know that no matter what, I would never, ever cheat on someone...just like I know that I would never, ever beat my son.

I can't even think of an excuse for cheating. No matter what situation I am in, cheating is simply not an answer. It's who I am.


well thats cool, its good that you can say that about yourself. I just wouldnt like to put myself in a box, persay, because inevitably I will break out of it and suffer the I told you so's! Im not talking about cheating, because I doubt I would do that, but just in general I dont like to ever say never... shrug Maybe I've been told I told you so too often already...
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Reply #62 posted 08/31/06 5:37am

Spookymuffin

falloff at how you expressed yourself there.

No subtlety, no playing coy...you might as well have said:

"I run a brothel."
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Reply #63 posted 08/31/06 5:38am

susannah

Spookymuffin said:

falloff at how you expressed yourself there.

No subtlety, no playing coy...you might as well have said:

"I run a brothel."


whofarted

Who are you talking to?!
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Reply #64 posted 08/31/06 5:39am

Spookymuffin

susannah said:

Spookymuffin said:

falloff at how you expressed yourself there.

No subtlety, no playing coy...you might as well have said:

"I run a brothel."


whofarted

Who are you talking to?!


The thread starter, evidently.

I'm holding a syringe packed full of horse in my hand. Should I take it? I might die...
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Reply #65 posted 08/31/06 5:43am

Anx

susannah said:

JustErin said:



I can say never and know that it will never happen. I've had a lot of nevers in my life that I have stuck to and will always stick to not doing them.

You may never know what the future brings but you certainly can predict the decisions you will make when it comes to things like cheating.


You really think so? I dunno, you dont know where your life will take you, or the outcome of any relationship with a person you think you know everything about. It seems to me you cant say that you wont cheat, when someday down the line it might be at the forefront of your mind, the only thing you wanna do. Although then it wont seel like cheating, you wont think of it like that, because you will defend yourself.

You cant predict anything at all, not just your path confused People change...



I don't believe in setting absolutes. By realizing that one day my "never" may become a "maybe", it helps me resolve to that "never" for today, and it makes the disappointment less harsh when I one day realize I have to compromise on it.

There's no such thing as "never".
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Reply #66 posted 08/31/06 5:43am

susannah

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susannah said:



whofarted

Who are you talking to?!


The thread starter, evidently.

I'm holding a syringe packed full of horse in my hand. Should I take it? I might die...


Ah right ok.

Ooh I wonder what this is a metaphor for! hmmm

capri sun juice??
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Reply #67 posted 08/31/06 5:44am

Spookymuffin

susannah said:

Spookymuffin said:



The thread starter, evidently.

I'm holding a syringe packed full of horse in my hand. Should I take it? I might die...


Ah right ok.

Ooh I wonder what this is a metaphor for! hmmm

capri sun juice??


Coke Zero. nod
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Reply #68 posted 08/31/06 5:46am

susannah

Anx said:

susannah said:



You really think so? I dunno, you dont know where your life will take you, or the outcome of any relationship with a person you think you know everything about. It seems to me you cant say that you wont cheat, when someday down the line it might be at the forefront of your mind, the only thing you wanna do. Although then it wont seel like cheating, you wont think of it like that, because you will defend yourself.

You cant predict anything at all, not just your path confused People change...



I don't believe in setting absolutes. By realizing that one day my "never" may become a "maybe", it helps me resolve to that "never" for today, and it makes the disappointment less harsh when I one day realize I have to compromise on it.

There's no such thing as "never".


nod Too true.

And all you have to do is remember back to any time in the past when you said you would never do something. I bet most of us have done plenty things we said we wouldnt! lol
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Reply #69 posted 08/31/06 5:48am

Natisse

Anx said:

There's no such thing as "never".


my point exactly nod clapping
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Reply #70 posted 08/31/06 5:50am

JustErin

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Anx said:

susannah said:



You really think so? I dunno, you dont know where your life will take you, or the outcome of any relationship with a person you think you know everything about. It seems to me you cant say that you wont cheat, when someday down the line it might be at the forefront of your mind, the only thing you wanna do. Although then it wont seel like cheating, you wont think of it like that, because you will defend yourself.

You cant predict anything at all, not just your path confused People change...



I don't believe in setting absolutes. By realizing that one day my "never" may become a "maybe", it helps me resolve to that "never" for today, and it makes the disappointment less harsh when I one day realize I have to compromise on it.

There's no such thing as "never".



No such thing as never for you. For me, I can certainly speak in absolutes when it comes to certain (but not all) things.
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Reply #71 posted 08/31/06 5:50am

susannah

Spookymuffin said:

susannah said:



Ah right ok.

Ooh I wonder what this is a metaphor for! hmmm

capri sun juice??


Coke Zero. nod


rolleyes

so not only is it not drugs, its not even real coca cola?! sugar free Ben, I mean really, ben hmph!
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Reply #72 posted 08/31/06 5:53am

Spookymuffin

susannah said:

Spookymuffin said:



Coke Zero. nod


rolleyes

so not only is it not drugs, its not even real coca cola?! sugar free Ben, I mean really, ben hmph!


It is a drug. Caffeine is a drug. nod geek

I'm so HIIIIIGH.

Actually, that would be bad. Being high on any narcotic would be bad in the workplace.
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Reply #73 posted 08/31/06 5:57am

Anx

JustErin said:

Anx said:




I don't believe in setting absolutes. By realizing that one day my "never" may become a "maybe", it helps me resolve to that "never" for today, and it makes the disappointment less harsh when I one day realize I have to compromise on it.

There's no such thing as "never".



No such thing as never for you. For me, I can certainly speak in absolutes when it comes to certain (but not all) things.


are you a machine? can you be programmed to perform the same tasks the same way until you are no longer able to function?

the more you set up your absolutes, the more you set yourself up for devastation. i do believe that.
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Reply #74 posted 08/31/06 6:07am

JustErin

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Anx said:

JustErin said:




No such thing as never for you. For me, I can certainly speak in absolutes when it comes to certain (but not all) things.


are you a machine? can you be programmed to perform the same tasks the same way until you are no longer able to function?

the more you set up your absolutes, the more you set yourself up for devastation. i do believe that.


What does being a machine have to do with it?

I know who I am. I know what I believe in and I am not afraid to speak in absolutes when it comes to some things. I wouldn't say "never" to all things, just things I believe very strongly in and have a clear understanding why I believe in them.

I don't find comfort, like maybe some others do, in saying, "Well, never say never, you never know what may happen" out of fear of devastation.

If I say it, I mean it. If people say something and then do the opposite, it's because they didn't truly mean it or believe it in the first place, imo anyway.
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Reply #75 posted 08/31/06 6:14am

Anx

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What does being a machine have to do with it?


because machines lack emotion and, generally speaking, they're not designed to behave irrationally or in the heat of the moment. machines are designed to behave strictly as they were designed to behave. even when they behave randomly, that randomness is programmed, so the chaotic behavior is limited to the parameters which were programmed into it.

you could decide in five minutes (or right now, or next year) that being a nun is for you. or that a career in porn really wouldn't be such a bad thing, if you really think about it. or that you need more than anything in the world to be a man. or that you want to settle down with a nice amish husband and be a farmer's wife. or about a kajillion other things. because you're a human, and humans are weird that way.

that's what i meant.

when i say "there's no such thing as never", i'm not saying that as an excuse to lead an undisciplined life. i'm just acknowledging a reality of the human condition. i would like to believe that i'll never eat meat as long as i live. for 18 years, i've done just that. i may wake up tomorrow decided i should really have a big juicy steak. not likely, but after 18 years, it had better be a damn good reason. and if that damn good reason presents itself, well...there ya go.

i'm not looking for things to break my personal "absolutes" - but i can't be presumptuous enough to say those factors don't have the potential to exist. i'm not god.
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Reply #76 posted 08/31/06 6:19am

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raveon2tnek said:

i love my girlfriend real mad but i get very lonely when she leaves town for a couple of days and suddenly i realise i cant really sleep alone in my big house and so i cheat on her. [b]does this pattern relate to u?[/b]



whoa. eek no.
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Reply #77 posted 08/31/06 6:21am

JasmineFire

JustErin said:

Anx said:



are you a machine? can you be programmed to perform the same tasks the same way until you are no longer able to function?

the more you set up your absolutes, the more you set yourself up for devastation. i do believe that.


What does being a machine have to do with it?

I know who I am. I know what I believe in and I am not afraid to speak in absolutes when it comes to some things. I wouldn't say "never" to all things, just things I believe very strongly in and have a clear understanding why I believe in them.

I don't find comfort, like maybe some others do, in saying, "Well, never say never, you never know what may happen" out of fear of devastation.

If I say it, I mean it. If people say something and then do the opposite, it's because they didn't truly mean it or believe it in the first place, imo anyway.

because there but for the grace of God go I. Or you in this case.

You may know that doing something may be out of character for you but then you never know when you may have to act out of character. shrug
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Reply #78 posted 08/31/06 6:23am

JustErin

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Anx said:

JustErin said:


What does being a machine have to do with it?


because machines lack emotion and, generally speaking, they're not designed to behave irrationally or in the heat of the moment. machines are designed to behave strictly as they were designed to behave. even when they behave randomly, that randomness is programmed, so the chaotic behavior is limited to the parameters which were programmed into it.

you could decide in five minutes (or right now, or next year) that being a nun is for you. or that a career in porn really wouldn't be such a bad thing, if you really think about it. or that you need more than anything in the world to be a man. or that you want to settle down with a nice amish husband and be a farmer's wife. or about a kajillion other things. because you're a human, and humans are weird that way.

that's what i meant.

when i say "there's no such thing as never", i'm not saying that as an excuse to lead an undisciplined life. i'm just acknowledging a reality of the human condition. i would like to believe that i'll never eat meat as long as i live. for 18 years, i've done just that. i may wake up tomorrow decided i should really have a big juicy steak. not likely, but after 18 years, it had better be a damn good reason. and if that damn good reason presents itself, well...there ya go.

i'm not looking for things to break my personal "absolutes" - but i can't be presumptuous enough to say those factors don't have the potential to exist. i'm not god.


I understand what you are saying but I just fail to see how saying "never" when it comes to cheating and the pain it causes others when you do it, is being a "machine" or lacking emotion.

I control the decisions I make, and I have a very good understanding why I have come to the decision not to ever cheat. Based on that understanding and knowing who I am I can see nothing ever changing that.

People may evolve but the true core of a person does not change.

Anyhoo, I am not trying to change anyone else's opinion on this, I'm just stating what I believe in.
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Reply #79 posted 08/31/06 7:07am

jerseykrs

I will never NOT want to kick Erin in her ass.
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Reply #80 posted 08/31/06 7:14am

bluesbaby

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I hope the thread starter has gotten an AIDS test, since he is putting his girlfriend (why he calls her that is beyond me) and all the other women at risk with is selfish behavior.

confused
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Reply #81 posted 08/31/06 7:24am

purplerein

raveon2tnek said:

i love my girlfriend real mad but i get very lonely when she leaves town for a couple of days and suddenly i realise i cant really sleep alone in my big house and so i cheat on her. does this pattern relate to u?


First of all...try to image how you would feel if she did that to you if you left town for a couple of days. You're also jeopardizing not only your health but hers, with risking exposure to HIV, Hep C, Herpes, and every other ssd.
Second, instead of using sex as a comfort for your loneliness, do something constructive..volunteer at a homeless shelter..big a big brother to a fatherless kid...
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Reply #82 posted 08/31/06 10:52am

TMPletz

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i'm not looking for things to break my personal "absolutes" - but i can't be presumptuous enough to say those factors don't have the potential to exist. i'm not god.

Can I still worship you? bow
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Reply #83 posted 08/31/06 10:53am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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TMPletz said:

Anx said:

i'm not looking for things to break my personal "absolutes" - but i can't be presumptuous enough to say those factors don't have the potential to exist. i'm not god.

Can I still worship you? bow


Me? Of course batting eyes
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Reply #84 posted 08/31/06 10:58am

TMPletz

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

TMPletz said:


Can I still worship you? bow


Me? Of course batting eyes

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Reply #85 posted 08/31/06 11:06am

Anx

TMPletz said:

Anx said:

i'm not looking for things to break my personal "absolutes" - but i can't be presumptuous enough to say those factors don't have the potential to exist. i'm not god.

Can I still worship you? bow


if you must. you know where to drop off the gold and the wine. go ahead and hold off on the animal sacrifices, but i'm always needing virgins.
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Reply #86 posted 08/31/06 12:23pm

TMPletz

Anx said:

TMPletz said:


Can I still worship you? bow


if you must. you know where to drop off the gold and the wine. go ahead and hold off on the animal sacrifices, but i'm always needing virgins.

Hmm...nope, I don't know any. razz
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Reply #87 posted 08/31/06 2:03pm

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What a crock! evil
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Reply #88 posted 08/31/06 3:58pm

thesexofit

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"if she would of been faithful.....i would have missed out on u"
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Reply #89 posted 08/31/06 4:17pm

senik

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cutestgirlever said:

raveon2tnek said:

i love my girlfriend real mad but i get very lonely when she leaves town for a couple of days and suddenly i realise i cant really sleep alone in my big house and so i cheat on her. does this pattern relate to u?




Have I dated you in the past....cause fuck it sounds like I know you and everyother asshole I have dated until my current BF.


lol

"..My work is personal, I'm a working person, I put in work, I work with purpose.."
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