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Reply #30 posted 07/20/06 8:06am

TonyVanDam

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MickG said:

ILLUMITATI: grouping of people in light.

there's all kinds of speculation on consparicy thinking of if a group exists.

However, one must pose the question if someone was of the true Illumitati, would they need to walk through a door or speak with words?



Where have YOU been?:


http://www.infowars.com

http://www.prisonplanet.com
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Reply #31 posted 07/20/06 8:11am

mrdespues

TonyVanDam said:

MickG said:

ILLUMITATI: grouping of people in light.

there's all kinds of speculation on consparicy thinking of if a group exists.

However, one must pose the question if someone was of the true Illumitati, would they need to walk through a door or speak with words?



Where have YOU been?:


http://www.infowars.com

http://www.prisonplanet.com


those sites are almost worse than Fox news

disbelief
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Reply #32 posted 07/20/06 8:19am

Mach

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Mick, could U explain this please? confused




Definition:

group claiming enlightenment: a group claiming to have received special religious or spiritual enlightenment, especially an 18th-century German secret society with deist and republican ideas


anyway

yes...there are subgroups of this original group
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Reply #33 posted 07/20/06 8:24am

TonyVanDam

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mrdespues said:

TonyVanDam said:



those sites are almost worse than Fox news

disbelief


No freaking way!!! This is Alex Jones' news websites, not Bill O'Riley!

Alex Jones is the real deal. He's one of George W. Bush's most hated enemies.

Do a better background check next time.
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Reply #34 posted 07/20/06 8:33am

mrdespues

TonyVanDam said:

mrdespues said:



those sites are almost worse than Fox news

disbelief


No freaking way!!! This is Alex Jones' news websites, not Bill O'Riley!

Alex Jones is the real deal. He's one of George W. Bush's most hated enemies.

Do a better background check next time.


no, i am just fine with my research, thankyou. i am aware of his political leanings but that is not the point - they are both as bad as each other. it's all junk. i believe it is possible that there are people with bad intentions working behind the scenes, pulling the strings, etc, but i am OPTIMISTIC about the future. there is no other way to be, in my opinion. further than that, 99% of ANYTHING you read on the INTARDNET is fucking bullshit.
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Reply #35 posted 07/20/06 8:39am

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mrdespues said:

TonyVanDam said:



No freaking way!!! This is Alex Jones' news websites, not Bill O'Riley!

Alex Jones is the real deal. He's one of George W. Bush's most hated enemies.

Do a better background check next time.


no, i am just fine with my research, thankyou. i am aware of his political leanings but that is not the point - they are both as bad as each other. it's all junk. i believe it is possible that there are people with bad intentions working behind the scenes, pulling the strings, etc, but i am OPTIMISTIC about the future. there is no other way to be, in my opinion. further than that, 99% of ANYTHING you read on the INTARDNET is fucking bullshit.


Most of my own research came from reading books like this one:
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Reply #36 posted 07/20/06 8:47am

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PANDURITO said:

Sorry MickG but I can't help it

IllumiTati ? giggle


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Reply #37 posted 07/20/06 8:49am

mrdespues

TonyVanDam said:

mrdespues said:



no, i am just fine with my research, thankyou. i am aware of his political leanings but that is not the point - they are both as bad as each other. it's all junk. i believe it is possible that there are people with bad intentions working behind the scenes, pulling the strings, etc, but i am OPTIMISTIC about the future. there is no other way to be, in my opinion. further than that, 99% of ANYTHING you read on the INTARDNET is fucking bullshit.


Most of my own research came from reading books like this one:


exactly. just look at the guy. junk.
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Reply #38 posted 07/20/06 9:58am

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mrdespues said:

TonyVanDam said:



Most of my own research came from reading books like this one:


exactly. just look at the guy. junk.


So what do you believe, Big Brother (your government) is always right?lol Or are you a freemason that likes to make up excuse for everything around you?

...On second thought, just forget it. It's your choice if you want to remain blind to the facts that we're all victims of a corrupt system!
rolleyes
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Reply #39 posted 07/20/06 10:07am

mrdespues

TonyVanDam said:

mrdespues said:



exactly. just look at the guy. junk.


So what do you believe, Big Brother (your government) is always right?lol Or are you a freemason that likes to make up excuse for everything around you?

...On second thought, just forget it. It's your choice if you want to remain blind to the facts that we're all victims of a corrupt system!
rolleyes


I don't play the victim role.

rolleyes

But yes, the system IS corrupt. It doesn't mean I have to read a bunch of fiction in order to explain it all, though.

So, according to you people fall into those two categories, eh? Big Brother victims and Freemasons?

Three words.

Get an education.

biggrin

wink

Honestly though, I am actually very open to alternative views and spend some of my regular surfing time at http://www.abovetopsecret.com but I don't BELIEVE everything I read there or anywhere else (again, ESPECIALLY on the net) which I sense is the difference between you and me... I research by all means, but take it all with a grain of salt, dude!

Don't lose your ability to think for yourself! It really is the MOST IMPORTANT THING and you should know that there are swindlers on each side of the spectrum concerning this wonderful tapestry we call life. Enjoy the ride!

smile


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Reply #40 posted 07/20/06 10:55am

TonyVanDam

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mrdespues said:

TonyVanDam said:



So what do you believe, Big Brother (your government) is always right?lol Or are you a freemason that likes to make up excuse for everything around you?

...On second thought, just forget it. It's your choice if you want to remain blind to the facts that we're all victims of a corrupt system!
rolleyes


I don't play the victim role.

rolleyes

But yes, the system IS corrupt. It doesn't mean I have to read a bunch of fiction in order to explain it all, though.

So, according to you people fall into those two categories, eh? Big Brother victims and Freemasons?

Three words.

Get an education.

biggrin

Honestly though, I am actually very open to alternative views and spend some of my regular surfing time at http://www.abovetopsecret.com but I don't BELIEVE everything I read there or anywhere else (again, ESPECIALLY on the net) which I sense is the difference between you and me... I research by all means, but take it all with a grain of salt, dude!

Don't lose your ability to think for yourself! It really is the MOST IMPORTANT THING and you should know that there are swindlers on each side of the spectrum concerning this wonderful tapestry we call life. Enjoy the ride!

smile



1) Everyones education doesn't end in high school or college. So therefore, you need to go get additional education at your local bookstore & public library.

2) Thanks a lot for prejudging people that might know a lot more about the real world than you do. IMHO, you come off like a very selfish person if you think EVERYONE receive their info from the internet alone. Even when I tell you a little about my book knowledge and the sources of my own research, you still want to treat THIS SUBJECT (Secret Societies) like a fucking joke!

Either way, it's your lost if you don't care to know. I know how to think, read, and study for myself.

The real problem is if YOU know the difference between the truths and the lies. I can tell! Now what about YOU?


Think about it.

wink
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Reply #41 posted 07/20/06 11:01am

mrdespues

TonyVanDam said:

mrdespues said:



I don't play the victim role.

rolleyes

But yes, the system IS corrupt. It doesn't mean I have to read a bunch of fiction in order to explain it all, though.

So, according to you people fall into those two categories, eh? Big Brother victims and Freemasons?

Three words.

Get an education.

biggrin

Honestly though, I am actually very open to alternative views and spend some of my regular surfing time at http://www.abovetopsecret.com but I don't BELIEVE everything I read there or anywhere else (again, ESPECIALLY on the net) which I sense is the difference between you and me... I research by all means, but take it all with a grain of salt, dude!

Don't lose your ability to think for yourself! It really is the MOST IMPORTANT THING and you should know that there are swindlers on each side of the spectrum concerning this wonderful tapestry we call life. Enjoy the ride!

smile



1) Everyones education doesn't end in high school or college. So therefore, you need to go get additional education at your local bookstore & public library.

2) Thanks a lot for prejudging people that might know a lot more about the real world than you do. IMHO, you come off like a very selfish person if you think EVERYONE receive their info from the internet alone. Even when I tell you a little about my book knowledge and the sources of my own research, you still want to treat THIS SUBJECT (Secret Societies) like a fucking joke!

Either way, it's your lost if you don't care to know. I know how to think, read, and study for myself.

The real problem is if YOU know the difference between the truths and the lies. I can tell! Now what about YOU?


Think about it.

wink


you're getting too serious and presuming a bit too much here... so i'm done.

to recap what i really said: i entertain certain ideas, but i like to keep my ten toes in the sand, too... know what i mean? i'm sure you do.


smile
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Reply #42 posted 07/20/06 11:08am

TonyVanDam

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mrdespues said:

TonyVanDam said:




1) Everyones education doesn't end in high school or college. So therefore, you need to go get additional education at your local bookstore & public library.

2) Thanks a lot for prejudging people that might know a lot more about the real world than you do. IMHO, you come off like a very selfish person if you think EVERYONE receive their info from the internet alone. Even when I tell you a little about my book knowledge and the sources of my own research, you still want to treat THIS SUBJECT (Secret Societies) like a fucking joke!

Either way, it's your lost if you don't care to know. I know how to think, read, and study for myself.

The real problem is if YOU know the difference between the truths and the lies. I can tell! Now what about YOU?


Think about it.

wink


you're getting too serious and presuming a bit too much here... so i'm done.

to recap what i really said: i entertain certain ideas, but i like to keep my ten toes in the sand, too... know what i mean? i'm sure you do.


smile



In a battle against the system, I'm all business.biggrin
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