ufoclub said:

Good on you - I did the same for my design exams. I'm not being harsh or criticising you in any way, sorry if it came across that way.

jtfolden said:

[comment removed - Tom] You responded to a message posted by spookymuffing that was quoting a year as referred to by ME. And it makes absolutely NO SENSE to respond by starting to talk about bundled software when the original point was clearly about media production. A great number of high-cost multimedia programs was already mentioned way before I stepped in and it was those that the discussion I chose to partake in was dealing with anyway. So please follow the thread YOURSELF.

I already apologized about not understanding that those very specs posted were supposed to be for a laptop (were they? It supports BOTH standards of RAM! Quite fascinating for a non-user configurable machine), The conversation at that point was clearly not dealing with just confining the issue to laptops only, and sally just posted the specs on the ordered machine. And stop twisting my words that I would have talked about "building a notebook for 300$" which is clearly not what I said. But go on and act like a child without the capacity for tertiary level of thinking if you really must insist.




I have not made a single answer to any of sally's personal posts on multimedia production. That was a discussion taking place at the sidelines of this thread and not dealing with the top post at all anyway. Besides it's clear that sally has already bought a computer based on the information gathered from forums. And I do doubt it that it would be a bad choice by any means.



Which perfectly describes the target user group for the marketing department of Macintosh computers, thank you for enforcing those views.
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If u REQUIRE quality, MAC all day long.
If like things that DON'T work well go with PC.

ufoclub said:

Windows XP is the same visually, as it was when it was released in 2001. They haven't really changed it. I know Macs lead the way with the GUI, but I think it's not really far to say that anyone else that spruces up their interface from time to time is simply ripping of Macs.

Thank you for not removing the entire post, a decent moderating decision. (altough we do have emoticons that say the same thing and they're actually enabled by the org itself? )

Novabreaker said:

We do but they're usually used lightheartedly, it felt like the discussion was getting a little heated, that's all.

I'm on my new MacBook Pro now.

OMG it is. FUCKING. AMAZING.

The keypad glows. And it's platinum colored. The speed is Wow.

I feel like I'm in Star Wars. lol

Novabreaker said:

Nova, I chose to ignore the extraneous bits of the discussion and focus on the particular comment of the message I was responding to at the time. Which went out of it's way to mention built-in software. It seems you want to make this all about you and you want me to respond in a 'special way' that pleases YOU. I'm sorry, I'm not going to do that. So, please, take whatever attitude you'd like to inject in your posts and aim it elsewhere. It's entirely unneeded here and your childishness will now be ignored.



...and there's not a thing wrong with focusing on that market. Macs are great machines that, thanks to OS X, can easily serve both ends of the market. Advanced users without silly biases already know or can find out and make informed decisions for themselves, they don't need a lot of fluffy bunny marketing.

Mara said:

Which speed did you get?

i meant to post this the other day when i was looking through consumer report/review articles online. it was a response to one of the many glowing reviews for the new macbook (every review was glowing, by the way). i thought it was funny enough.


Don't use Apple!

They are too expensive, like Ferrari's. Thats why everybody doesn't drive Ferrari's.

Important software like Sober.Win32 and Blaster simply don't run. And the error reporting is lacking, I haven't seen an error report for ages.

And the user base is restricted to creative, innovative, intelligent cliques.. you know, the vast minority, and we all know minorities are bad.

For the sake of the rest of us, please don't switch.

Thankyou.

sallysassalot said:

They summed it up nicely.

jtfolden said:

2.0 GHz. They had 2.16, but I didn't feel it was super-necessary considering my computer habits and lifestyle. I don't do too much high-end production and the like.

i've used both over the years, and i'm sorry, but i'm all PC all the way. i realize i won't be part of the Mac Rapture when iGod calls on his flock, but i'll just clutch my little Dell laptop to my soulless self and figure out a way to survive.

Anx said:

Really? Why? I've used them both for 13 years now and My Mac's kick the Dog poop out of my pc's for being RELIABLE.

Graycap23 said:

i've never lost anything important from any PC i've ever owned. i've dealt with macs crashing on me more than i've ever dealt with PCs crashing on me. go figure.

Anx said:

and this is why i enjoy reading your posts!

pc or not, dell is the devil. i've never had so many problems with an electronic item than i have with all my dell brand stuff. from the laptop right down to the router and further down to the wireless card. and then i can't understand a thing tech support is saying to me AND i have to pay a halfhourly rate to repeat "i'm sorry, can you say that again? i didn't quite get it" for 20 minutes.

pc is cool but dell drives me bonkers!
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Anx said:

That's interesting. I've had the opposite effect.

sallysassalot said:

i've only had my dell laptop for about 6 months, though fortunately that's what we use at my job and we have an IT/helpdesk department trained to service dell PCs. yay! thankfully nothing's happened with my laptop yet...

Anx said:

I still have 3 old ass g3's employed in the studio. They have NOT missed a beat.

The answer is pretty easy.

Unless you are making music or doing extensive graphic animation or something like that...go with what you like and know. They are almost equal in terms of speed and processing. True, less virus' exist for mac...but that is changing as macs become more prevelant.

Now if you ARE making music or doing heavy processing with graphics and such...I say go with Mac.

superspaceboy said:

So far, it really isn't. What we do see an increase of, since Macs are getting more attention of late, is media organizations and anti-virus software authors creating a bunch of hype about "possible threats" or "Lab room examples".

How many viruses are there for OS X out in the wild, self-propgating wildly on the Internet? Answer = NONE.

OS 9 and prior releases had a few.

Symantec claims that there are 72,605 viruses/worms and their variants in the latest antivirus update for Windows.

sallysassalot said:

I totally agree about Dell. I've had to service a heck of a lot of Dells, and also HPs, in the last few years. If I was going the PC route, personally I wouldn't mind a Sony, though. They have some fairly nice offerings (or at least they did the last time I checked). I just can't take long hours working with XP, though. Vista *should* be a better option than XP, depending on how they configure a few things in the final release.

jtfolden said:

I love my VAIO, so much so that I'll be buying another. Not a problem, ever.

jerseykrs said:

Are the problems software or hardware related? I need get a new PC in the next week. What should I get?

Anx said:

If those were OS 9 systems then I believe it. It really didn't take much to knock those over (thankfully, they are about the easiest to recover from, though.)

jtfolden said:

Whoa! No need to get it all in a bunch. There are a few around, but not a lot. I wasn't really refering to OS X or whatever. Really there isn't much point to make a virus for a mac...and that was my point. When Macs start to be prevelant in the workplace or in gov't agencies, we'll be seeing some more. But really until then, there isn't muych point in making a virus that'll dump a students term paper...or destroy a music file.

Don't talk politics

Don't talk religion

Don't tell argue with a Mac guy.

holy crap this thread is still going!

Graycap23 said:

my dell has problems with both. the software on my boyfriend's mac is much easier to use and does what its supposed to do smoothly but that could be because the computer itself sucks. if i'm running itunes and have 2 windows open, things are noticably slower. on top of that the dell router i have craps out...or is it the wireless card...or both? tech support at dell is awful and in 3 1/2 years i've had two dell computers die on me, one irreparably.

if you go pc, get a lenova or sony. they really are leaders in pc world.

sallysassalot said:

My mac's are fine.....I just need 2 add a PC. I was going with a compac but know I'm not sure.
Maybe Sony is the ticket.