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Thread started 06/05/06 7:49am

Anx

Roxio or Nero?

So I've dropped a lot of money on Nero software over the past year or so - I bought 6.0, upgraded to 7.0, was nice and faithful to my precious Nero and all its lovely functions...

...but I'll be damned if I can get the thing to work right on my new laptop.

Meanwhile, the cheesy little Roxio/Sonic CD burning program that came pre-loaded on my laptop is working quite nicely for me, despite its somewhat limited capabilities (the sound balancing sucks, there's no way to fade tracks into each other, blah blah).

So I'm thinking of removing Nero from my computer and upgrading my Roxio software. I saw Best Buy has Roxio stuff for thirty bucks (cheap!) and it has most of the CD burning goodies that Nero has.

Has anyone had bad experiences with Roxio? Anyone have any tips on how I can revive my Nero software?
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Reply #1 posted 06/05/06 7:53am

Imago

I have had bad experiences in the past with Roxio.
But I'm currently running it now.


I much prefer Nero to Roxio still, but for some reason the most recent version of Nero kept bombing on me.

The issue I have with latest offering of Roxio is that the interface is now to restrictive. It's lost it's "windows feel" and I'm just not liking it at all. Dare I say it, I even like Nero's video editing over Roxio now (and this was Roxio's one strong point).

Both are very capable and full featured--I just like Nero better.
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Reply #2 posted 06/05/06 7:56am

Anx

i haven't been able to do a damn thing with CD burning on nero 7.0...i had problems with 6.0 too when i loaded it to my new laptop, and the nero customer support people told me to upgrade and that would fix it. fifty bucks later, and 7.0 didn't fix a thing. lol
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Reply #3 posted 06/05/06 8:02am

Imago

Anx said:

i haven't been able to do a damn thing with CD burning on nero 7.0...i had problems with 6.0 too when i loaded it to my new laptop, and the nero customer support people told me to upgrade and that would fix it. fifty bucks later, and 7.0 didn't fix a thing. lol


Customer Support will always tell you that. They're making 12-15 bucks an hour at the very most and often get rated according to how many calls they take in an hour, so they're inclined to not really support you very well. Only Microsoft and a few other support places actually resolve your issues.

Upgrading to the next version is the biggest scam these stupid companies throw at you. sigh The sad thing is that some vendors won't support older software so you end up having to load the new software (which doesn't work) just to get answers out of them.

It makes it 5 times worse if they've been offshored to India. Those techs REALLY don't help.

Did you completely uninstall Nero?


One thing you can try is completely uninstalling Nero, re-running Windows servicepack2 (if it lets you) and reinstalling Nero.

Or just uninstall Nero and reinstall it to see if that works. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 06/05/06 8:03am

RipHer2Shreds

Roxio's crap. Nero for me.
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Reply #5 posted 06/05/06 8:14am

Novabreaker

Roxio / adaptec / etc. software has been terribly bad for me. On my previous CD-RW drive whenever I tried to burn an audio CD-R it would place a VERY loud electronic interface noise at the end of each track. Not to mention I quite often ended up having unworking CD-Rs after a couple of multisession burns. One of the reasons why I still have my Linux partition intact on my computer is because it comes with such amass of choice for CD burning software.
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Reply #6 posted 06/05/06 8:28am

Anx

i was thinking about uninstalling nero and reinstalling it...i have a hunch that there might be bits of 6.0 or the 7.0 demo clashing with the paid 7.0 upgrade, and that's what's making it act all wonky. is that possible?
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Reply #7 posted 06/05/06 8:33am

Imago

Anx said:

i was thinking about uninstalling nero and reinstalling it...i have a hunch that there might be bits of 6.0 or the 7.0 demo clashing with the paid 7.0 upgrade, and that's what's making it act all wonky. is that possible?


Yeah try that.
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Reply #8 posted 06/05/06 8:50am

Tom

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Easy CS Creator has always been too bloated with excesive features and a cumbersome user interface, that I stopped using it a long time ago. Unfortunately, Nero has become just as bad.

The newest version of Nero actually has a bug with it's mp3 codec that causes random skipping in burned CDs. I don't even use it to burn albums anymore, I just fire up DeepBurner, which is almost like a carbon copy of the old school Nero.

The newest version of Nero also has a problem launching Nero Vision if you have McAfee Antivirus running. You have to disable the antivirus, to launch it, otherwise the program never completely launches. And when you are creating DVD's and try to create chapters, the video preview lags really bad.

There's lots of freeware programs if you just want to burn CDs. Even Windows Media Player can burn you a CD, as well as Winamp. MixMeister is a great program if you want to put together mix albums, with fades and beat matching, etc...
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Reply #9 posted 06/05/06 8:52am

Anx

i'll check out mixmeister. i hate windows media. i won't use it for burning stuff unless i'm forced to do so by NPGMC or something.

what i hate giving up about NERO is that i can make a comp CD and then use their cover design software without having to type in all the info. i really don't need all the video and dvd crap.
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Reply #10 posted 06/05/06 9:02am

gsh

Get the clean uninstall tool from Nero's site - Nero often leaves footprints behind even after uninstalling, so this tool was developed to ensure a clean uninstall.
http://www.nero.com/nero7...Tools.html
Personally I've been happy with Nero 6 OEM suite 3 that I bought with a drive for £5 - upgrades from Nero all install no problem. Having said that, I only use Nero as a burning tool (mainly for cds which the auto flac conversion helps with nicley) and therefore have no need of any of it's other functions.
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Reply #11 posted 06/05/06 9:03am

superspaceboy

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Anx said:

i'll check out mixmeister. i hate windows media. i won't use it for burning stuff unless i'm forced to do so by NPGMC or something.

what i hate giving up about NERO is that i can make a comp CD and then use their cover design software without having to type in all the info. i really don't need all the video and dvd crap.


Finding the right program that works on your computer is tricky.

I have used Roxio and EZ CD Creator at different times. I like them both. I just use normally what comes bundled with hard ware. Right now I use Nero, because it came with my DVD burner. It works fine. I like it a lot.

You could uninstall Nero and reinstall it. Try installing without the upgrade. Though if you bought it and the upgrade, their customer support should help you.

Mixmeister is not what you need. That's a program to make digital mixes (great for mashups) and is very expensive.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #12 posted 06/05/06 9:04am

superspaceboy

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Anx said:

i'll check out mixmeister. i hate windows media. i won't use it for burning stuff unless i'm forced to do so by NPGMC or something.

what i hate giving up about NERO is that i can make a comp CD and then use their cover design software without having to type in all the info. i really don't need all the video and dvd crap.


That's true fpr me too. And gioven the current state of releases, I ain't getting much use out of my Windows Media Player.

Christian Zombie Vampires

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Reply #13 posted 06/05/06 9:06am

Anx

i think nero 7 is stand-alone software, not an upgrade, though it can be installed as an upgrade if you already have nero 6.

i THINK.

i ordered my nero 7 online and downloaded it, but i still have my license number, so it shouldn't be an issue if i uninstall and then re-download...i hope.

thanks for the info about mixmeister - sounds fun, but not my cuppa tea just now.
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Reply #14 posted 06/05/06 9:06am

ThreadBare

I've had serious problems with Roxio. I can't even burn CDs at the moment. sad
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Reply #15 posted 06/05/06 9:11am

Anx

ThreadBare said:

I've had serious problems with Roxio. I can't even burn CDs at the moment. sad


my nero will burn half a CD and then it will poop out. SO frustrating.
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Reply #16 posted 06/05/06 9:13am

ThreadBare

Anx said:

ThreadBare said:

I've had serious problems with Roxio. I can't even burn CDs at the moment. sad


my nero will burn half a CD and then it will poop out. SO frustrating.


I've had the same happen, repeatedly, with different versions of that Roxio program. Get to the 10th or so track, and it ejects the destination disc, complaining of lack of space.

fit
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Reply #17 posted 06/05/06 9:14am

Tom

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You might want to check the forums on both the Roxio and Nero sites, to see the users comments, and if there's any issues with the software right now before you drop any more money on either. I was on Nero's forums last week when I read about the mp3 codec and Nero Vision issues in their latest release.
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Reply #18 posted 06/05/06 9:15am

Anx

ThreadBare said:

Anx said:



my nero will burn half a CD and then it will poop out. SO frustrating.


I've had the same happen, repeatedly, with different versions of that Roxio program. Get to the 10th or so track, and it ejects the destination disc, complaining of lack of space.

fit


i've thought about giving one of my half-burnt cds to a friend and saying it's me being arty and deconstructionist. redface
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Reply #19 posted 06/05/06 9:17am

Tom

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ThreadBare said:

Anx said:



my nero will burn half a CD and then it will poop out. SO frustrating.


I've had the same happen, repeatedly, with different versions of that Roxio program. Get to the 10th or so track, and it ejects the destination disc, complaining of lack of space.

fit


Are you keeping an eye on the status bar at the bottom to make sure you aren't exceeding the space limit of the disc when you're adding tracks? I believe in Nero, it will go up to like 800mb, even though many CDs only hold about 650-700mb. When you get too close to the limit of your disc, and go to burn it, sometimes it will require you to use the "Disc At Once" option rather than multisession.
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Reply #20 posted 06/05/06 9:31am

superspaceboy

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There could also be patches or updates for your "new" computer. I have an iMic that worked fine. I did a reinstall and it didn't work as well. It was just a glitch..IT worked but some other programs didn't work with it anymore. It was suggested that when I did the reinstall I lost some important updates or patches Windows had downloaded. It was suggestied I look for driver updates.

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Reply #21 posted 06/05/06 9:33am

ThreadBare

Tom said:

ThreadBare said:



I've had the same happen, repeatedly, with different versions of that Roxio program. Get to the 10th or so track, and it ejects the destination disc, complaining of lack of space.

fit


Are you keeping an eye on the status bar at the bottom to make sure you aren't exceeding the space limit of the disc when you're adding tracks? I believe in Nero, it will go up to like 800mb, even though many CDs only hold about 650-700mb. When you get too close to the limit of your disc, and go to burn it, sometimes it will require you to use the "Disc At Once" option rather than multisession.



Yeah, I tend to push the limits, getting to less than 30 seconds of space. When it gets too close or goes over, I combine tracks to still fall within the confines.

It's a bug, I'm sure of it.
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Reply #22 posted 06/05/06 9:35am

missfee

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my nero works fine for me. i know my ex-beau had upgraded it for me back when we together so i can't tell you how he did that...
I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince.
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Reply #23 posted 06/05/06 9:43am

NorthernLad

I love Roxio EZ CD Creator. I use it all the time. The only problem I have is that when I try to balance WAV files, it ends up with electronic bits of static and clicks, so I end up manually balancing them.

I have yet to find a good WAV balancer software that doesn't give me problems. I found free software to balance MP3 files that works wonders, but I prefer to make mixed CD with WAV files because of the better sound quality.
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