Tooka while didnt it?

I was watching oprah and she had Pink as a guest. The subject was how America's women are dumbening themselves for men's sexual habitats.

Its just sad Amerika, we just saaad.

are we really?


really?


I don't think so.

Oprah said women are 'dumbening' themselves?

Siguourney Weaver

CarrieMpls said:

yes. Y does their have to be songs like "Stupid Girls" then? Why does their have to be mass mass commercials of "Girls Gone Wild"?

Fauxie said:

no the girls on there said when they are together they act like they are kinda dumb when trying to approach cute guys.

paisleypark4 said:

I don't know that song. And yeah, I don't know any girls who would do a Girls Gone Wild video.

ok, maybe only a few.

Fauxie said:

Dana Reeve

susan sarandon was the very first to come to mind.

iman seems like a lovely lady.

june carter cash was a wonderful person.

can't think of any YOUNG positive women celebs, though.

Posthumous said:

How about Tina Fey? I like her lots. She's not uber-celebrity though...

Janeane Garafolo
Margaret Cho
Madonna (in a lot of ways...)

I don't know who the young kids are looking up to these days, though, I suppose.

Audrey Hepburn was a lovely, lovely woman.

Of course, you're looking for modern examples...

Janeane Garafolo

Janeane Garafolo

Janeane Garafolo

Janeane Garafolo

CarrieMpls said:

i started responding to this, and my comments were so bitchy that even *I* had to myself.

i think all three have put out positive messages in their work, definitely.

Posthumous said:

ok, I can hear what those might have been already.


But seriously, how many 'celebrity' role models do we have really, male or female??

Janeane Garafolo

Jodie Foster

these days at least, patti smith has an overflowing abundance of positivity. whenever i read an interview with her, i always get a little weepy eyed at how warm'n'fuzzy she gets.

Olivia Newton-John, major points for her work in the fight against breast cancer and, also, her work on environment related issues.

grace jones
angela bassett
angelina jolie
robin givens
j-lo
nia long
julia roberts
jodie foster
jessica tandy
kate winslet
hmmm can't remember anything else....

missfee said:

great list... i'll add...


sandra bullock
jennifer aniston
jennifer lopez
meg ryan
halle berry

angela bassett

tracy chapman

meshell ndegeocello

Juliette Binoche

Emma Thompson

Susan Sarandon

Ani DiFranco

Paula Cole

ThreadBare said:

Excellent choice!

right off the top of my head? here we go...

madonna
oprah
jennifer anniston
nicole kidman
gwyneth paltrow (though, personally i can't deal with her)
tyra banks
martha stewart (yes, martha stewart)
barbara walters
katie couric


i think there's a bunch out there; i could go on for a while. if you want my honest opinion, i think oprah would like to pretend there are few positive female celebs because SHE wants to be seen as an anomaly.

sallysassalot said:

But do u think these lil kids growin up are gonna pay any atention to them? Maybe Tyra & Maddy of course but....its the glorification of the dumbness of celeb's (i.e. Paris / Anna Nicole / Britney n them..) that gets all the attention.


Put Queen Latifah on my list
"ooooh ladies first...ladies first.."
[Edited 4/11/06 21:55pm]

I feel so strongly about making sure that this woman was added to the list that I just spent about an hour finding her story.

Which is amazing because her testimony just happened last week.

Link to Gabrielle Union's Rape Nightmare


http://et.tv.yahoo.com/ce...ies/14391/



Wanted to make sure I spelled her name correctly edit...
[Edited 4/11/06 22:00pm]

paisleypark4 said:

i disagree because i think the parises, the britneys, the anna nicoles, they're trends and they're forgotten or, worse, enjoyed solely for the purpose of laughing at them. the difference is the in the word "respect." nobody respects paris hilton (and little kids who do will be sure to outgrow that, lol).