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Reply #30 posted 01/16/06 4:46am

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notoriousj said:


Klein, the Saint Louis University psychiatrist, said it would be great to have something besides sleep aids, antidepressants and counseling to offer traumatized people, but she remains skeptical about how much long-term good propranolol can do.


There is potentially something else that could help treat PTSD besides sleep aids, antidepressants, counseling, and propranolol:

3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, also known as MDMA, also known as Ecstasy

Studies are ongoing both here in the U.S. (with approval from both the FDA and DEA) and elsewhere. The organization funding these studies hopes to make MDMA available as a prescription medication.

One problem, though, is that the major pharmaceutical companies probably wouldn't be too interested in making prescription Ecstasy. Putting aside the potential public relations nightmare, they can't make much money from it, because MDMA was patented back in 1914 by Merck, and that patent expired quite some time ago.

Perhaps the way they'd get around that problem would be to "dual-schedule" MDMA, which is what they did with Xyrem (GHB), another drug that has been around too long for patent protection. The feds effectively gave one pharmaceutical company a monopoly by classifying their GHB (sold as "Xyrem") as a legal prescription medication, while all other GHB remains illegal. Also, it's available through only one mail-order pharmacy, so you can't buy GHB at your local Walgreens.
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Reply #31 posted 01/16/06 5:22am

Teacher

There is one person that I would erase from my memory and I would be better off for it. I've written about him on this site before, my near escape from being abused in all kinds of ways. It's still bothering me a LOT and I spend way too much time thinking about it so it would be great to just have it wiped. sigh
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Reply #32 posted 01/16/06 5:56am

EskomoKisses

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yeah...but my best friend married the jerk.


Twice.
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Reply #33 posted 01/16/06 11:11am

Muse2NOPharaoh

EskomoKisses said:

yeah...but my best friend married the jerk.


Twice.



lol I still can't believe that Gretch!

hug Hope you are welll.....
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Reply #34 posted 01/16/06 11:28am

mdiver

Fuck yeah! But don't ask boxed
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Reply #35 posted 01/16/06 11:37am

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nakedpianoplayer said:

you know, get rid of them all together ????


the thing is to never let them in your life to begin with.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #36 posted 01/16/06 12:21pm

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

EskomoKisses said:

yeah...but my best friend married the jerk.


Twice.



lol I still can't believe that Gretch!

hug Hope you are welll.....


I'm doing great smile Tummy is getting bigger daily, but I'm srinking everwhere else lol

hug hope you're doing good as well!
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Reply #37 posted 01/16/06 12:46pm

Byron

Wishign people to be "erased" from your memory seems the same as not wanting to own up to your own decisions and/or issues...other than in extreme circumstances, everyone who comes into our lives comes invited and with the door wide open. Nobody's ever forced upon us. It doesn't mean everyone we let in should be allowed to stay in, of course...

Far better and healthier to learn about yourself from every experience, good or not-so-good, and to grow stronger and wiser because of it. Use it to understand why we made the desisions we made...that way, you erase the negative feelings connected with that person's temporary existence within your life instead of spending time on the wishful thinking of having them erased from it. As the saying goes, a mistake is only a mistake if you refuse to learn from it...and saying "I wish this person never existed and that I could just pretend none of this ever happened" seems like the epidome of refusing to learn from a mistake.
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Reply #38 posted 01/16/06 2:08pm

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Byron said:

Wishign people to be "erased" from your memory seems the same as not wanting to own up to your own decisions and/or issues...other than in extreme circumstances, everyone who comes into our lives comes invited and with the door wide open. Nobody's ever forced upon us. It doesn't mean everyone we let in should be allowed to stay in, of course...

Far better and healthier to learn about yourself from every experience, good or not-so-good, and to grow stronger and wiser because of it. Use it to understand why we made the desisions we made...that way, you erase the negative feelings connected with that person's temporary existence within your life instead of spending time on the wishful thinking of having them erased from it. As the saying goes, a mistake is only a mistake if you refuse to learn from it...and saying "I wish this person never existed and that I could just pretend none of this ever happened" seems like the epidome of refusing to learn from a mistake.


so very, very true...I just wish other people would also learn from MY mistakes ya know? lol
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Reply #39 posted 01/16/06 2:11pm

Byron

EskomoKisses said:

Byron said:

Wishign people to be "erased" from your memory seems the same as not wanting to own up to your own decisions and/or issues...other than in extreme circumstances, everyone who comes into our lives comes invited and with the door wide open. Nobody's ever forced upon us. It doesn't mean everyone we let in should be allowed to stay in, of course...

Far better and healthier to learn about yourself from every experience, good or not-so-good, and to grow stronger and wiser because of it. Use it to understand why we made the desisions we made...that way, you erase the negative feelings connected with that person's temporary existence within your life instead of spending time on the wishful thinking of having them erased from it. As the saying goes, a mistake is only a mistake if you refuse to learn from it...and saying "I wish this person never existed and that I could just pretend none of this ever happened" seems like the epidome of refusing to learn from a mistake.


so very, very true...I just wish other people would also learn from MY mistakes ya know? lol

Try to learn from the mistakes of others...because you can't possibly make them all yourself.
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Reply #40 posted 01/16/06 2:18pm

Zelaira

Trust me I ALREADY HAVE ERASED THEM..... I Don't Bother with People who have BUTTED HEADS with MOI. I Don't Stay with NEGATIVITY..... I QUICKLY ERASEThe Past....Not a Big Deal , ya Move on and Meet NEW FRIENDS..
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Reply #41 posted 01/16/06 2:53pm

TMPletz



Okay, okay...I guess only the Trekkies would understand this reference. geek

lol
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Reply #42 posted 01/16/06 9:22pm

notoriousj

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notoriousj said:


Klein, the Saint Louis University psychiatrist, said it would be great to have something besides sleep aids, antidepressants and counseling to offer traumatized people, but she remains skeptical about how much long-term good propranolol can do.


There is potentially something else that could help treat PTSD besides sleep aids, antidepressants, counseling, and propranolol:

3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine, also known as MDMA, also known as Ecstasy

Studies are ongoing both here in the U.S. (with approval from both the FDA and DEA) and elsewhere. The organization funding these studies hopes to make MDMA available as a prescription medication.

One problem, though, is that the major pharmaceutical companies probably wouldn't be too interested in making prescription Ecstasy. Putting aside the potential public relations nightmare, they can't make much money from it, because MDMA was patented back in 1914 by Merck, and that patent expired quite some time ago.

Perhaps the way they'd get around that problem would be to "dual-schedule" MDMA, which is what they did with Xyrem (GHB), another drug that has been around too long for patent protection. The feds effectively gave one pharmaceutical company a monopoly by classifying their GHB (sold as "Xyrem") as a legal prescription medication, while all other GHB remains illegal. Also, it's available through only one mail-order pharmacy, so you can't buy GHB at your local Walgreens.




Give it up for MDMA party wink I would marry you ass if could...you my bro and always will be kiss2 Seattle is going to hell when I get there in Feb. biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 01/17/06 5:40am

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TMPletz said:



Okay, okay...I guess only the Trekkies would understand this reference. geek

lol


LMAO disbelief
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