you know, get rid of them all together ????


there surely are a few that i would love to forget


can one of them be my son's father and i still get to keep my son ????


hes an alright guy i suppose, just stupid as fuck he recently had his 5th child at the age of 42 and has explained to me that since he screwed up so badly with the other 4, he just wants to make this one right


what a fucking dumbass

the siggy goes nice with this topic.

yes yes YES. I'd give anything to be able to forget one person.

"Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" is one of my favorite movies and it deals with this very subject.


The answer, by the way, is ... sometimes.

"Take me back in time
Maybe I can forget
Turn a different corner
And we never would have met..."

--George Michael

I have wanted to. But now I realize that had it not been for them, I would not be as good at avoiding (and getting over) jackasses as I am now.

The idea that you can make more children to make up for the damaged relationships with the ones that exsist is stupid. Hopefully he does do right by this child that didn't ask to be his redeemer.

Oh yes they are a few....

Nope. Something I learned from all those in my memory. And it has served me good to this day whether it was a happy event or not so happy even. And even if it was a bad memory, one I am not fond of, I learned something valuable from it/them.

the ones i gave free ass to and didn't get anything in return

DynamicSavior said:

nakedpianoplayer said:

hey, you gotta start somewhere. it's truly tragic that he couldn't be there with the other four children but it does seem like he's seen the error of he ways.

NO ... every person and every event has added to the creation of my life as i know it now...

and i would not want to change a thing about it !!

Hell yea I got some bitch ass muthafuckas I wanna erase from my life But everything happens for a reason, so those bitch ass tricks passed through to show me something & be part of a greater lesson. Some of these lessons I have yet to figure out but it's all part of the journey. And wherever they are now, they STILL some bitch ass tricks

Case said:

i LOVEd that movie however...

each relationship and experience i've encountered thus far in my life has brought me 2 my now... and i love my now tho it is far from perfect. good thing i'm not seeking perfect what fun would that be?

i look at the world in a way in which there is no bad nor good just lessons learned...

so in short lol my answer is no... i even want 2 keep the psychozzzz that have stalked me

sometimes
but they're the people closest to me...


i can't live with him
can't live without them.

Mach said:

MACH...wouldnt some things have been better WITHOUT the hassle???

CalhounSq said:

CalSq


some funny shit

Awwwww I hear you but I can only say as others here have that each experience made me the person I am now....and though I am not always thankful for the experience

I am thankful that I stopped my self serving moves in their inception and am proud to say that I have not used other humans to further myself or my knowledge. I did the hardest thing for me (which wasn't my idea but one I heard from God in prayer..) To just stand down... take a self imposed time out and see what comes of it... 2 years later in review.... (2 years this January infact...) God was right....though I have only touched the edge of the lesson I have incurred I am certain I have learned so much more then I yet know. I believe we are our brothers keeper and we are responsible for what we do to others. I have my faults as does everyone.... I am more then willing to admit to them and work on them..Do no harm is the path for me... One can't totally exhonerate themselves if they interact but they can minimize.....












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shayblackfeather said:

No ..

each thing and all it is/was pain in the ass or joy has made my life what it is today... to change one thing, even slightly ... would change the course of my life... and i would not be what or where i am today

Yes, quite a few people for me, unfortunately.

TheCatWoman said:

Well said,,,dont we "learn" from our mistakes?

I guess not...live and learn...
Although I wish I trusted my instincts more and did some things differently ...

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'Trauma Pill' Could Make Memories Less Painful
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP



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Researchers say the pill would reduce the effect of stress hormones that etch unpleasant events into memory.

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(Jan. 14) - Suppose you could erase bad memories from your mind. Suppose, as in a recent movie, your brain could be wiped clean of sad and traumatic thoughts.

That is science fiction. But real-world scientists are working on the next best thing. They have been testing a pill that, when given after a traumatic event like rape, may make the resulting memories less painful and intense.

Will it work? It is too soon to say. Still, it is not far-fetched to think that this drug someday might be passed out along with blankets and food at emergency shelters after disasters like the tsunami or Hurricane Katrina.

Psychiatrist Hilary Klein could have offered it to the man she treated at a St. Louis shelter over the Labor Day weekend. He had fled New Orleans and was so distraught over not knowing where his sisters were that others had to tell Klein his story.

"This man could not even give his name, he was in such distress. All he could do was cry," she said.

Such people often develop post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, a problem first recognized in Vietnam War veterans. Only 14 percent to 24 percent of trauma victims experience long-term PTSD, but sufferers have flashbacks and physical symptoms that make them feel as if they are reliving the trauma years after it occurred.

Scientists think it happens because the brain goes haywire during and right after a strongly emotional event, pouring out stress hormones that help store these memories in a different way than normal ones are preserved.

Taking a drug to tamp down these chemicals might blunt memory formation and prevent PTSD, they theorize.

Some doctors have an even more ambitious goal: trying to cure PTSD. They are deliberately triggering very old bad memories and then giving the pill to deep-six them.

The first study to test this approach on 19 longtime PTSD sufferers has provided early encouraging results, Canadian and Harvard University researchers report.

"We figure we need to test about 10 more people until we've got solid evidence." said Alain Brunet, a psychologist at McGill University in Montreal who is leading the study.

It can't come too soon.

The need for better treatment grows daily as American troops return from Iraq and Afghanistan with wounded minds as well as bodies. One government survey found almost 1 in 6 showing symptoms of mental stress, including many with post-traumatic stress disorder. Disability payments related to the illness cost the government more than $4 billion a year.

The need is even greater in countries ravaged by many years of violence.

"I don't think there's yet in our country a sense of urgency about post-traumatic stress disorder" but there should be, said James McGaugh, director of the Center for the Neurobiology of Learning and Memory at the University of California at Irvine.

He and a colleague, Larry Cahill, did experiments that changed how scientists view memory formation and suggested new ways to modify it.

Memories, painful or sweet, don't form instantly after an event but congeal over time. Like slowly hardening cement, there is a window of opportunity when they are shapable.

During stress, the body pours out adrenaline and other "fight or flight" hormones that help write memories into the "hard drive" of the brain, McGaugh and Cahill showed.

Propranolol can blunt this. It is in a class of drugs called beta blockers and is the one most able to cross the blood-brain barrier and get to where stress hormones are wreaking havoc. It already is widely used to treat high blood pressure and is being tested for stage fright.

Dr. Roger Pitman, a Harvard University psychiatrist, did a pilot study to see whether it could prevent symptoms of PTSD. He gave 10 days of either the drug or dummy pills to accident and rape victims who came to the Massachusetts General Hospital emergency room.

In follow-up visits three months later, the patients listened to tapes describing their traumatic events as researchers measured their heart rates, palm sweating and forehead muscle tension.

The eight who had taken propranolol had fewer stress symptoms than the 14 who received dummy pills, but the differences in the frequency of symptoms were so small they might have occurred by chance - a problem with such tiny experiments.

Still, "this was the first study to show that PTSD could be prevented," McGaugh said, and enough to convince the federal government to fund a larger one that Pitman is doing now.

Meanwhile, another study on assault and accident victims in France confirmed that propranolol might prevent PTSD symptoms.

One of those researchers, Brunet, now has teamed with Pitman on the boldest experiment yet - trying to cure longtime PTSD sufferers.

"We are trying to reopen the window of opportunity to modulate the traumatic memory," Pitman said.

The experiments are being done in Montreal and involve people traumatized as long as 20 or 30 years ago by child abuse, sexual assault or a serious accident.

"It's amazing how a traumatic memory can remain very much alive. It doesn't behave like a regular memory. The memory doesn't decay," Brunet said.

To try to make it decay, researchers ask people to describe the trauma as vividly as they can, bringing on physical symptoms like racing hearts, then give them propranolol to blunt "restorage" of the memory. As much as three months later, the single dose appears to be preventing PTSD symptoms, Brunet said.

Joseph LeDoux, a neuroscience professor at New York University, is enrolling 20 to 30 people in a similar experiment and believes in the approach.

"Each time you retrieve a memory it must be restored," he said. "When you activate a memory in the presence of a drug that prevents the restorage of the memory, the next day the memory is not as accessible."

Not all share his enthusiasm, as McGaugh found when he was asked to brief the President's Council on Bioethics a few years ago.

"They didn't say anything at the time but later they went ballistic on it," he said.

Chairman Leon Kass contended that painful memories serve a purpose and are part of the human experience.

McGaugh says that's preposterous when it comes to trauma like war. If a soldier is physically injured, "you do everything you can to make him whole," but if he says he is upset "they say, 'suck it up - that's the normal thing,"' he complained.

Propranolol couldn't be given to soldiers in battle because it would curb survival instincts.

"They need to be able to run and to fight," Pitman said. "But if you could take them behind the lines for a couple of days, then you could give it to them after a traumatic event," or before they're sent home, he said.

Some critics suggest that rape victims would be less able to testify against attackers if their memories were blunted, or at least that defense attorneys would argue that.

"Medical concerns trump legal concerns. I wouldn't withhold an effective treatment from somebody because of the possibility they may have to go to court a year later and their testimony be challenged. We wouldn't do that in any other area of medicine," Pitman said. "The important thing to know about this drug is it doesn't put a hole in their memory. It doesn't create amnesia."

Practical matters may limit propranolol's usefulness. It must be given within a day or two of trauma to prevent PTSD.

How long any benefits from the drug will last is another issue. McGaugh said some animal research suggests that memory eventually recovers after being squelched for a while by the drug.

Overtreatment also is a concern. Because more than three-quarters of trauma victims don't have long-term problems, most don't need medication.

But LeDoux sees little risk in propranolol.

"It's a pretty harmless drug," he said. "If you could give them one or two pills that could prevent PTSD, that would be a pretty good thing."

Klein, the Saint Louis University psychiatrist, said it would be great to have something besides sleep aids, antidepressants and counseling to offer traumatized people, but she remains skeptical about how much long-term good propranolol can do.

"If there were a pill to reduce the intensity of symptoms, that would be a relief," she said. "But that's a far step from being able to prevent the development of PTSD."

Only more study will tell whether that is truly possible.

notoriousj said:

well i'll be damned

Nope.

CynthiasSocks said:

Not even that syphillus ridden toothless crackhead leprechaun from the cornfield back in '86? That's right bitch. I know ALL about that If you don't want me to tell the whole story, send me some boots. And you know what I mean.

there are a few who have only brought negitive things, i would forget them if i could

paris.

Case said:

I enjoyed the movie, but it didn't seem plausible, for three reasons:

1) The procedure shown in the movie assumes that everyone who receives a postcard to notify them about the memory-erasure will follow the instructions not to remind the patient about the person being erased from memory. (It also assumes that the patient will remember everyone who needs such notification.)

2) Let's assume that I underwent the procedure to erase all memories of my ex-wife. We lived together for four years, so they would have to wipe out a good deal of my memory. What would I remember about that time period after the erasure?

Would I simply be unable to account for anything I did during those four years?

Would the procedure wipe out everything I learned in law school, since my entire legal education falls within the time period? And if so, how would I react to seeing a diploma stating that I was given a law degree in 2002?

Would I remember some things from that time period, but have some significant gaps in my memory? And wouldn't those gaps likely result in me doing some research to find out what I'd forgotten? (See #3 below.)

3) It would be impossible to destroy everything related our relationship. For example, both our marriage and divorce are matters of public record; the court isn't going to destroy or seal the file of our divorce case. Also, our marriage was mentioned in her college's alumni magazine; I can't obtain every single copy of that issue and have it destroyed.

TheCatWoman said:

If you share a part of your life with someone who disappoints you; by being a dumbass, or an unreliable cheater etc... you are in my opinion just as responsible for this mistake as this other person, as long as you weren't forced to marry or something.

So I've made my mistakes, but I don't want to erase them. They make me remember what I don't want.