they ruined Myers' look after Halloween 2 by not using the painted William Shatner mask, instead he looks like Data from Star Trek.... did they start using a Data mask? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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RipHer2Shreds said: JediMaster said: Unfortunately, too many people judge this flick by the lame sequels. To me, its a sin to compare this one to The Curse of Michael Myers. Actually, the second film is decent (not great), the fourth is creepy, and H2O ain't bad. All the rest are craptacular. It pisses me off that 5 and 6 had to be so bad, as 4 really set up a good storyarc that could have really been something. That's what I'm sayin'! And The Curse of Michael Myers is the worst of the worst! Even the so-called producer's cut that - by some fan standards - is supposedly better than the theatrical cut is hokey at best. I never bothered with the Producer's cut. I had a hard enough time sitting through the regular version! So sad that it was Pleasance's last film. Almost as abysmal was Halloween: Resurrection. H20 had wrapped things up nicely, and there just didn't need to be another movie. Oh, and killing off Laurie Strode? Bad move! Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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ufoclub said: they ruined Myers' look after Halloween 2 by not using the painted William Shatner mask, instead he looks like Data from Star Trek.... did they start using a Data mask?
As I understand it, the original mask was lost, and they had to make a new one from scratch (and no one could find a Shatner mask). Big chunks of H20 were re-filmed because the director was unhappy with the mask (check out the trailer to see the first mask they used), and he at least made an attempt to get it closer to the original. Of course, some have pointed out that Myers would have to have gotten a new mask after part 2, since it burned up (I believe Halloween 4 actually showed him stealing a new mask. Help me out, RipHer2Shreds. I haven't watched that one in many years). Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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JediMaster said: ufoclub said: they ruined Myers' look after Halloween 2 by not using the painted William Shatner mask, instead he looks like Data from Star Trek.... did they start using a Data mask?
As I understand it, the original mask was lost, and they had to make a new one from scratch (and no one could find a Shatner mask). Big chunks of H20 were re-filmed because the director was unhappy with the mask (check out the trailer to see the first mask they used), and he at least made an attempt to get it closer to the original. Of course, some have pointed out that Myers would have to have gotten a new mask after part 2, since it burned up (I believe Halloween 4 actually showed him stealing a new mask. Help me out, RipHer2Shreds. I haven't watched that one in many years). Lord, I know way too much about this. Yes, he took a new one in H4. And they no longer have the original mold for the William Shatner mask. It was gone before they even filmed Halloween II. That's why all the masks since then haven't looked as good. H20 actually used a CGI mask in at least one scene, and it's blatantly obvious. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: JediMaster said: As I understand it, the original mask was lost, and they had to make a new one from scratch (and no one could find a Shatner mask). Big chunks of H20 were re-filmed because the director was unhappy with the mask (check out the trailer to see the first mask they used), and he at least made an attempt to get it closer to the original. Of course, some have pointed out that Myers would have to have gotten a new mask after part 2, since it burned up (I believe Halloween 4 actually showed him stealing a new mask. Help me out, RipHer2Shreds. I haven't watched that one in many years). Lord, I know way too much about this. Yes, he took a new one in H4. And they no longer have the original mold for the William Shatner mask. It was gone before they even filmed Halloween II. That's why all the masks since then haven't looked as good. H20 actually used a CGI mask in at least one scene, and it's blatantly obvious. Really? Wow, I've never noticed that (although, I'll be looking for it now, so it will probably drive me crazy everytime I watch it from here on out). Has anyone ever tried to do a reconciliation of IV, V and CoMM with the mythology of H20 and Resurrection? Me, I just ignore all of them but the first, II and H20, and watch IV as a cool alternative direction for the series (if it weren't for IV tying into V and CoMM, I would view it as canon as well). Just curious. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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okay, I glanced away form my tv to surf the web, and I missed out on the ending of the Halloween with the little girl in the police station at the end and some mysterious illuminati cloaked figure going in and shooting with a gun.... what happened at the very end? My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: okay, I glanced away form my tv to surf the web, and I missed out on the ending of the Halloween with the little girl in the police station at the end and some mysterious illuminati cloaked figure going in and shooting with a gun.... what happened at the very end?
That was Halloween 5. The dude came in, shot up the police station, and apparently set Myers free (as his cell door was seen hanging open). That was it. The movie ended after that, and the lame-ass follow-up really did a crappy job of resolving these dangling plot-lines. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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this is such a good movie. you don't need to spend millions on special effects to keep your audience scared. (remember THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT ? wasn't that just scaaaaary)
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JediMaster said: RipHer2Shreds said: Lord, I know way too much about this. Yes, he took a new one in H4. And they no longer have the original mold for the William Shatner mask. It was gone before they even filmed Halloween II. That's why all the masks since then haven't looked as good. H20 actually used a CGI mask in at least one scene, and it's blatantly obvious. Really? Wow, I've never noticed that (although, I'll be looking for it now, so it will probably drive me crazy everytime I watch it from here on out). Has anyone ever tried to do a reconciliation of IV, V and CoMM with the mythology of H20 and Resurrection? Me, I just ignore all of them but the first, II and H20, and watch IV as a cool alternative direction for the series (if it weren't for IV tying into V and CoMM, I would view it as canon as well). Just curious. There are fans that have tried to tie them together, but I haven't the time or interest in trying to follow their logic. I'm the same as you - the original, part 2 and H20 are all the storyline I need. But if you're interested in seeing the producer's cut of 6, send me a note. It's entertaining. Maybe not in the ways they intended it to be, but it is. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: JediMaster said: Really? Wow, I've never noticed that (although, I'll be looking for it now, so it will probably drive me crazy everytime I watch it from here on out). Has anyone ever tried to do a reconciliation of IV, V and CoMM with the mythology of H20 and Resurrection? Me, I just ignore all of them but the first, II and H20, and watch IV as a cool alternative direction for the series (if it weren't for IV tying into V and CoMM, I would view it as canon as well). Just curious. There are fans that have tried to tie them together, but I haven't the time or interest in trying to follow their logic. I'm the same as you - the original, part 2 and H20 are all the storyline I need. But if you're interested in seeing the producer's cut of 6, send me a note. It's entertaining. Maybe not in the ways they intended it to be, but it is. Cool. I was just curious about that. I don't really care about it, but I thought it would be amusing to see how people get creative with plot holes and what-not. Now, the producer's cut of 6? A part of me is damned curious, but another part of me is afraid of the pain I experienced when watching the theatrical cut. I just remember thinking it was SOOOOO obvious that Donald had died during the filming, and they were trying desperately to make the footage they had fit in with a hastily rewritten script. Is it worth watching, or will it just make me relive the pain??? Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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JediMaster said: RipHer2Shreds said: There are fans that have tried to tie them together, but I haven't the time or interest in trying to follow their logic. I'm the same as you - the original, part 2 and H20 are all the storyline I need. But if you're interested in seeing the producer's cut of 6, send me a note. It's entertaining. Maybe not in the ways they intended it to be, but it is. Cool. I was just curious about that. I don't really care about it, but I thought it would be amusing to see how people get creative with plot holes and what-not. Now, the producer's cut of 6? A part of me is damned curious, but another part of me is afraid of the pain I experienced when watching the theatrical cut. I just remember thinking it was SOOOOO obvious that Donald had died during the filming, and they were trying desperately to make the footage they had fit in with a hastily rewritten script. Is it worth watching, or will it just make me relive the pain??? The storyline is entirely different. They re-worked it so much for the theatrical release, that it's almost a different film. There's some really corny shit (they try to stop Michael with a pile of runes which just makes me laugh so friggin' hard!), but it's amusing. Whether or not you enjoy it depends on how much you enjoy watching train wrecks. I can easily send it out to you if you're curious. | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: JediMaster said: Cool. I was just curious about that. I don't really care about it, but I thought it would be amusing to see how people get creative with plot holes and what-not. Now, the producer's cut of 6? A part of me is damned curious, but another part of me is afraid of the pain I experienced when watching the theatrical cut. I just remember thinking it was SOOOOO obvious that Donald had died during the filming, and they were trying desperately to make the footage they had fit in with a hastily rewritten script. Is it worth watching, or will it just make me relive the pain??? The storyline is entirely different. They re-worked it so much for the theatrical release, that it's almost a different film. There's some really corny shit (they try to stop Michael with a pile of runes which just makes me laugh so friggin' hard!), but it's amusing. Whether or not you enjoy it depends on how much you enjoy watching train wrecks. I can easily send it out to you if you're curious. Yeah, I'm definitely curious! Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: The first movie to ever really scare me remains to this day one of my very favorite movies - Halloween. John Carpenter's second feature film became an instant classic that has since, sadly, been lumped into the same category as the inferior and innumerable imitators that have followed it (including a slew of its own bad sequels).
Cinematographer Dean Cundey would later go on to work with Steven Spielberg and garner an Oscar nomination. His work behind the lens in Halloween is essential to its success; the equal use of both foreground and background imagery was crucial to create suspense as well as making Spring in southern California look as close to Midwest autumn as possible. I've geeked out enough about this one (and believe me, I could go on). The last three images were filmed exclusively for the 1981 NBC broadcast of Halloween. After editing the film to make it safe for network televsion, the Peacock asked John Carpenter (who was already on hand for the filming of Halloween II) if he would film an extra 12 minutes of scenes to pad the trimmed running time. With the help of the original cast members, he filmed three more scenes to be included in the television cut. I like how his mask used to just appear out of nowhere like that. oh yeah....what ever happened to Jamie's Baby? She would've been Micheal's only motivation to kill. A while back I heard a rumored storyline that involved Dr. Loomis's son in Halloween 9. I haven't heard anything since, so I don't think it's gonna happen, but you know horror movies... anything's possible and after the first two movies, nothin ever makes any sense oops...wrong pic [Edited 11/1/05 13:02pm] looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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Christopher said: RipHer2Shreds said: i dunno why but this scene always scared me the most ...after he was pushed and michael shows up. "The Boogie Man's coming" "Leave me alone!" looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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AnckSuNamun said: RipHer2Shreds said: The first movie to ever really scare me remains to this day one of my very favorite movies - Halloween. John Carpenter's second feature film became an instant classic that has since, sadly, been lumped into the same category as the inferior and innumerable imitators that have followed it (including a slew of its own bad sequels).
Cinematographer Dean Cundey would later go on to work with Steven Spielberg and garner an Oscar nomination. His work behind the lens in Halloween is essential to its success; the equal use of both foreground and background imagery was crucial to create suspense as well as making Spring in southern California look as close to Midwest autumn as possible. I've geeked out enough about this one (and believe me, I could go on). The last three images were filmed exclusively for the 1981 NBC broadcast of Halloween. After editing the film to make it safe for network televsion, the Peacock asked John Carpenter (who was already on hand for the filming of Halloween II) if he would film an extra 12 minutes of scenes to pad the trimmed running time. With the help of the original cast members, he filmed three more scenes to be included in the television cut. I like how his mask used to just appear out of nowhere like that. oh yeah....what ever happened to Jamie's Baby? She would've been Micheal's only motivation to kill. A while back I heard a rumored storyline that involved Dr. Loomis's son in Halloween 9. I haven't heard anything since, so I don't think it's gonna happen, but you know horror movies... anything's possible and after the first two movies, nothin ever makes any sense I remember hearing about that. It sounded horrible! Hope they leave that one alone. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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dawntreader said: this is such a good movie. you don't need to spend millions on special effects to keep your audience scared. (remember THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT ? wasn't that just scaaaaary)
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vainandy said: they really messed MJ up in that movie looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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AnckSuNamun said: Christopher said: i dunno why but this scene always scared me the most ...after he was pushed and michael shows up. "The Boogie Man's coming" "Leave me alone!" | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: minneapolisgenius said: Love it of course. They showed Halloween II the other night here in Holland, but I was too tired to stay up for it. I did watch the uncut Exorcist though that came on before it.
Oh and HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!!! Yeah, I even like that crappy slow ass sequel! Jamie Lee's wearing a really bad wig in it. It took place the same night as the original, but they had to use a wig because Jamie Lee's hairstyle had changed since then - she'd had it feathered I actually like Halloween 2 more than the original, but both are contenders for my top 10 movies of all time. We just watched these last night. Oh, and Prom Night is SOOOOO Halloween 1.5. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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I like Halloween 3 too, even though it's crap and has nothing to do with Michael Myers. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: I like Halloween 3 too, even though it's crap and has nothing to do with Michael Myers.
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Moonbeam said: I like Halloween 3 too, even though it's crap and has nothing to do with Michael Myers.
Blasphemy! John Carpenter is turning over in his grave! Michael Myers will find you, slowly walk up behind you and stab you multple times. The only semi-decent thing about that movie was the catchy "Silver Shamrock" song. But even that gets old when you find yourself humming it days or in my case years after watching that damned movie! I AM BEATLOAF
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Christopher said: Moonbeam said: I like Halloween 3 too, even though it's crap and has nothing to do with Michael Myers.
i loved the music on that one. 8 more days 'til Halloween! Halloween! Halloween! Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Christopher said: i loved the music on that one. 8 more days 'til Halloween! Halloween! Halloween! 8 more days till Halloween...SILVER SHAMROCK! I AM BEATLOAF
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Moonbeam said: Christopher said: i loved the music on that one. 8 more days 'til Halloween! Halloween! Halloween! im gonna go download that! | |
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Terilicious said: Moonbeam said: 8 more days 'til Halloween! Halloween! Halloween! 8 more days till Halloween...SILVER SHAMROCK! You know you love it. Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you! | |
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Moonbeam said: Terilicious said: 8 more days till Halloween...SILVER SHAMROCK! You know you love it. You know, I've only seen that movie once about 20 years ago and that damned song is STILL in my head! WTF??? Who the hell wrote that thing? I AM BEATLOAF
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Terilicious said: Moonbeam said: I like Halloween 3 too, even though it's crap and has nothing to do with Michael Myers.
Blasphemy! John Carpenter is turning over in his grave! Michael Myers will find you, slowly walk up behind you and stab you multple times. The only semi-decent thing about that movie was the catchy "Silver Shamrock" song. But even that gets old when you find yourself humming it days or in my case years after watching that damned movie! uhm, you do know John Carpenter is alive and well, don't you? If memory serves me right, Carpenter had nothing to do with most of the Halloweens. He only did the first and second ones, and was a co-writer of H20 (along with Debra Hill, who wrote the first Halloween). Carpenter didn't want to go on with Halloweens 3-6, but was forced to by the rest of the producers. I remember Moustapha Akkad as being especially pushy - can someone say nay or yay on this one? RipHer2Shreds, if you haven't already, check out Robert C Cumbow's book, Order in the Universe. It's all about Carpenter's films and is quite a good read! I mean, like, where is the sun? | |
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Natsume said: Terilicious said: Blasphemy! John Carpenter is turning over in his grave! Michael Myers will find you, slowly walk up behind you and stab you multple times. The only semi-decent thing about that movie was the catchy "Silver Shamrock" song. But even that gets old when you find yourself humming it days or in my case years after watching that damned movie! uhm, you do know John Carpenter is alive and well, don't you? If memory serves me right, Carpenter had nothing to do with most of the Halloweens. He only did the first and second ones, and was a co-writer of H20 (along with Debra Hill, who wrote the first Halloween). Carpenter didn't want to go on with Halloweens 3-6, but was forced to by the rest of the producers. I remember Moustapha Akkad as being especially pushy - can someone say nay or yay on this one? RipHer2Shreds, if you haven't already, check out Robert C Cumbow's book, Order in the Universe. It's all about Carpenter's films and is quite a good read! Actually, I didn't know if Carpenter was alive or not, nor how well he may be, but surely he would croak and then turn over in his grave if he knew that Halloween 3 was considered a "good" movie by anyone! Yes, Carpenter had very little if anything to do with the Halloween movies other than 1,2 and H2O. I AM BEATLOAF
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Terilicious said: Natsume said: uhm, you do know John Carpenter is alive and well, don't you? If memory serves me right, Carpenter had nothing to do with most of the Halloweens. He only did the first and second ones, and was a co-writer of H20 (along with Debra Hill, who wrote the first Halloween). Carpenter didn't want to go on with Halloweens 3-6, but was forced to by the rest of the producers. I remember Moustapha Akkad as being especially pushy - can someone say nay or yay on this one? RipHer2Shreds, if you haven't already, check out Robert C Cumbow's book, Order in the Universe. It's all about Carpenter's films and is quite a good read! Actually, I didn't know if Carpenter was alive or not, nor how well he may be, but surely he would croak and then turn over in his grave if he knew that Halloween 3 was considered a "good" movie by anyone! Yes, Carpenter had very little if anything to do with the Halloween movies other than 1,2 and H2O. Carpenter had nothing to do with H20. He received writing credit (along with the late Debra Hill), because he wrote the original characters that they were based on. They'd asked him to write and/or direct it, but her turned it down. He didn't feel like there was anywhere else to do with the series. And I'm sure he'd be fine if anyone liked Halloween III - he produced it! His original idea for sequels was more along the lines of III. A different film each year - or couple of years - that was Halloween-themed and not necessarily with Michael Myers. | |
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