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Reply #30 posted 10/25/05 10:04am

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unlucky7 said:

I hate that flag. mad

I was watching a video the other day..I think with jessica simpson, and they showed a confederate flag on the roof of the car.


lol that would be the dukes of hazard movie.
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Reply #31 posted 10/25/05 10:16am

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Plain and simply put, it's a symbol of pride for people who live in the past.


By itself, it's a nice looking flag, but the ideologies behind it aren't good.

The only people here in the Bay that display this flag are redneck, wannabe fuckheads who believe there will be a race war someday. disbelief

These are people that I've known personally (my idiot ex boyfriend and my friend's husband), and I tell them how retarded their thinking is every chance I get.
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Reply #32 posted 10/25/05 12:13pm

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You're not alone. I'd want to run anyone with that symbol on their car off the road too nod
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Reply #33 posted 10/25/05 12:45pm

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Shorty said:

AlienX2050 said:



Does it really matter if it involved other issues besides slavery?

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[Edited 10/25/05 9:50am]


yes



So are you saying that if I bought a used carpet and most of it smells like shit, that you should conclude that the carpet smells clean?

The only people who would think that the carpet smells clean are the ones who are used to smelling shit.

eek
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Reply #34 posted 10/25/05 12:58pm

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live and let live. They are really showing the world their ignorance and stupidity. You don't have to do anything. When i go by someone with that flag, i just laugh really hard lol

it really pisses them off.
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Reply #35 posted 10/25/05 1:14pm

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thanks guys.. im glad im not the only one who thinks like this..


and that whole 'pride' thing, thats a bunch of crap !!!!! its just another symbol of racist thinking that unfortunately just WILL NOT DIE disbelief


now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard


















































while running them off the road nana
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Reply #36 posted 10/25/05 1:44pm

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AlienX2050 said:

Shorty said:



yes



So are you saying that if I bought a used carpet and most of it smells like shit, that you should conclude that the carpet smells clean?

The only people who would think that the carpet smells clean are the ones who are used to smelling shit.

eek
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that's not what I'm saying at all... neutral and who the fuck buys a used carpet anyway? that was a suck ass example! razz
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Reply #37 posted 10/25/05 1:46pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

thanks guys.. im glad im not the only one who thinks like this..


and that whole 'pride' thing, thats a bunch of crap !!!!! its just another symbol of racist thinking that unfortunately just WILL NOT DIE disbelief


now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard


















































while running them off the road nana


I see you just wanted people to make you feel better about YOUR hatred..ok. nevamind then. neutral
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Reply #38 posted 10/25/05 1:46pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

thanks guys.. im glad im not the only one who thinks like this..


and that whole 'pride' thing, thats a bunch of crap !!!!! its just another symbol of racist thinking that unfortunately just WILL NOT DIE disbelief


now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard



sometimes pointing and laughing works too
nana

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Reply #39 posted 10/25/05 2:03pm

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Shorty said:

AlienX2050 said:




So are you saying that if I bought a used carpet and most of it smells like shit, that you should conclude that the carpet smells clean?

The only people who would think that the carpet smells clean are the ones who are used to smelling shit.

eek
[Edited 10/25/05 12:45pm]


that's not what I'm saying at all... neutral and who the fuck buys a used carpet anyway? that was a suck ass example! razz



Oh yes they do.

Racism comes in all colors.

Just like religious people...will make up something so you can accept the bullshit.

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Reply #40 posted 10/25/05 6:38pm

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i heart you guys !!!!!


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Reply #41 posted 10/25/05 6:54pm

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So how did all this help your hate inside? What did you learn? What are you taking away from this? What are you going to teach others?
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Reply #42 posted 10/25/05 7:22pm

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bluesbaby said:

So how did all this help your hate inside? What did you learn? What are you taking away from this? What are you going to teach others?

well, i learned that im not crazy to feel the hate that i have inside when i see this image, and that im not alone in this.

i learned the same as the above.

what am i taking away ??? not much, other than that there are still some really fucked up people in the world.

and what do i teach others ??? well, that racism is not a thing of the past, its alive and well.... just hiding in smaller corners sad
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Reply #43 posted 10/25/05 7:38pm

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how do i feel when i see a confederate flag? Disgust. I think about how sorry I feel for the person who is displaying it and really wondering how ignorant they really look for displaying it at all...

it's a symbol of the past, yet people still display it to "glorify" the past and the past meaning slavery, segregation, and the horror that took place many many years ago. And its disappointing to know that it still is happening today, just not as often...but it is still here.

I rarely see black people (myself included) with shackles in the back of their window in their cars or have crosses in their yard to display pride of the past...please, so why are these damn flags still in existence????

Just my opinion of it, and just how i see it. i've read a few responses on here, and some people feel that the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans...but i think thats just an excuse to be free to still show the flag if and whenever they want since its a free country and all....
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Reply #44 posted 10/25/05 8:21pm

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missfee said:

how do i feel when i see a confederate flag? Disgust. I think about how sorry I feel for the person who is displaying it and really wondering how ignorant they really look for displaying it at all...

it's a symbol of the past, yet people still display it to "glorify" the past and the past meaning slavery, segregation, and the horror that took place many many years ago. And its disappointing to know that it still is happening today, just not as often...but it is still here.

I rarely see black people (myself included) with shackles in the back of their window in their cars or have crosses in their yard to display pride of the past...please, so why are these damn flags still in existence????

Just my opinion of it, and just how i see it. i've read a few responses on here, and some people feel that the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans...but i think thats just an excuse to be free to still show the flag if and whenever they want since its a free country and all....


hug beautifully stated hug

thank you.
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Reply #45 posted 10/26/05 4:28am

Mach

" now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard "


sigh


speaking of keeping racism alive and well ...

whats so different with your mindset towards these people or the flag they fly hun ?
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Reply #46 posted 10/26/05 4:52am

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Mach said:

" now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard "


sigh


speaking of keeping racism alive and well ...

whats so different with your mindset towards these people or the flag they fly hun ?

i knew you would ask ..... and im glad you did hug

see, i dont hate white people, that would just be stupid.

but, i have issues with white people who are racist.... the flag is hateful and hurtful, therefore, i dont care WHAT the reason is for flying it... if it brings these emotions out in people, and surely the folks that fly the flag know it does.... i dont understand why they would do that!!!!!

now, thats racism to me.... you know it makes another person feel all these different emotions and makes them terribly uncomfortable, but, they dont care about that, they fly it anyway .....


sigh


its sick.
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Reply #47 posted 10/26/05 5:07am

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nakedpianoplayer said:

Mach said:

" now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard "


sigh


speaking of keeping racism alive and well ...

whats so different with your mindset towards these people or the flag they fly hun ?

i knew you would ask ..... and im glad you did hug

see, i dont hate white people, that would just be stupid.

but, i have issues with white people who are racist.... the flag is hateful and hurtful, therefore, i dont care WHAT the reason is for flying it... if it brings these emotions out in people, and surely the folks that fly the flag know it does.... i dont understand why they would do that!!!!!

now, thats racism to me.... you know it makes another person feel all these different emotions and makes them terribly uncomfortable, but, they dont care about that, they fly it anyway .....


sigh


its sick.



interesting


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Reply #48 posted 10/26/05 6:21am

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missfee said:

how do i feel when i see a confederate flag? Disgust. I think about how sorry I feel for the person who is displaying it and really wondering how ignorant they really look for displaying it at all...

it's a symbol of the past, yet people still display it to "glorify" the past and the past meaning slavery, segregation, and the horror that took place many many years ago. And its disappointing to know that it still is happening today, just not as often...but it is still here.

I rarely see black people (myself included) with shackles in the back of their window in their cars or have crosses in their yard to display pride of the past...please, so why are these damn flags still in existence????

Just my opinion of it, and just how i see it. i've read a few responses on here, and some people feel that the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans...but i think thats just an excuse to be free to still show the flag if and whenever they want since its a free country and all....

Dear Missfee,
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel you are referencing me. If so, I'd like to point out that I NEVER said "the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans." Nor did I say anything remotely close to that. I feel I'm speaking more on a political and historical level rather than an emotional one. An excuse to be free? People don't need and "excuse" to be free....
Some of the comments made on this thread are hilariously ironic. smile
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Reply #49 posted 10/26/05 7:03am

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Mach said:

" now, the next time i see one of those redneck motherfuckers driving down the road with that shit on their car im gonna laugh real hard "


sigh


speaking of keeping racism alive and well ...

whats so different with your mindset towards these people or the flag they fly hun ?


thumbs up!
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Reply #50 posted 10/26/05 7:50am

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Shorty said:

An excuse to be free? People don't need and "excuse" to be free....
Some of the comments made on this thread are hilariously ironic. smile

wow, that first statement is a tough one to chew isnt it ???
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Reply #51 posted 10/26/05 8:00am

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nakedpianoplayer said:

Shorty said:

An excuse to be free? People don't need and "excuse" to be free....
Some of the comments made on this thread are hilariously ironic. smile

wow, that first statement is a tough one to chew isnt it ???


disbelief
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Reply #52 posted 10/26/05 9:25am

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Shorty said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


wow, that first statement is a tough one to chew isnt it ???


disbelief



why the disbelief ?????





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Reply #53 posted 10/26/05 9:35am

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nakedpianoplayer said:

Shorty said:



disbelief



why the disbelief ?????





shrug


because I feel your comment was condescending and that you didn't really want an answer to it.
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Reply #54 posted 10/26/05 12:05pm

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Shorty said:

nakedpianoplayer said:




why the disbelief ?????





shrug


because I feel your comment was condescending and that you didn't really want an answer to it.

i accept that answer... the truth is, i guess that even after the opinions of others, some for both sides, good and bad, i still think its a racist symbol, and when i see it, i feel hatred directed at the person with the flag. im sorry, i dont think my feelings have been swayed one way or the other based on the ideas given here.
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Reply #55 posted 10/26/05 12:09pm

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nothin' to add to the topic but, hugs nakkie
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Reply #56 posted 10/26/05 12:10pm

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EskomoKisses said:

nothin' to add to the topic but, hugs nakkie

i'll take those hugs... and send them right back to ya girl hug


heart ya
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Reply #57 posted 10/26/05 1:30pm

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nakedpianoplayer said:

Shorty said:



because I feel your comment was condescending and that you didn't really want an answer to it.

i accept that answer... the truth is, i guess that even after the opinions of others, some for both sides, good and bad, i still think its a racist symbol, and when i see it, i feel hatred directed at the person with the flag. im sorry, i dont think my feelings have been swayed one way or the other based on the ideas given here.


I don't think you were really looking for anything other than agreement, acceptance and hugs but that's just my observation.
You can feel hatred for anyone you see fit to feel hatred for, that's your right. but I feel your hatred is the same hatred you claim to hate.
I hate no one.
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Reply #58 posted 10/26/05 2:12pm

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Shorty said:

missfee said:

how do i feel when i see a confederate flag? Disgust. I think about how sorry I feel for the person who is displaying it and really wondering how ignorant they really look for displaying it at all...

it's a symbol of the past, yet people still display it to "glorify" the past and the past meaning slavery, segregation, and the horror that took place many many years ago. And its disappointing to know that it still is happening today, just not as often...but it is still here.

I rarely see black people (myself included) with shackles in the back of their window in their cars or have crosses in their yard to display pride of the past...please, so why are these damn flags still in existence????

Just my opinion of it, and just how i see it. i've read a few responses on here, and some people feel that the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans...but i think thats just an excuse to be free to still show the flag if and whenever they want since its a free country and all....

Dear Missfee,
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel you are referencing me. If so, I'd like to point out that I NEVER said "the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans." Nor did I say anything remotely close to that. I feel I'm speaking more on a political and historical level rather than an emotional one. An excuse to be free? People don't need and "excuse" to be free....
Some of the comments made on this thread are hilariously ironic. smile

no no no, i wasn't referencing anyone, just summing up the responses that i had read before i posted mine. if i wanted to reference you directly, then i would have quoted you. And i wasn't saying that being "free" was being used as an excuse, let me break it down for you...people give excuses like "it's a free country, if i want to present the flag then i will.." type of attitude. And its also my opinion, just because you may not agree with it doesn't mean that you have to catergorize it as being "hilariously ironic"..whatever that means... confused
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Reply #59 posted 10/26/05 2:31pm

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missfee said:

Shorty said:


Dear Missfee,
please correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel you are referencing me. If so, I'd like to point out that I NEVER said "the flag has nothing to do with racism or many years of violence, destruction, and mutilation of african americans." Nor did I say anything remotely close to that. I feel I'm speaking more on a political and historical level rather than an emotional one. An excuse to be free? People don't need and "excuse" to be free....
Some of the comments made on this thread are hilariously ironic. smile

no no no, i wasn't referencing anyone, just summing up the responses that i had read before i posted mine. if i wanted to reference you directly, then i would have quoted you. And i wasn't saying that being "free" was being used as an excuse, let me break it down for you...people give excuses like "it's a free country, if i want to present the flag then i will.." type of attitude. And its also my opinion, just because you may not agree with it doesn't mean that you have to catergorize it as being "hilariously ironic"..whatever that means... confused

I felt you were referencing me since I was really the only person with an opposing view..but you said you weren't so..I stand corrected.
thanx for the break down but...that's pretty much what I thought you meant. It is a free country and people should be able to present that flag if they want to...
I should have clarified that I was not referring to your comments as hilariously ironic. that was directed towards all the name calling and degrading remarks made.
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