Dat i talk with 'z' in da wordz i say...and dat i really dont know how 2 string a sentence 2getherz ...can i just say i takez a great deal of inner strength 2 go againzt every frickin rule of writing. ANd yes, sometimez i give myself a from all of da bad grammar- but whatz each day without a challenge ...

THAT...and dat im maybe lil child-like ... it soundz like an insult ...sorry- i but i like 2 call it being 'full of fun' and stuff.

Other than dat i guess er i dont feel dat much misunderstood. I know who i amz...and anyone who talkz 2 me knowz who i am...so it'z all good i reckon!!

jerseykrs said:

Me too!

People think I'm a bitch. I'm just blunt.

Number23 said:

Some people find me amusing.

Let people assume and misunderstand, it makes it more fun, and more to learn from that person..

REDFEATHERS said:

Exactly, especially where sarcasm is concerned. That u're not sure whether something will be taken at face value and offend terribly or not is where the real fun is. Understanding has to be earned, and competence therefore demonstrated. I haven't time to clarify everything for people. Misunderstanding basically equals an F- in my book and a trip to stand in the corner of the org for 10 minutes. If someone understands, we can be friends. It's not the harshest friend making criteria in this place, but it does demand at least half the intelligence of a trained monkey.

This always puzzles me...people saying they are misunderstood, especially people who always have to say "I'm just joking!" or "you don't get me or my sense of humor I'm just bluntly honest."

How many times do you have to be misunderstood by how many different people before you realize it's you!

Fauxie said:

Yes, and I think this thread is uncool.. cos its suggesting ppl should explain themselves.. what is to explain? You either like me or not, I either like ppl or not. If I misunderstand its up to me to learn about that person, if I want to or I am interested in doing so. WE cant all understand each other, nor would I want to, it makes life boring and ppl transparent.. I dont like that.

This thread is weak.

2the9s said:

I still dont understand you, and have known you on the org some 3 years now, but I dont WANT to know or understand you, I like you the way you are..

You are my mystery man..
[Edited 7/3/05 18:51pm]

I am whatever you think I am.
If you think I'm cruel and nothing more, fine, that's me.
If you think I'm amusing sometimes, that's me too.
I'm not about trying to convince people of who I am.
I know who I am.
Do you?





(ooooh, that shit sounded like it came right out of a Prince movie....)

A lot of people here always used to think that I had some sort of Org "harem" going...lol...that I was a player collecting women with my special brand of positivity b.s, which they felt was nothing more than memorized phrases from self-help books, no sincerity behind the words at all...nobody would believe that I wasn't carrying on with half the female org population.

That, and that I was a lefthanded asian lesbian. I'm still trying to convince people that one's not true...

2the9s said:

But what's wrong with you people? I mean, I know that my jokes about dying babies, casualties of war, rape, racism, sexism and poverty are funny. You just don't get it.

REDFEATHERS said:

This certainly applies to me, because despite my cynical, sarcastic nature, I always wanted people to recognise that I was genuine despite it all, and worried about being misunderstood. You're absolutely right about this, and there is no point in worrying about it or going out of your way to be understood. Some people see some things in you and others see different things. Some like u, some don't, and we make the same decisions about others. It is what it is.

Fauxie said:

2the9s said:

That's really how I see it too.

2the9s said:

Xactly.

Just as there's no smoke without fire, there's a reason y u r perceived the way u r, Nero.

Can u handle the 'truth' about u?

2the9s said:

See, sorta along the lines of what RED is saying, I think that's a lazy way of approaching it.

If somebody intends to be funny or whatever and is consistently taken for something else, it's bullshit to say that they must just actually be that something else (often something along the lines of "insensitive/dumb/inappropriate/bitch"). Intention matters. Some folks think a little differently from others, and certainly humor is incredibly subjective. Trying to get inside the heads of folks whose internal metronome is funked up in whatever way is part of what makes life grand. Dismissing them in a way that is easy to categorize is to miss much.

tackam, u make a xcellent point.

eye would only add that nspite of 1's ntentions, does there not come a time when 1 must realise that it's 1's own responsibility 2 also understand y 1 is CONsistently b ing perceived n a certain manner?

It's up 2 u 2 manage how u r perceived.
Not the other way around.

love

tackam said:

I was just about to write something very, very similar to this. Thanks for saving me the time and effort.

you are all losers.

TheFrog said:

Anji said:

No, it shouldn't have to be up to you to manage how you're perceived (except maybe that it would be easy to make yourself seem a bit more intelligent by simply ceasing to use princebonics ). To change your behaviour to something that is not you in order to make others see you as being more you doesn't make any sense. You've then abandoned yourself and the perception will inevitably shift even more. Just stick with who you are. If some people just don't get it, then it's ultimately their loss.

PR is a balance between u n them but ultimately it is up 2 u 2 manage how u r perceived.

Sometimes, u do not realise that the way u r b ing perceived does ndeed reflect a true characteristic about ur nature b cause u r unwilling/unable 2 c it.

Eye never said u must change the way u r, but eye do say u have a responsibility 2 urself 2 understand y u r CONstantly b ing perceived n a certain light.

Y do people pay $$$$$ 2 have the way they r perceived managed?

peace

Anji said:

We're talking people here, not corporations. A corporation strives to change both its contents and its form to optimize its earnings. It is its whole purpose. It's sliiiightly more complex when it comes to people, at least when it comes to most people.

retina said:

I agree with this. We don't all get along in real life so why should we expect to do so here? If you're someone who's constantly misunderstood, however, at some point you have to look at yourself and decide whether the point you're wishing to make is actually coming across in the way you originally meant it to.

I've thought about this topic a lot and decided I look at it this way:

I'm funny, but most people on this site are American.

tackam said:

Actually it's self-centered to think that it's up to everyone in the world to see you exactly the way you see yourself (especially when people who have such a fixed "self-vision" are usually massive egoists) and lazy to be unwilling to present yoursef in a way that gets that across. Nobody owes you anything.

I think that I am someone who "gets" humor and for the most part "gets" people. And one thing that I "get" about humor is that it's not ONE thing, the way you're implying. It's a form of communication like any other. Humor can be kind, it can be hurtful or passive-aggressive, it can be bourne from insecurity, it can be the way the intelligence works at times, it can be lazy at others, whatever...if people aren't getting your humor or taking it the way you think would be best for your "public persona," it's because you don't care whether they do or not. Or it's because you want them not to get it to prove how humorless they are and how misunderstood you are.

I don't dismiss people for having made one bad joke or even for having attacked me one or a few times etc. Also, I NEVER said that by not "getting" someone that they were therefore one thing ("insensitive/dumb/inappropriate/bitch" etc ); I said that in that case the miscommunication was their fault. The rest of the world is not responbsible for how we present ourselves, we are.

It's hard because it's important and neccessary.

But thanks for calling me lazy.

2the9s said:

Far better put than my feeble effort. Again, I see the world in the same way you do ... which is slightly worrying

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