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Printablebillyjackbitch said: I can't really say which one I find worse than the other. I cannot be around people who do either of the two. Add "superficial" to this little list and you won't see me around anymore!
 
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fuck both
if you don't have the balls to live by your convictions and say what you really feel and think..... why bother saying anything or doing anything it's pointless. | |
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lollyp0p said: fuck both
That is the type of attitude I like to hear. Beautiful. | |
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jerseykrs said: lollyp0p said: fuck both
That is the type of attitude I like to hear. Beautiful. 
hey honey hope you are doing well  | |
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if you come clean in the beginning about who you are it can be tolerated, but when u act one way that is not who you are?... its a total waste of time.i mean truth be told im many things, contradicting,etc.etc. but never have i been a hypocrite.( lets see how much shit i get for that statement) | |
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lollyp0p said: jerseykrs said: That is the type of attitude I like to hear. Beautiful.
hey honey hope you are doing well Always!! | |
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We're all hypocrites, but it's our intentions that count. Insincerity is knowing and negative, but hypocrisy is often unwitting. For example, I would applaud anyone who is always sincere in their words and actions, and could certainly forgive them if on occasion they couldn't live up to their words despite having sincere and positive intentions. This is, in my mind, a forgivable and somewhat inherent human failing, while insincerity is a cold and calculated character flaw. | |
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Fauxie said: We're all hypocrites, but it's our intentions that count. Insincerity is knowing and negative, but hypocrisy is often unwitting. For example, I would applaud anyone who is always sincere in their words and actions, and could certainly forgive them if on occasion they couldn't live up to their words despite having sincere and positive intentions. This is, in my mind, a forgivable and somewhat inherent human failing, while insincerity is a cold and calculated character flaw.
OMG so well said and so true! | |
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i've been thinking about this thread alot. crazy. anyways i think that both are on the same level. i think that insincerity is just a prelude to hypocrisy | |
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Fauxie said: We're all hypocrites, but it's our intentions that count. Insincerity is knowing and negative, but hypocrisy is often unwitting. For example, I would applaud anyone who is always sincere in their words and actions, and could certainly forgive them if on occasion they couldn't live up to their words despite having sincere and positive intentions. This is, in my mind, a forgivable and somewhat inherent human failing, while insincerity is a cold and calculated character flaw.
While I agree, I also think we need to take into consideration the damage hypocrisy causes by either diminishing the Life philosophy being espoused, or diminishing the position of the person doing the espousing. Hypocrisy weakens their moral authority, and gives validity to the idea that codes of conduct and issues of character are unnecessary because they are impossible to live by. Insincerity hurts more on a personal level... | |
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Byron said: Fauxie said: We're all hypocrites, but it's our intentions that count. Insincerity is knowing and negative, but hypocrisy is often unwitting. For example, I would applaud anyone who is always sincere in their words and actions, and could certainly forgive them if on occasion they couldn't live up to their words despite having sincere and positive intentions. This is, in my mind, a forgivable and somewhat inherent human failing, while insincerity is a cold and calculated character flaw.
While I agree, I also think we need to take into consideration the damage hypocrisy causes by either diminishing the Life philosophy being espoused, or diminishing the position of the person doing the espousing. Hypocrisy weakens their moral authority, and gives validity to the idea that codes of conduct and issues of character are unnecessary because they are impossible to live by. Insincerity hurts more on a personal level... True. Of course, if someone is repeatedly shown to be a hypocrite then you would have to doubt their intentions in the first place, which is where the sincerity ties in. We can all fail to live up to our word sometimes, despite having sincere intentions, but if someone does this time and time again you'd have to wonder about the nature of their intentions. You make some very good points about the seriousness and lasting effects of hypocrisy, Byron. | |
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Fauxie said: Byron said: While I agree, I also think we need to take into consideration the damage hypocrisy causes by either diminishing the Life philosophy being espoused, or diminishing the position of the person doing the espousing. Hypocrisy weakens their moral authority, and gives validity to the idea that codes of conduct and issues of character are unnecessary because they are impossible to live by. Insincerity hurts more on a personal level... True. Of course, if someone is repeatedly shown to be a hypocrite then you would have to doubt their intentions in the first place, which is where the sincerity ties in. We can all fail to live up to our word sometimes, despite having sincere intentions, but if someone does this time and time again you'd have to wonder about the nature of their intentions. You make some very good points about the seriousness and lasting effects of hypocrisy, Byron. Thank you, kind sir...
I guess I was taking these two issues from a detached point of view moreso than a personal one. When I stop to think of either of these two traits being present within a friend or lover, then insincerity does indeed trump hypocrisy, because insincerity causes the heart pain and the mind confusion...while hypocrisy can be minimized to being merely an irritation. A hypocrite who you know loves you and shows it...is preferrable to a friend or lover who always lives by their life philosophy, but whose emotional honesty when it comes to you can't be relied upon.  | |
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Byron said:Insincerity...or hypocrisy?? to me they are one in the same... being a equal "worse"
Which would you find worse in another person... That their words are insincere...? Or that their actions don't match their words...? again ... it is pretty equal in my perception Two sides of the same coin, I suppose...with one being purposeful, and the other being oblivious... Which would you find to be a worse trait in another??... 
what may make it seem worse ... or that we notice such things is it is a reflection on parts of ourselves i have never met a person that at some point in their lives wasnt one of these things ... | |
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Anxiety said: Byron said: I think it depends on what ways you're "going against things" you've said and done in the past...as well as how soon you do so. If a year ago someone says and does something different than they are now, you can logically explain the difference as a simple passage of time. If, however, their desire to "maintain honesty" has them doing and saying something different three days later, then I think you have a valid reason for questioning their sincerity (either now or three days ago), as well as if they're being hypocritical or not... I understand what you mean, though..
[Edited 6/3/05 18:14pm] well, i guess what i mean in a more generic sense is, hypocrisy can creep up on a person, whereas a person tends to know when s/he is being insincere. it doesn't make hypocrisy any more virtuous, but i do think that it's often unavoidable, and those who acknowledge it are definitely at an advantage over those who won't. Insincerity is calculated whereas I think that hypocrisy just kinda happens befor you even realise it. I know I have made comments before and just as they were coming out of my mouth I thought to myself "you bloody hypocrite!!!!!"[Edited 6/6/05 8:07am] I'll leave graffiti where you've never been kissed | |
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Just to be a little clearer...
The two traits I described, were meant to be seen as continuous in another person...something that another does over and over again, becoming a pattern, a character trait. I know we all veer off the road from time to time, or stray into one of these two areas without knowing it...but to actually label someone as "hypocrite" or "insincere" speaks to more than the occasional lapse of character...it speaks to a trait they give evidence to possessing with undeniable regularity. Ok, carry on...lol | |
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Byron said: Just to be a little clearer...
The two traits I described, were meant to be seen as continuous in another person...something that another does over and over again, becoming a pattern, a character trait. I know we all veer off the road from time to time, or stray into one of these two areas without knowing it...but to actually label someone as "hypocrite" or "insincere" speaks to more than the occasional lapse of character...it speaks to a trait they give evidence to possessing with undeniable regularity. Ok, carry on...lol right now.... i am dealing with a friend of many many yrs that is exactly BOTH those things ...
it is very hard and i have always been very forgiving and accepting i am just having a hard time anymore sharing my energy with people like this... or very negitive people... or energetic vamps ... . [Edited 6/6/05 8:25am] | |
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PiscesGlenn said: billyjackbitch said: I can't really say which one I find worse than the other. I cannot be around people who do either of the two. Add "superficial" to this little list and you won't see me around anymore!
PERFECT answer...I wish I had wrote it...but it does express my sentiments ...exactly! Thanks Billy... Well, thank YOU for that nice remark and you're welcome of course  | |
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