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PrintableNero said: AzureStarr said: Yes, and I've been insincere in my life as well. And so have I. So saying I dislike it in others is hypocritical. 
Though I try my best not to be insincere. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. N. even compliments me on that one. THAT EEDEEOT. I hope Kerie bites his fucking penis off. You're reminding me of Byron in a way... lol. 
Nah, don't hope that. She'd be too close.
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Steadwood said: Byron said: Couldn't agree more...  I know we all have our moments where we veer from the road...but when I start to, I correct myself as quickly as possible..and I admit to myself that I have. Too much energy and time is spent convincing ourselves that we really weren't, that it was "ok"...  Very true...though I get frustrated with myself when I realise.. 
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Byron said: Steadwood said: Very true...though I get frustrated with myself when I realise..
I do, too... (with myself, not with you..lol ) <-- (sincere laugh) 
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AzureStarr said: Nero said: And so have I. So saying I dislike it in others is hypocritical.
Though I try my best not to be insincere. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. N. even compliments me on that one. THAT EEDEEOT. I hope Kerie bites his fucking penis off. You're reminding me of Byron in a way... lol.
Nah, don't hope that. She'd be too close.
. [Edited 6/3/05 18:21pm] You know they're fucking like Mormons any way. Insatiable taught me everything I know about balls.
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Anxiety said: Byron said: I think it depends on what ways you're "going against things" you've said and done in the past...as well as how soon you do so. If a year ago someone says and does something different than they are now, you can logically explain the difference as a simple passage of time. If, however, their desire to "maintain honesty" has them doing and saying something different three days later, then I think you have a valid reason for questioning their sincerity (either now or three days ago), as well as if they're being hypocritical or not... I understand what you mean, though..
[Edited 6/3/05 18:14pm] well, i guess what i mean in a more generic sense is, hypocrisy can creep up on a person, whereas a person tends to know when s/he is being insincere. it doesn't make hypocrisy any more virtuous, but i do think that it's often unavoidable, and those who acknowledge it are definitely at an advantage over those who won't. I guess that's part of my thinking...that someone who's insincere will be more likely to acknowledge that they weren't being sincere...than someone who's hypocritical. the insincere person knows they are, and it's just a matter of character if they own up to it once it's been mentioned...as where the hypocrite continues to live in denial...they're experts at rationalizing their own inconsistent behavior. [Edited 6/3/05 18:27pm] | |
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AzureStarr said: Nero said: And so have I. So saying I dislike it in others is hypocritical.
Though I try my best not to be insincere. I say what I mean, and I mean what I say. N. even compliments me on that one. THAT EEDEEOT. I hope Kerie bites his fucking penis off. You're reminding me of Byron in a way... lol.
Nah, don't hope that. She'd be too close.
. [Edited 6/3/05 18:21pm] In what way?? lol...  | |
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Byron said: AzureStarr said: You're reminding me of Byron in a way... lol.
Nah, don't hope that. She'd be too close.
. [Edited 6/3/05 18:21pm] In what way?? lol... CET. That sort of way. | |
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AzureStarr said: Byron said: In what way?? lol... CET. That sort of way. CET lite, perhaps..lol | |
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Insincere
Oh I Think I'd Better Go No Don't See Me To The Door You Kiss My Mouth You Touch My Hair Acting Like You Care But You're So Insincere It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Oh I Know You Are A Fake Yeah I See You're On The Take Guess I Was Weak It Worked For A While Every Time You Smiled You're So Insincere But It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Your Heart Is A Gravity Well It Drew Me In I Fell You're So Insincere Oh Oh You Whisper Low And Stroke My Hand But We Both Understand That¡ You're So Insincere But It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Your Heart Is A Gravity Well It Drew Me In I Fell You're So Insincere Oh Oh Have A Nice Life | |
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Byron said: AzureStarr said: CET. That sort of way. CET lite, perhaps..lol That's not very nice. Insatiable taught me everything I know about balls.
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Chico319 said: Insincere
Oh I Think I'd Better Go No Don't See Me To The Door You Kiss My Mouth You Touch My Hair Acting Like You Care But You're So Insincere It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Oh I Know You Are A Fake Yeah I See You're On The Take Guess I Was Weak It Worked For A While Every Time You Smiled You're So Insincere But It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Your Heart Is A Gravity Well It Drew Me In I Fell You're So Insincere Oh Oh You Whisper Low And Stroke My Hand But We Both Understand That¡ You're So Insincere But It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Your Heart Is A Gravity Well It Drew Me In I Fell You're So Insincere Oh Oh Have A Nice Life  | |
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Nero said: Byron said: CET lite, perhaps..lol That's not very nice. You're not nearly frustrating or energy-draining enough to have full-blown CET status yet..lol  | |
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Byron said: Chico319 said: Insincere
Oh I Think I'd Better Go No Don't See Me To The Door You Kiss My Mouth You Touch My Hair Acting Like You Care But You're So Insincere It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Oh I Know You Are A Fake Yeah I See You're On The Take Guess I Was Weak It Worked For A While Every Time You Smiled You're So Insincere But It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Your Heart Is A Gravity Well It Drew Me In I Fell You're So Insincere Oh Oh You Whisper Low And Stroke My Hand But We Both Understand That¡ You're So Insincere But It Never Ever Changes Anything It's Obvious And Clear That What We Mean Is Nothing Your Heart Is A Gravity Well It Drew Me In I Fell You're So Insincere Oh Oh Have A Nice Life
well i can't take credit for that. it's a song by the Go~Go's. great lyrics. i think they're both equally bad.  | |
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Byron said: Nero said: That's not very nice. You're not nearly frustrating or energy-draining enough to have full-blown CET status yet..lol Yes, and I didn't feel like strangling her to stop, either! | |
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Chico319 said: Byron said:
well i can't take credit for that. it's a song by the Go~Go's. great lyrics. i think they're both equally bad. The lyrics are definitely good...and the "Have a nice life" ending is pretty profound. It sums up the effects of insincerity rather well.. *sigh* | |
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AzureStarr said: Byron said: You're not nearly frustrating or energy-draining enough to have full-blown CET status yet..lol Yes, and I didn't feel like strangling her to stop, either! HEATHER! My man-thing is FUCKING right now, and he's being a hypocrite, AND the things he says are insincere. Which part of THAT shit is worse? Insatiable taught me everything I know about balls.
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AzureStarr said: Byron said: You're not nearly frustrating or energy-draining enough to have full-blown CET status yet..lol Yes, and I didn't feel like strangling her to stop, either! Exactly... ..."CET Lite: All the taste, only 1/3rd the irritation" | |
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Nero said: AzureStarr said: Yes, and I didn't feel like strangling her to stop, either! HEATHER! My man-thing is FUCKING right now, and he's being a hypocrite, AND the things he says are insincere. Which part of THAT shit is worse? The worst part, to be honest with you, is that being on a friendly basis with him, talking to him, seeing him, and knowing what is happening now (I'm not talking about sex, you don't know) isn't helping you move past this. Until that happens, you're going to be driven on an emotional roller coaster ride until you stop it and get off. Love him, care about him, miss him. But you have to allow yourself time to get over him. Then, and only then, be friends. | |
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AzureStarr said: Nero said: HEATHER! My man-thing is FUCKING right now, and he's being a hypocrite, AND the things he says are insincere. Which part of THAT shit is worse? The worst part, to be honest with you, is that being on a friendly basis with him, talking to him, seeing him, and knowing what is happening now (I'm not talking about sex, you don't know) isn't helping you move past this. Until that happens, you're going to be driven on an emotional roller coaster ride until you stop it and get off. Love him, care about him, miss him. But you have to allow yourself time to get over him. Then, and only then, be friends. Does that have anything to do with being either insincere or a hypocrite, tho??...  (obviously I don't know the details..lol) | |
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AzureStarr said: Nero said: HEATHER! My man-thing is FUCKING right now, and he's being a hypocrite, AND the things he says are insincere. Which part of THAT shit is worse? The worst part, to be honest with you, is that being on a friendly basis with him, talking to him, seeing him, and knowing what is happening now (I'm not talking about sex, you don't know) isn't helping you move past this. Until that happens, you're going to be driven on an emotional roller coaster ride until you stop it and get off. Love him, care about him, miss him. But you have to allow yourself time to get over him. Then, and only then, be friends. How about I just kill him? "I wrote down a dream, folded the note, slipped it in the pocket of my tattered coat, I wrote down a dream, in invisible ink, it never was mine I'm beginning to think..." | |
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Byron said: AzureStarr said: The worst part, to be honest with you, is that being on a friendly basis with him, talking to him, seeing him, and knowing what is happening now (I'm not talking about sex, you don't know) isn't helping you move past this. Until that happens, you're going to be driven on an emotional roller coaster ride until you stop it and get off. Love him, care about him, miss him. But you have to allow yourself time to get over him. Then, and only then, be friends. Does that have anything to do with being either insincere or a hypocrite, tho??... (obviously I don't know the details..lol)"I'm not one for casual sex." "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have." All these things said from him to me. I think it has everything to do with being both. "I wrote down a dream, folded the note, slipped it in the pocket of my tattered coat, I wrote down a dream, in invisible ink, it never was mine I'm beginning to think..." | |
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Byron said: Anxiety said: well, i guess what i mean in a more generic sense is, hypocrisy can creep up on a person, whereas a person tends to know when s/he is being insincere. it doesn't make hypocrisy any more virtuous, but i do think that it's often unavoidable, and those who acknowledge it are definitely at an advantage over those who won't. I guess that's part of my thinking...that someone who's insincere will be more likely to acknowledge that they weren't being sincere...than someone who's hypocritical. the insincere person knows they are, and it's just a matter of character if they own up to it once it's been mentioned...as where the hypocrite continues to live in denial...they're experts at rationalizing their own inconsistent behavior. [Edited 6/3/05 18:27pm] isn't hypocrisy something that doesn't really exist until it's identified as such? if someone is being hypocritical and decides to live with that without reconciling it, i'd consider that insincerity on top of hypocrisy, no? | |
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Anxiety said: Byron said: I guess that's part of my thinking...that someone who's insincere will be more likely to acknowledge that they weren't being sincere...than someone who's hypocritical. the insincere person knows they are, and it's just a matter of character if they own up to it once it's been mentioned...as where the hypocrite continues to live in denial...they're experts at rationalizing their own inconsistent behavior. [Edited 6/3/05 18:27pm] isn't hypocrisy something that doesn't really exist until it's identified as such? if someone is being hypocritical and decides to live with that without reconciling it, i'd consider that insincerity on top of hypocrisy, no? Hypocricy is when your actions don't match your words...Insincerity is when you don't mean the words you say. So I could act in a way that would indicate that I mean my words...and though it would mean that my actions are insincere as well as my words, I'm not being hypocritical. | |
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Caligula said: Byron said: Does that have anything to do with being either insincere or a hypocrite, tho??... (obviously I don't know the details..lol)"I'm not one for casual sex." "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have." All these things said from him to me. I think it has everything to do with being both. If someone tells you "I'm not one for casual sex"...then goes out and has casual sex a week and a half later...they're a hypocrite. If someone tells you "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have"...but doesn't care if their actions hurt you or not...then they're being insincere. So yeah...it has everything to do with both..  | |
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Byron said: Caligula said: "I'm not one for casual sex." "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have." All these things said from him to me. I think it has everything to do with being both. If someone tells you "I'm not one for casual sex"...then goes out and has casual sex a week and a half later...they're a hypocrite. If someone tells you "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have"...but doesn't care if their actions hurt you or not...then they're being insincere. So yeah...it has everything to do with both.. | |
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Byron said: Caligula said: "I'm not one for casual sex." "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have." All these things said from him to me. I think it has everything to do with being both. If someone tells you "I'm not one for casual sex"...then goes out and has casual sex a week and a half later...they're a hypocrite. If someone tells you "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have"...but doesn't care if their actions hurt you or not...then they're being insincere. So yeah...it has everything to do with both.. Write that down and read it daily. | |
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brownsugar said: Byron said: If someone tells you "I'm not one for casual sex"...then goes out and has casual sex a week and a half later...they're a hypocrite. If someone tells you "I don't want to hurt you any more than I already have"...but doesn't care if their actions hurt you or not...then they're being insincere. So yeah...it has everything to do with both.. Do you know how easy it is...to make decisions in your life which take into account how someone else may be effected...especially if that "someone else" is someone you used to be intimately involved with??...It's damn easy. You can't cause that person to avoid pain or hurt in their heart completely...but that fact shouldn't keep you from placing value on all the ways in which you show them, their feelings, and the relationship you lived together respect. It's not hard...  | |
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Byron said: brownsugar said: Do you know how easy it is...to make decisions in your life which take into account how someone else may be effected...especially if that "someone else" is someone you used to be intimately involved with??...It's damn easy. You can't cause that person to avoid pain or hurt in their heart completely...but that fact shouldn't keep you from placing value on all the ways in which you show them, their feelings, and the relationship you lived together respect. It's not hard... Yeah. And now I must kill him.  "I wrote down a dream, folded the note, slipped it in the pocket of my tattered coat, I wrote down a dream, in invisible ink, it never was mine I'm beginning to think..." | |
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I can't really say which one I find worse than the other. I cannot be around people who do either of the two. Add "superficial" to this little list and you won't see me around anymore! | |
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billyjackbitch said: I can't really say which one I find worse than the other. I cannot be around people who do either of the two. Add "superficial" to this little list and you won't see me around anymore!
PERFECT answer...I wish I had wrote it...but it does express my sentiments ...exactly! Thanks Billy... "We love you from the bottom of our hearts to the top of our souls...thank you!" Prince ~ Musicology Tour ~ Denver 8/2004 | |
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